Mystery Maniacs

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Sarah
Oh.

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Mark
By the way, that's the sound they started the episode.

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Sarah
Hey, maniacs.

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Mark
Hey, maniacs. We're back.

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Sarah
We're back. We took a week off.

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Mark
I was under the weather.

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Sarah
But you're above the weather now.

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Mark
Yes, I'm above the weather now.

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Sarah
Your Uber weather.

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Mark
Mystery Maniacs is a comedy recap podcast dedicated to mystery TV. Each week we dig into an episode of the show, including murders, mayhem and loonies and everything else we love. This Week Murdoch Mysteries Episode seven Season one Body Double. I Am Mark.

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Sarah
I'm Sarah. Is there a movie called Body Double?

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Mark
Yes, there is.

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Sarah
It's really different than.

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Mark
Oh by yes.

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Sarah
Like it's sexy, isn't it?

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Mark
Yeah, it is actually. In in strangely and in the things that I know, it's a Brian De Palma movie and it has Frankie goes to Hollywood in it, first of all, which is weird.

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Sarah
Like the band is in the movie.

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Mark
Yes. They filmed the video for the video for the song while they're filming.

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Sarah
Okay. I have to tell you guys, you're listening to this. This is not in our notes. I just happened to the top of my head. Remember this? So Mark is doing all this out of his brain. He's not reading this from notes. Wow.

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Mark
Okay, well, I know easily 20 minutes on this movie.

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Sarah
Okay, Let's not go there. So one thing funny that happened while we were on our break is that new episodes of Murdoch released on ACORN. Yes. So we're and we're not going to talk about the plots or anything. No meaning away. But we're watching them and like, man, everybody looks really old, like wrinkled and shriveled.

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Mark
And like George, George has the the wrinkles around his eyes.

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Sarah
Yeah, he's got crow's feet.

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Mark
He's got crab.

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Sarah
Feet. And I'm like, why does everybody I'm fat? Is it filmed in like seven K? So we can see more detail than we know. And then we both realize it's because we've been watching the season one episode where everybody's young and spry. So yeah, of course. Yeah. 17 seasons later they look a little older.

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Mark
I have changed in 17 years.

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Sarah
But until we thought of that, I was. Why does everybody look so ancient, though?

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Mark
I would say that Helene and Joy looks pretty much the exact same.

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Sarah
Yeah. Yeah. She. Her face changed just a little bit because she was pregnant. Yeah, but then now, I mean, she looks great. It's not fair. If anything, Murdoch. His eyelashes got longer. I don't know how that's possible. Yeah, it's still not fair. But anyhow.

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Mark
And then we have my brother sending me texts about this. The season that we just started watching the season finales, because in Canada, you've got to get your shows done now because hockey playoffs are.

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Sarah
Coming, right?

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Mark
Because you guys get the show's guys.

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Sarah
Access to episodes we can't see. Yeah, I cannot. Dave, don't tell us anything. I know you're listening. Speaking of listening.

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Mark
If you let your kids go to the theater and see bodies fall to the ceiling.

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Sarah
They can handle this episode of Murdoch and this podcast. Yes, something that we keep forgetting to mention for.

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Mark
New.

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Sarah
Listeners. We know that there are some folks who started listening when we started covering Murdoch and you may not know after the music at the end of the episode.

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Mark
So we do two things before the episode starts. We usually have some funny out of context, usually sound, and then then the music plays and then we introduce the episode like we have right now. But then after the theme music plays, at the end of the episode, we buddy right after that.

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Sarah
You always put it in some funny outtake. At the very end of Yeah.

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Mark
Barry and I put some funny out sometimes it's 2 seconds. Yeah, but sometimes it's much longer.

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Sarah
And I always just think if you're a listener, like I'm a listener to a podcast, they're somewhere I kind of know when they're starting to wrap up and they're going to just talk about Patreon or something or other, and I just stop the podcast and go on to something else. And I there was one in particular I realized I missed a bunch of funny stuff at the end of the episode every time.

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Sarah
Yeah, but I didn't even know that until I just happened to have my hands full and not be able to just skip. And so I didn't didn't stop it. And I heard it. Oh my gosh, I have to go back now and listen to the end of all these episodes because it's so funny. I don't know if I was always so funny, but you do a pretty good job finding something good.

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Mark
We've also had listeners occasionally ask us if we have outtakes. I have hours of outtakes.

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Sarah
So many for.

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Mark
This show, because if it's anything longer than half a second, I save it in an outtake file usually.

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Sarah
Oh, that's good to know.

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Mark
It's not a mouse noise. Try to get rid of as much noise as possible because I don't want to hear.

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Sarah
I don't think I ever want to hear this outtake file.

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Mark
No.

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Sarah
It'd be embarrassing, I think. Oh, would be all and be you and me just being stupid about stuff.

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Mark
Well, it's all out of context and all out of order, Right? So. So it's all.

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Sarah
Those times when we're like, Wait a minute. Okay, That sounded really dumb. We got to scrap all of that. Let's start that over again and not be stupid about it. Yeah, okay.

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Mark
Do you have a dream that there is a child with an audio project this summer where I give them access to all the outtake files and say, Make us a crazy episode?

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Sarah
That would be funny. Speaking of funny, yes. Body double.

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Mark
Body double.

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Sarah
I love this episode. It's funny.

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Mark
This is this. This is the first Murdoch EP, but.

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Sarah
You keep saying that this is quintessential Murdoch.

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Mark
This is this is funny and silly. And over the top and crazy and yet serious and goofy and fun and all that. All those things, like the dentist park is just perfect.

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Sarah
Well, let's get into.

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Mark
Okay so this was the original air date of this show is the 2nd of March 2008.

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Sarah
Back in the old.

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Mark
Days, in the old days, directed by Sean Thompson and written by RB Carney.

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Sarah
This episode has a really small cast. It does. Other than the regulars. There's really only five people.

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Mark
I get to see. And I know you think I say this about every every episode, but this is tight, this episode.

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Sarah
Oh, yeah, it moves.

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Mark
It hustles.

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Sarah
Along. Yeah. The only thing that sort of drags a little bit is Barack and Reid being all sweet on Stella. It's like, Yeah, okay, we know you like her. Okay, Come on, come on, come on, come on. Can somebody else die already or something? One of my complaints about Murdoch, because I'm a midsummer fan, is the body count is just too low.

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Mark
Sometimes it gets better later on.

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Sarah
They kill more people later. But in the first season, they kind of limit it to one person in episode in most.

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Mark
Come on, kill some are big on bodies.

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Sarah
How can we do best corpse if there's only one corpse come off this time? We do have two.

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Mark
Yes, we do.

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Sarah
Yes, yes. Do we don't know that we have to right off the bat?

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Mark
No, we.

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Sarah
Don't. But we find out. We have.

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Mark
To. We do. We do. But first, the kinetic scope.

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Sarah
Yes.

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Mark
Okay, So.

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Sarah
You're going to nerd out on us and.

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Mark
Then nerd out on you. There's no way that Murdoch could have had this.

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Sarah
My my only thought is that since he has connections to Edison, that maybe he was able to borrow one because.

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Mark
He has those connections yet.

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Sarah
Well, we've already had Tesla. Right. So but this the kinetic scope in the in the 1895 money would have cost him over a year salary.

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Mark
Oh. Way more than that. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. So there were kinetic scopes in Los Angeles, Chicago and New York City at this point.

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Sarah
That's it.

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Mark
Basically, like the closest one would have been New York City. And they're watching the sneeze, which is an 1894 short film.

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Sarah
5 seconds. It's 5 seconds. It's not 10 seconds. It's only five.

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Mark
Seconds.

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Sarah
It's very short of a man sneezing.

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Mark
William Dixon, who was the British guy who was really the engineer that helped Edison build the camera, filmed this, and the guy's name was Fred Art. And he uses some snuff and.

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Sarah
Fred Art. Is this Neser?

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Mark
Yes. Fred.

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Sarah
This his only.

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Mark
Role? No, he's.

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Sarah
He's in a vaudeville guy.

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Mark
No, no, he's he was a guy who worked at the factory Edison factory.

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Sarah
But he could sneeze.

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Mark
He could sneeze. He's in another one where he I think he puts on a coat or something very short.

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Sarah
So exciting.

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Mark
This is the oldest surviving motion picture without a copyright. Wow. Which is why I'm surprised they don't show it.

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Sarah
They shoot, they show some of it. They show more of it than they would anything else if it was copyrighted. Yeah. So I went looking first of all, I went looking to see how much it would have cost if he had purchased one and found out how expensive it was. But in the same ads where I found the cost, I also found a list of the Edison Company films that were going to be released soon.

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Mark
So there's about 60 of these films that Edison put in kinetic scopes that involve everything from people walking to there's a troop of indigenous Americans doing what's called a ghost dance, which is striking to see.

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Sarah
So those are more documentary style. Yes, these are more fiction. Yes. The list that I found.

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Mark
Now, I'm not going to get into the whole fact that he stole this entire idea and everything here from the Lumiere brothers were skipping over that.

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Sarah
But we'll get to that. Okay. If we do other seasons of Murdoch.

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Mark
Yes, we will.

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Sarah
Yeah. So on the list that I found, I just want to give you a couple highlights.

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Mark
Okay?

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Sarah
There's one called The Artist and the Brain Specialist. I read the synopsis of this because it's on IMDB. The synopsis, it's quite complicated.

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Mark
They do a lot with very little time.

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Sarah
It's only a thousand feet long. Yeah, because that's how they list it. Despite how many feet the movie is now, one.

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Mark
In four frames per second on this would be 16 millimeter film.

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Sarah
I think so. 24 frames a second. Yeah. How many frames of foot?

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Mark
I don't know. This got metric.

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Sarah
And we're not going to try to do the math anyway. So there's the sunset gun.

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Mark
Oh.

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Sarah
Yeah, definitely a western. Yeah, a western. A Prince Charming. That's comedy, drama.

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Mark
Fancy.

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Sarah
But the one I'm most curious about and couldn't find anything about is called Jim's wife. Jim's wife? Yes. It's 1000 feet and it's drama. Jim's Jim's wife.

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Mark
I don't know what those. So these.

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Sarah
Are all. She must be notorious. Yeah.

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Mark
So these are also all filmed in this weird, interesting thing called the black Mariah.

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Sarah
So in women, are they called old police wagons?

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Mark
Yes. So in West Orange, where Edison had his factory, he had this thing called the black Mariah, which was partially a police wagon, partially a railway, partially. It's really the first movie studio. It is a long, rectangular building that is on a pivot at one end. And at the other end are the rails and the wheels from a train.

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Mark
So you could turn the building around.

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Sarah
Oh.

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Mark
Because they had a big window at one end because they have no electric light at this.

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Sarah
Right. They need natural.

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Mark
Light. So they need as much natural light as possible. So they would push it to where the sun.

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Sarah
So it's like a giant sun.

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Mark
It's a giant sundial. It still exists. It's a national monument.

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Sarah
That's a main.

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Mark
Monument in West Orange. It's right on the main street of West Orange.

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Sarah
But you had to push it.

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Mark
You had to actually push it.

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Sarah
Go all the way around. Or was it just 180?

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Mark
It was like 350. The track wasn't connected at at one. Oh.

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Sarah
So fine.

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Mark
Push it one way. And if you wanted to go back the other way all the way, why didn't.

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Sarah
They just push the last ten degrees and they didn't have to push it all the way back. I don't know that. Stone It's.

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Mark
It's one of those things that I do want to see.

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Sarah
It. Yeah. You'll be able to tell what time it was just by looking where it was.

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Mark
Mirror I was the first motion picture studio ever made.

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Sarah
Was a moving one. Yes. That's incredible.

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Mark
That is one of the greatest American inventions.

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Sarah
Well, Bracken Reed's not having any of it. He can't believe people are wasting their time watching 10 seconds, 5 seconds of somebody sneezing when they could be going to see Shakespeare.

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Mark
Yes.

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Sarah
Wearing their cape white tie and cane.

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Mark
And Troy. Is he a fancy man?

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Sarah
He is. I don't know why Margaret's not going with him. Maybe she just doesn't like Shakespeare or something. Maybe they can't get a babysitter. But he certainly has an opera outfit.

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Mark
And he has quite the opera glasses.

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Sarah
Theater outfit. It's quite the cape.

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Mark
They go through. The first part is they're doing a scene and something drips on the actor's.

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Sarah
Face before he even gets in there. First of all, they have that horrible illustration of the front of the opera theater, what he was up to. I don't know why they even don't even include it. Yeah, we can see he's in the theater when he's in the lobby and everybody's dressed up. You don't need that outside scene or.

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Sarah
Look, I'm on a picture. I'm looking.

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Mark
Oh, skip it. If there wasn't a dozen really gorgeous theaters in Toronto.

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Sarah
That they could have found and they.

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Mark
Could have filmed in front of.

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Sarah
Yeah. Instead, they've got miniature Bracken Reed walking in front of an old colorized photo room looking up at the light. Wow. Look at those lights. Yes. So the water.

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Mark
Water?

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Sarah
Well, no, there is a water leak. Yes. And there's a.

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Mark
Party lead actor. Bless me, Goose.

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Sarah
You know.

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Mark
You needs to look at the camera and go. He slimes.

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Sarah
Me. Yeah. It's one thing if you think rainwater is dripping in your eye, but if you think it's body water, that's completely different.

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Mark
How many times would you have to shower?

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Sarah
I think I'd have to bleach my eyeball and God forbid it dripped on your face into your mouth or something like, Oh well. And rain water filtering through the roof and the attic and the gantries and everything else would not be good either, but it would be better than body water. But yeah, Arthur's trying to deliver his lines as Macbeth, and it's like Plank right in his face.

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Sarah
Oh point.

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Mark
One. So who knows what it is? It's like.

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Sarah
Oh, you know what they call it? What?

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Mark
IQR Decker, It's Ecker. It's that time stream.

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Sarah
Liquid from a body actor. Yeah.

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Mark
So then during the Lady Macbeth, big scene, the body falls blank. One of the reasons why this is a great episode is now Bracken Reed has to do something. He has to do it. He's like, Oh.

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Sarah
Of course there's a crime here because I'm enjoying myself. It's very much a Barnaby moment, like Busman's holiday every single day.

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Mark
Every.

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Sarah
Scene where he gets to whip out the Bracken Reed cop voice Yep.

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Mark
Nobody move, nobody move.

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Sarah
It's very much a soccer rest voice.

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Mark
It's something I do in my notes. I have a pretty good dead body.

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Sarah
Yeah, it's a pretty good skeleton wrapped in some old clothes. Yep. It's corpse ified. Very well.

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Mark
Yes, I've most people thought it was part of the play. No, they didn't. No, no.

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Sarah
No, no. I mean, how dumb do you have to be? You don't even have to know Macbeth to know that when they act, the main actress screams and faints. That that's not part of this show, though. If they were smart, they would have worked it in, you know, like.

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Mark
But I did. I did. I did a da da da da da da da.

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Sarah
You close the curtain very slowly. I was looking into other strange interruptions to theater performances. So most of the time nowadays it's phones. Yeah, Actors are constantly irritated by phones. If it happens once, they kind of tolerate it. But I read stories of like, the same the same person's phone going off like six times. Oh, and sometimes the actors are just like enough and they walk off stage.

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Mark
Yeah, turn your phone off. I read something.

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Sarah
I read a story of a woman on stage realizing there was a mouse in her gown that was running around inside of her, inside of her big crinoline. And that was kind of freaky. She kept it together. Yes. To cut it together. That's.

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Mark
That's acting. Yes. Have you ever actually performed on stage?

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Sarah
Many, many, many times?

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Mark
No. In in a play. Have you done plays? No. I know you sang in.

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Sarah
Show.

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Mark
Show choir.

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Sarah
But I've been on stage a lot. But you not ever.

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Mark
Performed a role.

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Sarah
But not as an.

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Mark
Actor. I've only done it once and I played Death at a party and I thought, That's the pinnacle of what you can do.

00;17;44;26 - 00;17;46;10
Sarah
Where you dress up like the Grim Reaper.

00;17;46;10 - 00;17;48;28
Mark
Yes, it was. I played air guitar on my sitcom.

00;17;49;16 - 00;17;51;19
Sarah
Nice. Yeah. Sounds classy.

00;17;51;19 - 00;17;52;22
Mark
It was a funny play.

00;17;52;25 - 00;17;58;05
Sarah
Okay, so that's. I'm glad it was funny. Yes. Because if it had been serious and you did that, you probably ruined it.

00;17;58;18 - 00;18;01;26
Mark
I was a minor, minor bit character as death.

00;18;02;23 - 00;18;04;07
Sarah
So they're doing Macbeth.

00;18;04;10 - 00;18;15;14
Mark
The investigation boys gets here, and Bracken Reed does this weird. He has no penis. So how do you know he's a man? Well, first of all, he's got trousers on.

00;18;15;14 - 00;18;35;01
Sarah
Well, that's what Bracken Reed says. It must be a man. Look, he's got pants on. And Julie is smart enough to know the number one. You're in a theater. People wear costumes, so sometimes they wear things they wouldn't normally wear and number to ladies have legs and pants can go on them. Yes, but then she. Without gloves because she never has gloves because of the time they did nineties.

00;18;35;01 - 00;18;38;07
Sarah
They didn't have them yet. No. You she just like well all.

00;18;38;07 - 00;18;40;08
Mark
Jokes around in the Ike or.

00;18;40;08 - 00;18;44;06
Sarah
And just shoves her hand into a corpse crotch to see what's in.

00;18;44;06 - 00;18;46;11
Mark
Their hand in court scratch.

00;18;46;15 - 00;18;48;26
Sarah
He says well look at the hip bones.

00;18;48;27 - 00;18;49;25
Mark
Yeah the pelvis.

00;18;49;25 - 00;18;51;05
Sarah
You can tell from the pelvis the.

00;18;51;05 - 00;18;51;18
Mark
Pelvic.

00;18;51;18 - 00;18;59;07
Sarah
Girdle. I'm sorry. That pelvic girdle has a whole bunch of old skin mummified on it and nasty clothes. She's really just reaching for corpse crotch.

00;18;59;07 - 00;19;04;16
Mark
Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I think the lights that they used to go investigate the theater are pretty nice.

00;19;04;17 - 00;19;06;16
Sarah
Yeah. The lanterns they carry.

00;19;07;19 - 00;19;10;06
Mark
They totally, almost drop crap.

00;19;10;06 - 00;19;15;14
Sarah
Julia, would you not be terrified up there knowing the floor has rotted? And I used to once.

00;19;16;09 - 00;19;18;20
Mark
In my notes, I would not go in that room.

00;19;18;28 - 00;19;37;04
Sarah
I think I. I might if I was in their place. But I would be walking very gingerly. The light would be on the floor at all times. I would be like poking ahead of me with a stick. Murdock practically stands over the place where the water is leaking. Yeah, where it's clearly rotted out. And he can see the stage under him.

00;19;37;13 - 00;19;42;29
Sarah
You're going to die, dude. Yeah. And then they practically stand on where the body fell through to.

00;19;43;14 - 00;19;45;25
Mark
Almost drop stuff. Julian, They're like, Sure.

00;19;45;28 - 00;19;54;08
Sarah
Sorry. Sorry. I think it's nice that Bracken Reed just happens to find an ax two feet away from where I'm sitting that he can pry the floorboards up.

00;19;54;11 - 00;19;57;20
Mark
Yes. And the maid day off. This is a great show.

00;19;57;20 - 00;20;01;23
Sarah
Yeah, it's. Have you ever been up in the, like, the gantries of a theater?

00;20;01;23 - 00;20;03;10
Mark
Oh, yeah, I won't.

00;20;03;15 - 00;20;20;25
Sarah
I wouldn't. I wouldn't go up into the lighting gantry because that's death. Thank you. The catwalks and stuff. Yeah, but I would probably go up in this space because it's actually like a room with the floor and walls and stuff. As long as I could not see through the boards to see how high up I was. Oh, no.

00;20;20;29 - 00;20;34;18
Sarah
There be, there wouldn't be a corridor up and down. It'd be Brett if I look down. So they're doing Macbeth and Bracken Reed is immediately uptight about not saying Macbeth. Yes, right. You have to say the Scottish play.

00;20;34;21 - 00;20;52;23
Mark
So that is a theater ism, not a play. Not the text is right because Murdoch has been educated on Shakespeare by the Jesuits. But the Jesuits wouldn't have told them about theater tradition. So this works that that Murdoch's.

00;20;52;23 - 00;20;53;23
Sarah
Not theater people.

00;20;53;23 - 00;20;54;17
Mark
He's not theater.

00;20;54;17 - 00;20;56;22
Sarah
So he doesn't know about that superstition. Yes.

00;20;56;22 - 00;21;02;29
Mark
And all it gives a great sort of I don't like any superstitions except for the religious ones.

00;21;02;29 - 00;21;05;12
Sarah
I believe there is that.

00;21;05;13 - 00;21;05;24
Mark
Yeah.

00;21;06;06 - 00;21;27;01
Sarah
There's not really an agreed upon origin for that for where that superstition comes from. There's a lot of sort of anecdotal and then something really horrible happened and they happened to be performing Macbeth, including like Sir Laurence Olivier and all kinds of famous people who probably performed Macbeth hundreds of times in their career. And one time something bad happened.

00;21;27;01 - 00;21;44;21
Sarah
Yeah. So, you know, now it's come down as a story. But most recently, I don't know if you know this, but Chris Rock congratulated Denzel Washington on his performance and said Macbeth. And then a few minutes later, he got slapped. So. Well, it's the curse is alive. Can you make that connection?

00;21;44;29 - 00;21;50;04
Mark
Costumes and props may not be removed on authority of the master of props.

00;21;50;06 - 00;21;55;06
Sarah
Master of props. Master of props, Master of as I got props.

00;21;55;25 - 00;21;56;24
Mark
Vegan sleep, a.

00;21;56;28 - 00;22;01;18
Sarah
Little Metallica slip there. No, no vagrants slip up their.

00;22;01;21 - 00;22;06;09
Mark
Fingers get especially in this first season they're like, Oh, it was a vagrant.

00;22;06;23 - 00;22;15;22
Sarah
Yeah that's they they cause everything. It's them. It's their their fault. Do you know about other superstitions of the theater? Do you know of any other ones?

00;22;15;23 - 00;22;17;14
Mark
Not any of the dumb ahead.

00;22;17;24 - 00;22;18;24
Sarah
There's so many.

00;22;18;24 - 00;22;19;24
Mark
Yeah, there's so many.

00;22;19;24 - 00;22;20;25
Sarah
Obviously because.

00;22;20;26 - 00;22;22;10
Mark
Like limited theatrical.

00;22;22;15 - 00;22;27;24
Sarah
It's such a high stress environment, tension filled environment, you know.

00;22;27;25 - 00;22;29;12
Mark
Well, it's live. It's a lot.

00;22;29;13 - 00;22;46;14
Sarah
Yeah. So they have a lot of superstitions. Yeah. It used to be that it was bad luck to wear blue on stage, but that was just because blue was the most expensive fabric dye. And basically the people paying for stuff didn't want to buy blue fabrics. They said it was bad luck to wear blue.

00;22;46;14 - 00;22;55;11
Mark
And I know so much of the traditions and language come out of that sort of early 20th century Gilbert and Sullivan kind of time period.

00;22;55;11 - 00;23;06;14
Sarah
Yeah, I mean, some of them go much further back than that, but a lot of them originate in that time period. But the vaudevillian kind of theater, like, do you know why it's bad luck to have a mirror on stage?

00;23;06;22 - 00;23;10;27
Mark
No. Well, other than you could see something you're not supposed to see.

00;23;11;11 - 00;23;12;02
Sarah
What do you mean?

00;23;12;05 - 00;23;14;14
Mark
Like you could see the audience, for instance.

00;23;14;16 - 00;23;27;05
Sarah
Oh, like, it might reflect something that that's kind of the in reality, it's because it causes lighting issues. And it could blind a performer if the like a spotlight hit it, Yeah, it can blind them and then they could fall off the stage or something.

00;23;27;05 - 00;23;31;10
Mark
Yeah. At this point in time, all the lights are probably candles or gas.

00;23;31;12 - 00;23;38;13
Sarah
You think that. But when they show the footlights in front of the stage, when Murdoch is kind of doing the denouement at the end, they're bulbs.

00;23;38;16 - 00;23;39;14
Mark
They're bulbs. Yeah.

00;23;39;19 - 00;23;40;21
Sarah
Wow. It's bulbs down.

00;23;40;21 - 00;23;42;04
Mark
That expensive theater.

00;23;42;09 - 00;23;53;28
Sarah
Do you know, I. It's bad luck to whistle backstage now because the riggers used to use whistles as cues. Oh, So if you whistle and they mistake it for a cue, they might drop a piece of scenery on somebody or something and.

00;23;53;28 - 00;23;57;09
Mark
Things like that, you know? Yeah. Murdoch makes an age joke.

00;23;57;09 - 00;24;05;09
Sarah
Yeah. Yeah. When was that performance? 20, 30 years ago. I don't know. Who looks more offended? Stella Smart. Who's not smart or Bracken read.

00;24;05;12 - 00;24;14;17
Mark
Oh, we'll get to how dumb these people are. First of all, they're all dumb because they can't hire more performers. There's 20 roles in Macbeth, and there's four of them.

00;24;14;17 - 00;24;18;02
Sarah
They're working hard. Like how many costume changes do they have?

00;24;18;05 - 00;24;34;28
Mark
So Julian figures out, with the help of Murdoch, that it's murder because the well, he finds clear stab wounds in the coat. Yeah. Which he stumps in his face would then read of eye gore.

00;24;35;07 - 00;24;48;03
Sarah
Let's talk about the sink. Oh, okay. This body's been up there for years. Yeah, there would have been quite a period of time where it would have smelled really, really bad. Way worse than it is now.

00;24;48;03 - 00;24;51;05
Mark
The stupidest place to put a body.

00;24;51;06 - 00;25;15;20
Sarah
What did they think? Or pretend to think the smell was? Why would anybody have come to that theater and to see a performance dirty? It would have smelled so bad. We'll come back to why it's done that they put the body there. Yes, but yeah, it would have smelled really bad. I don't know how bad it would have smelled in the jacket by this time, but it's not something I would want to put near my face.

00;25;15;23 - 00;25;20;15
Mark
And then Murdock's like, Oh, you can't making skeleton soup. It's stinky.

00;25;21;29 - 00;25;22;20
Sarah
You let.

00;25;22;20 - 00;25;38;17
Mark
Her in. Meanwhile, Julie is making all the best more jokes ever. She's fantastic. She I love how she completely he doesn't care about him in his sensitivity sensitivities at all.

00;25;38;17 - 00;26;00;19
Sarah
So there's Stella Smart who owns the theater. Yeah, that was actually the property of her dead husband, Virgil. Her now husband, Arthur Wellesley. Then there's the young couple, Allen Granger, and David Martin. Yes, Right. So there's four actors. That's it. That's it. And they're four suspects.

00;26;00;27 - 00;26;07;21
Mark
That's it. And it's like, Whoa, we don't know what happened to them. Well, there's only four of you. You should have figured it out.

00;26;07;21 - 00;26;15;11
Sarah
Oh, it's probably a vagrant who just died up there. And we never notice the incredible stink or the dripping acorah oozing grins.

00;26;15;12 - 00;26;17;14
Mark
Just wander in and out all the time.

00;26;17;14 - 00;26;23;29
Sarah
And they. They smell bad anyway. So, you know, they find the newspaper page and the jacket packet.

00;26;23;29 - 00;26;24;28
Mark
Murdoch finds a.

00;26;24;28 - 00;26;26;21
Sarah
Clue clue.

00;26;26;23 - 00;26;29;05
Mark
Which is an old newspaper print.

00;26;29;07 - 00;26;32;10
Sarah
So you can't read it. Well, you can't make out all the letters.

00;26;32;11 - 00;26;34;16
Mark
And make part of it so.

00;26;34;22 - 00;26;41;00
Sarah
Sick. See dash, dash, Aldi, dash, dash and oh, dash, dash and dash.

00;26;41;00 - 00;26;44;29
Mark
And you get those great comedic moments where George is like.

00;26;45;08 - 00;26;45;14
Sarah
This.

00;26;45;25 - 00;26;47;06
Mark
Coin drawer in orange.

00;26;47;07 - 00;26;56;16
Sarah
This would make quite the game. It could be. It could be sick cauldron Ozone. Yes. Or sick children. Oh, Pine.

00;26;56;23 - 00;26;58;03
Mark
O oh.

00;26;58;18 - 00;27;04;16
Sarah
Oh pine or sick children owing their debt.

00;27;04;17 - 00;27;06;16
Mark
So sick kids only in America.

00;27;06;17 - 00;27;08;23
Sarah
Only in America do sick kids owe money. Yeah.

00;27;08;26 - 00;27;15;26
Mark
So they find the new spirit. Well, okay, so it's 66 Sick Children's Hospital. Yes. Is what it is.

00;27;15;26 - 00;27;17;15
Sarah
Sick children opened.

00;27;17;22 - 00;27;27;15
Mark
Yes. So a couple of things here. One, George says this would make a great game. Now, there's no hangman game at this point in time.

00;27;27;22 - 00;27;28;27
Sarah
Oh, it's not invented yet.

00;27;29;13 - 00;27;34;11
Mark
There's a common game that uses spaces in letters, but it's not hangman.

00;27;34;12 - 00;27;37;14
Sarah
If you're not familiar with hangman, some people might not be.

00;27;37;14 - 00;27;43;08
Mark
I hope they are, because now I never want to look at hangman stuff again.

00;27;43;08 - 00;28;01;22
Sarah
And when you play hangman, it's a game that kids play. Sometimes it's on a piece of paper. You draw a little gallows and then you make dashes for missing letters to spell out a phrase or a word, and somebody guesses a letter and it sits in the phrase, Is it Wheel of Fortune? Yeah, If it's in the phrase you put the letter in.

00;28;01;22 - 00;28;06;22
Sarah
If that letter doesn't appear in the phrase, you draw like a head hanging from the noose. Yes.

00;28;06;22 - 00;28;10;02
Mark
Merv Griffin has referred to it in Wheel of Fortune.

00;28;10;02 - 00;28;19;18
Sarah
Yes. So you got a head, a body, a leg, a leg, an arm in arm. So you get six guesses that are incorrect before you lose.

00;28;19;18 - 00;28;24;09
Mark
Yeah. So I did a little bit of a search into this, and.

00;28;24;25 - 00;28;27;13
Sarah
It's always been kind of dark, I think.

00;28;27;15 - 00;28;27;25
Mark
Like.

00;28;27;29 - 00;28;29;27
Sarah
That you're drawing already. Hang it.

00;28;30;04 - 00;28;31;23
Mark
It's dark, but then.

00;28;31;24 - 00;28;34;26
Sarah
Whoo hoo hoo hoo hoo!

00;28;36;01 - 00;29;01;13
Mark
It gets real dark because the version that incorporated the hanging imagery was described in the 1902 Philadelphia Inquirer article, which stated a popular white cap party hosted by Vigilance committees were a vigilante. Yes, vigilance committees. Vigilance committees where guests wore white peaked caps with masks.

00;29;01;21 - 00;29;03;06
Sarah
Subtle. I hope they were.

00;29;03;07 - 00;29;04;01
Mark
KKK.

00;29;04;01 - 00;29;12;27
Sarah
And not missed. Not confused about what that outfit was for. What do you mean? This is where we wear to all of our parties. We're not bad people. What are you talking about?

00;29;12;28 - 00;29;14;03
Mark
Yeah, like.

00;29;14;13 - 00;29;23;22
Sarah
First of all. So it's a KKK game. Yeah. Oh, maybe we should let it go there. Yeah. Whose is it? Don't play that game.

00;29;23;22 - 00;29;24;16
Mark
Yeah, don't.

00;29;24;16 - 00;29;26;03
Sarah
Play. Just play Wheel of Fortune.

00;29;26;04 - 00;29;39;19
Mark
Flattering man. It's not what you think. You. It's not the fun gallows humor game that you know. So then they find the newspaper and it's six Children's hospital is.

00;29;39;19 - 00;29;40;18
Sarah
Sick children.

00;29;40;18 - 00;29;41;02
Mark
Sick.

00;29;41;09 - 00;29;42;16
Sarah
Children opened.

00;29;42;23 - 00;29;46;06
Mark
The hospital Sick Children's Hospital opens.

00;29;46;11 - 00;29;48;13
Sarah
No, it's sick children opened.

00;29;48;13 - 00;29;49;07
Mark
O Sick children.

00;29;49;07 - 00;29;50;15
Sarah
Hospital for.

00;29;50;16 - 00;29;51;03
Mark
Hospital.

00;29;51;03 - 00;29;52;11
Sarah
Sick children open.

00;29;52;16 - 00;29;56;08
Mark
So this is the Victoria Sick Children's Hospital.

00;29;56;08 - 00;29;58;28
Sarah
Is this what we call sick kids now? No, in Toronto.

00;29;59;11 - 00;30;29;27
Mark
Sort of. It's the original home of it. It becomes incredibly gorgeous building. It was built in a few years early, 1889, I think is the exact year it was built. It's now a blood services building. It is located at college and Elizabeth, it's gorgeous. It's red sandstone. It's it's absolutely I remember going by there all the time, remarking, especially in the doorway, which is a big arch.

00;30;29;27 - 00;30;42;16
Mark
There's these designs that are really cool to look at. Are they sick kids? The Toronto Hospital for Sick Children is further down. Elizabeth now, which has all the famous people so.

00;30;42;25 - 00;30;44;08
Sarah
Super modern and everything.

00;30;44;17 - 00;30;45;03
Mark
That's for.

00;30;45;04 - 00;30;46;01
Sarah
Ryan Reynolds.

00;30;46;01 - 00;30;50;21
Mark
But people but it's near there but it's further down Elizabeth Street.

00;30;50;21 - 00;30;54;00
Sarah
The little decorative things in the building aren't sick kids, right?

00;30;54;00 - 00;31;01;04
Mark
No, no, they're angels. Oh, no, but but like, adult angels, Like we were helping sick kids.

00;31;01;05 - 00;31;06;13
Sarah
Okay, I guess so. When images of death associated with a hospital company.

00;31;06;13 - 00;31;12;06
Mark
Come on the newspaper. Anyway, find out some weird story. Okay.

00;31;12;07 - 00;31;18;03
Sarah
I didn't look closely at this newspaper. It's been my job the last few episodes. Is the Russian Ripper mentioned anywhere.

00;31;18;03 - 00;31;18;25
Mark
On the back of the.

00;31;18;25 - 00;31;20;00
Sarah
Page, of course.

00;31;20;10 - 00;31;38;26
Mark
Is two more. An agent and a gardener arrested for bribery. I couldn't find any in the bureau. An investigation couldn't find anything. And then the other story, Dr. Johnson declares the fall would not cause these fractures. The wheat would have crushed wells or cut part of his head off. I don't know.

00;31;38;27 - 00;31;40;26
Sarah
I wouldn't know what that was.

00;31;40;26 - 00;31;52;19
Mark
And then on the back, there's a big storm in May 1892, which I couldn't find a reference to at all, and a building boom. And in the building boom story, there's stuff about the Russian Ripper.

00;31;54;03 - 00;32;08;16
Sarah
So the Russian Ripper wanted to buy the theater maybe. So the bad guys that they claimed came and maybe killed Virgil were the Russian Ripper and his homies. Yeah, I. Yeah. Okay, now. Now the pieces come together.

00;32;08;29 - 00;32;09;16
Mark
Speaking in.

00;32;09;16 - 00;32;10;05
Sarah
Pieces.

00;32;11;08 - 00;32;13;20
Mark
Julia has found some dentures.

00;32;13;20 - 00;32;20;21
Sarah
Wow. They're bad dancers. So they look like those. Those, like, fake false teeth you get at the Halloween store.

00;32;21;07 - 00;32;30;08
Mark
And then we have one of those great moments where this guy just shows up nowhere and eats the scenery.

00;32;30;08 - 00;32;36;16
Sarah
Before you got there, did you notice what Julia is using to hold the skull When she gets it out of the pot?

00;32;37;05 - 00;32;38;14
Mark
They're like forceps.

00;32;38;15 - 00;32;40;20
Sarah
They their specific kind of forceps.

00;32;40;20 - 00;32;41;08
Mark
What are they?

00;32;41;10 - 00;32;42;19
Sarah
They're baby forceps.

00;32;42;19 - 00;32;44;03
Mark
Oh, okay.

00;32;44;03 - 00;32;51;29
Sarah
Those are a horrible devices that they used to use to grab a baby's skull and pull it out of the mother. That caused all of the damage to people.

00;32;51;29 - 00;32;55;20
Mark
I can remember hearing about those as a kid and going, Oh, my.

00;32;55;20 - 00;33;20;18
Sarah
Gosh, what do you mean? You grabbed the baby by its head and pull with metal. They're curved. Oh, basically, yeah. They look like big salad tongs. Actually, I think our salad tongs would be better because our salad tongs look like hands on sticks. I think they would be better. But yeah, she lifts it out with these big baby tongs and she's like, Oh, that's poor Yorick.

00;33;20;18 - 00;33;38;27
Sarah
I knew him well. He mark humor. He and Murdock's like, I don't get it. Yeah, it's. Yeah, right. Just wait. Isn't it probably always stinky in there? Yeah. Few bodies are fresh and they don't stay fresh long. You should expect that.

00;33;38;27 - 00;33;42;04
Mark
So we go to the dentist's office, which is full of blood and screams.

00;33;42;22 - 00;33;45;15
Sarah
It just makes me think of going to the dentist.

00;33;45;23 - 00;33;47;03
Mark
They've been known to run.

00;33;47;11 - 00;34;09;03
Sarah
Yeah, well, and the dentist has to drill with one hand because he's pedaling the thing. Right? The drill. So he's got to keep one hand on the back of the chair to steady himself while he pedals. And then he's got the drill in the guy's face like you think your hand with jiggle around. Gosh, I'm glad to have been born when I was born.

00;34;09;03 - 00;34;13;10
Sarah
Yes. Give me the numbing stuff. Give me the nitrous. Wake me up when it's over.

00;34;13;10 - 00;34;29;02
Mark
An artist always knows his work. And then we cut to the most typical Toronto Cabbage Town house ever. The outside of it is just so very typical. Canada.

00;34;29;10 - 00;34;30;00
Sarah
Oh, is it?

00;34;30;00 - 00;34;30;17
Mark
Yeah.

00;34;30;23 - 00;34;31;22
Sarah
The smart house.

00;34;31;27 - 00;34;36;15
Mark
Yeah, I've been on. I used to live in Cabbagetown, so I used to walk by those houses.

00;34;36;15 - 00;34;43;20
Sarah
It's gorgeous on the inside the woodwork and everything. Yeah, it's really beautiful. It reminds me of, like, a row house in, like, New York.

00;34;43;20 - 00;34;45;13
Mark
Do you remember this day? No.

00;34;45;26 - 00;35;06;17
Sarah
You should. It's the day your husband died. Oh, so traumatic. Oh, and then she passes out again. She's already one down. They. Stella, she's not a good actress. But Kate Trotter, who plays Stella, is a very good actress because she can act at being a bad actress. This can't be easy to do.

00;35;06;17 - 00;35;09;24
Mark
It was a closed task. There wasn't even a wait. Well.

00;35;10;03 - 00;35;13;19
Sarah
Guess what? It was vertical in the rafters. It was your husband in the rafters.

00;35;13;29 - 00;35;16;21
Mark
He was having shady sort come in.

00;35;16;24 - 00;35;27;11
Sarah
The Russian Ripper kept coming. You said in the theater that was the worst Russian accent ever. But then you don't know who's buried in Virgil's grave.

00;35;27;18 - 00;35;31;15
Mark
Yeah. So they dig up Virgil's grave and they find another body.

00;35;31;16 - 00;35;48;21
Sarah
And Julia's like, It's so hard to get a good skeleton. Now I have to a good week. This is a Navy. So now they've got two stinky bodies. Yeah, And she says that both skulls have this distinctive a long dated frontal lobe.

00;35;49;01 - 00;35;51;22
Mark
Yeah, that's. That's. I'm painful.

00;35;51;27 - 00;36;00;09
Sarah
No, it just means that the front slope of their forehead is a little bit longer, and they probably had a more masculine brow.

00;36;00;10 - 00;36;00;21
Mark
No.

00;36;00;25 - 00;36;19;28
Sarah
Okay. But it's to the scale that these two bodies both have it. She says, is rare. So I remember thinking the first time I saw I was like, Who was Eddie Virgil's son? Is that what this is all about? Yeah. You know, they had to. They killed Virgil to get the theater, and they had to kill Eddie, too, because Eddie was a son and would have secretly inherited the theater.

00;36;20;02 - 00;36;30;06
Sarah
No, it's complete red herring. It doesn't matter at all. Except they looked sort of the same. But it doesn't even matter because Eddie was face down on the desk, and they knew exactly who he was. Because they killed him.

00;36;30;06 - 00;36;36;01
Mark
Yes, I'm a policeman. And, Inspector, what books do I have in my office?

00;36;36;14 - 00;36;36;28
Sarah
Macbeth.

00;36;37;05 - 00;36;38;03
Mark
You have Macbeth?

00;36;38;18 - 00;36;39;04
Sarah
Shakespeare?

00;36;39;07 - 00;36;41;14
Mark
I'm not sure why, but. Okay. What else?

00;36;41;24 - 00;36;46;21
Sarah
Because he also has a wardrobe full of clean clothes in his office. He has all kinds of things in his office.

00;36;46;21 - 00;36;48;16
Mark
He does? Did you notice any other books?

00;36;48;17 - 00;36;48;27
Sarah
No.

00;36;49;01 - 00;36;49;16
Mark
Okay.

00;36;49;29 - 00;36;50;18
Sarah
I'm sure you.

00;36;50;18 - 00;36;55;00
Mark
Did. Oh, yes. He has two H.G. Wells books. Nice. He has the.

00;36;55;07 - 00;36;57;18
Sarah
He borrowed those from the IRA, I'm sure.

00;36;57;18 - 00;37;11;20
Mark
And he has the food of God, too. Very strange. Oh, yeah? Yeah. H.G. Wells books and a book of poems. Just in case. You know, after beating a suspect, you need to read some poetry while you sleep Your whiskey.

00;37;11;26 - 00;37;18;27
Sarah
Well, he is educated. Yes, Right. And if he's not that well-educated, he would like people to think he is.

00;37;18;27 - 00;37;24;16
Mark
I would agree with that. Plus, he has the I'm posh card because I'm Britain.

00;37;24;27 - 00;37;25;12
Sarah
Mm.

00;37;25;29 - 00;37;34;09
Mark
Which is still today like there is never more a posh British person than a British person who goes to a coffee.

00;37;34;09 - 00;37;37;18
Sarah
Oh. So as soon as you set foot in Canada you're fancy British.

00;37;37;28 - 00;37;38;10
Mark
Because you're.

00;37;38;10 - 00;37;39;07
Sarah
British. Okay.

00;37;39;14 - 00;37;41;02
Mark
It is, It is.

00;37;41;09 - 00;37;48;09
Sarah
I don't know if Americans feel that way. We might feel that way about their TV, their media, but I don't know if they feel that way about their people.

00;37;48;14 - 00;37;57;26
Mark
My friend Phil, who was British, who lived in Canada, who played drums in my band, would remark about it all all the time because Phil was not fancy.

00;37;58;04 - 00;37;59;00
Sarah
But people treated him.

00;37;59;00 - 00;38;03;24
Mark
And people treated him. As soon as they heard his accent, they would treat him as if he was fancy.

00;38;03;24 - 00;38;06;23
Sarah
Oh, yeah. Talk to me. Yeah, I like your accent.

00;38;06;23 - 00;38;07;26
Mark
It was just nuts.

00;38;08;04 - 00;38;13;28
Sarah
So they question the actors? Yes. And they all say exactly the same story.

00;38;13;28 - 00;38;16;21
Mark
That is such good editing because it's a.

00;38;16;21 - 00;38;19;21
Sarah
Good there's lots of good montages. In this episode, you.

00;38;19;21 - 00;38;26;22
Mark
Reached the same conclusion that Murdoch reaches at the same time. Yeah, and you're given all the same evidence.

00;38;26;22 - 00;38;29;16
Sarah
But but it's another stupid point for these people.

00;38;29;18 - 00;38;31;13
Mark
These people are so stupid.

00;38;31;18 - 00;38;38;24
Sarah
They hide the body in the worst place they could of. Yeah. Then they rehearse their story. And because they're actors, they memorize.

00;38;38;24 - 00;38;39;22
Mark
It, memorize and.

00;38;39;22 - 00;38;44;27
Sarah
Deliver it verbatim. Stupid Stella Smart crew is stupid.

00;38;45;02 - 00;38;57;00
Mark
Yes, absolutely. And then back and read tells the story about being hurt as a boy, breaks his leg is a boy and there's a he remembers the doctor's office smelling of tobacco and peppermint.

00;38;57;00 - 00;38;58;09
Sarah
Don't you? Don't you remember that?

00;38;58;11 - 00;39;02;14
Mark
Oh, yeah, definitely. But that's like. That's good writing there.

00;39;02;14 - 00;39;02;22
Sarah
It is.

00;39;02;22 - 00;39;08;11
Mark
Good writing. And then there's a montage of outside stuff and a guy in a bowler hat wanders around with cane.

00;39;09;03 - 00;39;10;25
Sarah
Because you know you need transitions.

00;39;10;25 - 00;39;16;00
Mark
Yes. Meanwhile, the constables have found this new crazy thing called Shadow Barrel.

00;39;16;04 - 00;39;24;15
Sarah
Yeah, they're all reading up as if they need to know it for the case. Yeah, they seem to have some down time.

00;39;24;20 - 00;39;25;11
Mark
They do.

00;39;26;00 - 00;39;33;05
Sarah
Now. At first I was like, Wait a minute, wouldn't they be somewhat familiar with Shakespeare, even if it was just from the popular culture kind? I would.

00;39;33;05 - 00;39;33;13
Mark
Think.

00;39;33;13 - 00;39;46;10
Sarah
So. I think they would be sort of familiar with like maybe Romeo and Juliet, maybe, you know, like one of them, but they might have never actually read Macbeth. I think there's a lot of people who've probably never actually read it.

00;39;46;18 - 00;39;51;08
Mark
Yet in the language is really beginning to get difficult at this point in time.

00;39;51;09 - 00;39;55;19
Sarah
Yeah, I would have thought it would be just as difficult for them as it was for us.

00;39;55;29 - 00;39;56;19
Mark
For us.

00;39;56;19 - 00;40;01;02
Sarah
Well, Dr. Watkins, when you originally diagnosed, the body.

00;40;01;04 - 00;40;03;00
Mark
Had a knack for you.

00;40;03;23 - 00;40;20;10
Sarah
That's the nicest way of saying that he was no good at his job. If he'd been stabbed, he probably would have picked up on that. But he can't tell the difference between being strangled and heart failure. Yes, there's a big difference there. Mostly the marks on the neck.

00;40;21;00 - 00;40;26;14
Mark
But luckily Murdoch has a plan and he has another thing. Do you know what else he has?

00;40;26;15 - 00;40;28;27
Sarah
He invents facial reconstruction.

00;40;28;27 - 00;40;32;01
Mark
Yes, because he has clay in his arts and craft.

00;40;32;11 - 00;40;36;23
Sarah
Yes. Which is also where he kept the liver covered in bugs.

00;40;36;23 - 00;40;47;12
Mark
Yeah. I wonder what other things he has in his arts. Craft. Touch, glitter, maybe glue sticks. Elmer's glue sticks.

00;40;47;12 - 00;40;49;09
Sarah
Yeah. Well, I'd be like horse glue.

00;40;49;09 - 00;40;50;04
Mark
Macaroni.

00;40;50;07 - 00;41;00;12
Sarah
Macaroni. Yeah. Paint, paint. We know he has safety scissors. Definitely. He'd say pom pom pom pom. Or a cotton.

00;41;00;12 - 00;41;01;28
Mark
Balls. Yes, cotton.

00;41;01;28 - 00;41;03;14
Sarah
Balls can be used for all kinds.

00;41;03;14 - 00;41;04;16
Mark
Of things. Those things.

00;41;04;18 - 00;41;09;22
Sarah
I just think it's incredibly convenient that Julia happens, be a wonderful sculptress.

00;41;09;22 - 00;41;11;04
Mark
And has the time.

00;41;12;04 - 00;41;15;24
Sarah
Well, she's in a montage, Mark. Everybody has time in a montage.

00;41;15;24 - 00;41;21;18
Mark
It shakes a normal person who's doing this today professionally.

00;41;21;26 - 00;41;23;15
Sarah
Weeks Yes.

00;41;23;22 - 00;41;27;04
Mark
And she just whips it together. It's in the afternoon.

00;41;27;05 - 00;41;46;17
Sarah
I tell you how many times in my life I have just thought I could get through this. Whatever it is, if I could just have a montage. Yes. You know, it's going to happen. This thing is going to happen. It's going to take way longer than I want it to, but I'm going to have to endure it. Can I just have a montage and just get through it?

00;41;46;17 - 00;41;47;00
Mark
Yeah.

00;41;47;00 - 00;42;07;12
Sarah
So she what she would have had to have done using the book that he's given her, which did exist. Yeah. Book is real crime is she would have had to make a rope of clay that was uniform in width. Okay. And then meticulously measured the lengths of little pieces that she was slicing off of it and then adhering to the skull.

00;42;07;13 - 00;42;12;20
Sarah
The skull in exactly the right places without deforming them. This is very hard to do.

00;42;12;20 - 00;42;13;27
Mark
I can only imagine.

00;42;13;27 - 00;42;22;11
Sarah
This is why people who do this now use a polymer clay to do that, and they use a 3D scan of the skull, not the original. Yes. All right.

00;42;22;12 - 00;42;27;01
Mark
I did notice that, too. And then they have those little plugs, give you the depth.

00;42;27;11 - 00;42;32;28
Sarah
They have pre-made plugs at a certain depth. Yes. So they don't have to do that. But she would have had to have done that.

00;42;32;29 - 00;42;33;28
Mark
She would have had to do it.

00;42;33;28 - 00;42;52;14
Sarah
She would have used calipers to measure the length of each of those. But then you do have to do what she does. You have to recreate the musculature, and then you have to roll clay out into sheets that are certain thicknesses for certain parts of the face. So they replicate the thickness of the skin and the fat on that area of the face.

00;42;52;14 - 00;42;55;21
Mark
Luckily, his rolling pin is arts and craft touch to.

00;42;55;21 - 00;43;05;15
Sarah
It just so happens that the end result of this looks a lot like what a clay cast of a face casting would look like. What are you.

00;43;05;26 - 00;43;06;17
Mark
What are you.

00;43;07;01 - 00;43;20;26
Sarah
So some poor person, maybe the actor who plays Eddie in the photograph maybe had to have silicone mold mold of their face made. Do you think it's weird that when Julia brings it into Murdock's office, they have it covered with the cloth and we don't get to see it?

00;43;21;00 - 00;43;22;22
Mark
Yeah, I was like.

00;43;22;25 - 00;43;29;27
Sarah
That was kind of says. I'm like, Well, is there not a face under there? It's like, could they not pull it off? Or Yeah, is that a mannequin.

00;43;29;27 - 00;43;30;15
Mark
Or.

00;43;31;04 - 00;43;33;19
Sarah
Was it not ready to shoot that.

00;43;33;24 - 00;43;36;00
Mark
To do suspense? And it becomes.

00;43;36;13 - 00;43;40;19
Sarah
It's not suspenseful because we wouldn't recognize it anyway.

00;43;40;25 - 00;43;41;10
Mark
We would.

00;43;41;20 - 00;43;46;15
Sarah
Right. If they whipped the cloth off and it was Bracken Reed, you know.

00;43;46;16 - 00;43;48;03
Mark
Bill Bulger, it was just.

00;43;48;03 - 00;44;09;25
Sarah
Like. Murdoch. Oh, my gosh, Murdoch, it's you dead. Whoa. You know, that would be different. But since we're not going to recognize it anyway, it doesn't matter what it looks like. Yeah, but I don't think it looks like Eddie in the photograph. I've got an image here in my notes of the two side by side, and I even drew a mustache and eyebrows on the screenshot of the clay face.

00;44;10;01 - 00;44;11;05
Sarah
And it still doesn't really look.

00;44;11;10 - 00;44;11;27
Mark
Doesn't look.

00;44;11;27 - 00;44;23;05
Sarah
Like him. No, I don't. I don't think it does. But Eddie was cut from the cast a few days before Virgil died. Yes. So we're supposed to think. Oh, well, Eddie was distraught and probably violent.

00;44;23;09 - 00;44;23;23
Mark
Yes.

00;44;23;23 - 00;44;30;12
Sarah
So he he killed Virgil and then killed himself and put himself in a locked room.

00;44;30;12 - 00;44;43;00
Mark
So Murdoch goes to the theater with George to do actual detective work. And I like how George isn't just stupid here. George is, like, actually thinking out loud.

00;44;43;06 - 00;44;46;09
Sarah
Oh, yeah? Yeah. And they find the hidden room.

00;44;46;09 - 00;44;47;12
Mark
They find the hidden room.

00;44;47;12 - 00;44;48;16
Sarah
In Virgil's office.

00;44;48;16 - 00;44;57;13
Mark
And I begin the screaming at this point in time. Why? Because this is the stupidest group of people ever. Okay.

00;44;58;00 - 00;44;59;09
Sarah
Did they get another stupid plan?

00;44;59;09 - 00;45;00;05
Mark
Follow me.

00;45;00;05 - 00;45;00;19
Sarah
Okay.

00;45;00;28 - 00;45;12;17
Mark
They all know where the room is. They all know how to get into the room. Yet in three years, they have not clean up the room.

00;45;13;25 - 00;45;15;15
Sarah
They have removed evidence.

00;45;15;15 - 00;45;25;00
Mark
Why would you just leave the evidence lying there? There's blood stains. I'm like.

00;45;25;25 - 00;45;33;18
Sarah
Wait a minute. Like, if it were us, we would have renovated that room. Yeah, it would be a parlor.

00;45;33;18 - 00;45;37;04
Mark
Now, I think you should open it up. And it's a tea room. Yeah.

00;45;37;14 - 00;45;37;28
Sarah
Surprise.

00;45;38;00 - 00;45;49;14
Mark
In the den of iniquity. Oh, leave that picture of the naked woman above the broken glass and the blood. Yeah, So I just couldn't go in there. Why not?

00;45;49;26 - 00;45;51;20
Sarah
You'd rather go to prison then?

00;45;51;27 - 00;46;00;10
Mark
And. And you brought this up. Okay, So where in the fear could we have in the body in a that would have been more stupid.

00;46;00;16 - 00;46;05;13
Sarah
Yeah. Right above the stage is such a stupid place to put it.

00;46;05;15 - 00;46;07;04
Mark
They could put them in the ticket booth.

00;46;07;17 - 00;46;13;24
Sarah
That would have been dumber. Yes. I mean, never mind the fact that there's probably ample room under the stage.

00;46;13;24 - 00;46;14;07
Mark
Yes.

00;46;14;16 - 00;46;22;29
Sarah
Because almost every theater like this would have had a trapdoor in the stage where they would have brought props up and down. So there would have been all kinds of storage and spaces under the stage.

00;46;22;29 - 00;46;27;22
Mark
And that put them in the orchestra pit. Third trombone. That guy sure is quiet.

00;46;28;15 - 00;46;31;14
Sarah
He's skinny. Yes, skinny. He never goes.

00;46;31;14 - 00;46;37;12
Mark
Never goes home. And that guy in the only in the box. That's really fancy, man.

00;46;37;12 - 00;46;41;11
Sarah
You mean the mysterious man in box style? Yes. He's getting thinner, too, I think.

00;46;41;12 - 00;46;42;02
Mark
Yes, I think.

00;46;42;02 - 00;46;44;07
Sarah
Kind of smells for a rich guy. Yeah.

00;46;44;11 - 00;46;45;17
Mark
Yeah. And he never goes.

00;46;45;17 - 00;46;50;20
Sarah
Oh, and that guy in the third bathroom stall. Oh, he smells bad.

00;46;50;21 - 00;46;59;18
Mark
All of these things are almost better. If only they had a room that no one knew about that they could hide the body.

00;46;59;24 - 00;47;03;27
Sarah
Hmm. This one is.

00;47;03;27 - 00;47;06;01
Mark
The perfect way for that guy. The body.

00;47;06;14 - 00;47;07;18
Sarah
Nobody ever would have found it.

00;47;07;26 - 00;47;10;22
Mark
Nobody would ever found it, And they would have gotten away with it.

00;47;10;24 - 00;47;11;16
Sarah
Absolutely.

00;47;11;21 - 00;47;15;10
Mark
And they could have cleaned it up at any time they wanted to.

00;47;15;12 - 00;47;21;23
Sarah
Any time they could have cleaned it up, they could have buried the body in the basement. So any time.

00;47;21;23 - 00;47;33;25
Mark
We're going to bring you value on this podcast, okay, we're going to put it out there. We're going to bring you bring to you is if you have a love den and there's a murder in, you should clean it up.

00;47;33;25 - 00;47;34;15
Sarah
Clean it up.

00;47;34;22 - 00;47;35;15
Mark
Clean it up.

00;47;36;05 - 00;47;51;17
Sarah
I got the total side note here, guys. So yesterday I make Mark go to the hardware store with me because I needed to buy something kind of heavy. And first of all, I sweet talked him into going by saying, I'll be fine. Let's go together. It'll be great. Dan, come on. It'll be a little adventure and go the hardware store.

00;47;51;26 - 00;48;09;16
Sarah
Basically across the street. Yes, because I knew I was buying something really, really heavy. He would have come anyway. Yeah, but while we're there and we're paying somebody, a woman comes in and says that she needs to buy some lye. And so the people working at the hardware store and this is a little hardware stores is like Lowe's.

00;48;09;16 - 00;48;26;00
Sarah
Yeah, the people working there are talking about the fact that they keep the lye behind the counter and that if you handle it, to give it to a customer, you have to go wash your hands immediately. And Mark and I, of course, immediately make eye contact. We're like, does she have a body? She has a body.

00;48;26;00 - 00;48;27;08
Mark
Needs to get rid of it.

00;48;27;08 - 00;48;44;16
Sarah
She needs to get rid of the body. And Mark starts joking about it in the parking lot. He's carrying this incredibly heavy thing that I had to buy and plonking it in the back of the car and talking about how that woman has taken her husband out and needs to hide the body, dissolve the body because we watched too many crime shows.

00;48;44;16 - 00;48;52;29
Sarah
And then I notice that she's right next to us getting into her car and giving him the dirtiest look I have ever seen.

00;48;52;29 - 00;48;55;01
Mark
And I was completely oblivious.

00;48;55;01 - 00;49;09;19
Sarah
And it was because you were focused on carrying the incredibly heavy thing. And I don't know if that look was, how dare you say that about me. That's not funny. Or dammit, somebody noticed. I was just going to come over here and buy it. Nobody was going to notice.

00;49;09;19 - 00;49;12;08
Mark
We're going to watch the newspapers.

00;49;12;08 - 00;49;22;03
Sarah
I'm going to be looking out for that distinctive car she was driving, because if it's pulling up slow in front of our house, she's coming for us because guess what? A lot of people know where we live.

00;49;22;03 - 00;49;22;11
Mark
Yeah.

00;49;23;05 - 00;49;30;07
Sarah
Because we've been in the newspaper a few times for good stuff. We're good for good stuff. Yeah, but our house has been in the newspaper.

00;49;30;17 - 00;49;36;16
Mark
So we ran into somebody walking the other night and we said, Oh, we live in. And he goes, I know where you live.

00;49;36;24 - 00;49;54;20
Sarah
Yeah. You didn't even get Halloween house out. Yeah, he already knew. Already knew and said, Oh I know where you live. Yeah. Oh I don't know what that means. Is that good? I don't know. But this is one of the side effects of consuming too much murderous media is that it starts to leak into the real world.

00;49;54;20 - 00;49;58;23
Mark
You know, we need Sarah. We need a montage of getting fingerprints.

00;49;58;23 - 00;50;04;06
Sarah
Yes. All the ways you can trick people, give them t hand them a photo of Julia.

00;50;05;09 - 00;50;06;21
Mark
Is this the woman you saw?

00;50;07;10 - 00;50;12;02
Sarah
No, but I'm touching a touching, touching, touching and giving it back.

00;50;12;02 - 00;50;16;13
Mark
I actually think these people would have been like, finger marks. What are you talking about?

00;50;16;16 - 00;50;18;04
Sarah
They're so stupid.

00;50;18;07 - 00;50;22;09
Mark
Yeah, they're pretty stupid. And I don't know if they were as much in the vernacular.

00;50;22;09 - 00;50;36;21
Sarah
What's a finger? I'm an actor. I don't know. I mean, come on. They should be wearing white cotton gloves all the time because they're theater people. Yes, You know. Oh, I can't possibly get my hands dirty. They're all in on it.

00;50;36;25 - 00;50;40;08
Mark
They're all of the young woman. What's her name again?

00;50;40;08 - 00;50;40;23
Sarah
Ellen.

00;50;40;23 - 00;50;47;23
Mark
She makes a joke about Eddie. Small part. I'm like, You killed him. And now you're making jokes about his pa.

00;50;49;06 - 00;50;54;27
Sarah
Well, Virgil's couldn't have been too small because Julia found it even after he'd been dead for a while.

00;50;56;01 - 00;50;57;01
Mark
For a big.

00;50;57;02 - 00;51;01;13
Sarah
Park corpse groping or groping.

00;51;02;05 - 00;51;03;28
Mark
They're all in this together.

00;51;04;08 - 00;51;21;13
Sarah
Yeah, and once it's out, so it's not protecting anybody? No. Do you notice how Arthur is like she did it? It was her. We had nothing. Nothing to do with it. And she's like, Yes, you did. You strangled Eddie. And he's like, Oh, yeah, yeah. I guess everybody knows now.

00;51;21;20 - 00;51;27;20
Mark
And for points, somebody said, Maybe we should clean up. No, no, no, no.

00;51;27;24 - 00;51;35;15
Sarah
Maybe that's the worst place to put the body. No, Like they could have used it as a prop. That would have been better.

00;51;35;15 - 00;51;36;13
Mark
Yeah. And so it.

00;51;36;13 - 00;51;39;15
Sarah
Could have been your skull. It would have been better.

00;51;39;15 - 00;51;42;17
Mark
Murdoch at this point knows he knows more.

00;51;42;17 - 00;51;46;17
Sarah
Yeah, he knows before he even invites them to stage this reenactment.

00;51;46;17 - 00;51;50;24
Mark
So they do a play within the TV show, which is about a play within a play.

00;51;50;24 - 00;51;51;11
Sarah
Yes.

00;51;51;12 - 00;51;51;26
Mark
Cute.

00;51;52;02 - 00;51;54;08
Sarah
And Constable Morrison gets to help.

00;51;54;26 - 00;51;56;05
Mark
He's fantastic.

00;51;56;16 - 00;52;03;01
Sarah
Well, we see him several more times. Yes. As Constable Morrison. In other episodes, he also plays Teddy Roosevelt.

00;52;03;06 - 00;52;04;20
Mark
Oh, yes. Oh, that's.

00;52;04;20 - 00;52;11;01
Sarah
Cool. There's a giveaway to spoiler if you haven't seen later seasons. Teddy Roosevelt shows up a couple of times.

00;52;11;01 - 00;52;15;27
Mark
Yeah. So what has happened is the young actress was.

00;52;15;28 - 00;52;18;21
Sarah
Ellen was making out with Virgil and his secret love.

00;52;18;21 - 00;52;20;10
Mark
Boudoir is love.

00;52;20;24 - 00;52;26;20
Sarah
And Stella found him and stabbed him with a letter opener. Yeah, because she just wasn't herself.

00;52;27;02 - 00;52;29;05
Mark
And she threw a glass.

00;52;29;15 - 00;52;44;23
Sarah
She threw a glass because she was angry, and then she stabbed him. And then they're like, Oh, no. What will we do with his body? I know. Let's put it in the rafters. But wait, we need another body now. Let's strangle this guy who has nothing to do with this.

00;52;44;23 - 00;52;46;03
Mark
So Machiavellian.

00;52;46;03 - 00;52;47;16
Sarah
And put him at the desk.

00;52;47;16 - 00;52;49;21
Mark
It's so contrived.

00;52;49;26 - 00;52;58;11
Sarah
Yeah. Yeah. It would have been easier for them to find another reason why he was stabbed or just hid his body in a better place and pretended he went missing.

00;52;58;11 - 00;53;16;19
Mark
Okay, let's do this. Okay. They all walk out of the room after he's been stabbed, okay? They all walk out of the room. They shut the door. They say to each other, We're going to tell anyone who asks about Virgil that he was last seen leaving with these bad guys.

00;53;16;19 - 00;53;18;19
Sarah
With their York, with the Russian Ripper.

00;53;18;19 - 00;53;25;05
Mark
With the Russian Ripper or the loan sharks or whatever. That's the last we saw of him. And we're.

00;53;25;05 - 00;53;26;01
Sarah
We're really worried.

00;53;26;12 - 00;53;28;22
Mark
That is a more successful plot.

00;53;29;01 - 00;53;30;18
Sarah
What happened? Way better.

00;53;30;18 - 00;53;33;19
Mark
They don't have to kill Eddie Green and his small parts.

00;53;33;19 - 00;53;34;00
Sarah
No.

00;53;34;15 - 00;53;44;29
Mark
They don't have to do anything else. No, Virgil, Now he's gone. I wish I knew where he was. I'm so upset. Passed out.

00;53;44;29 - 00;53;46;00
Sarah
Oh.

00;53;46;13 - 00;53;48;22
Mark
By the way, that's the sound. They started the episode.

00;53;50;12 - 00;53;57;26
Sarah
So Eddie gets an actual grave, his name on it. And Murdoch pays for the gravestone? Yes, Because he's a good person.

00;53;57;27 - 00;54;03;04
Mark
Because all Murdoch episodes have to end on a happy note, including Eddie's body.

00;54;03;11 - 00;54;15;02
Sarah
And Julia is like, Ow, ow, ow, ow! When really, Eddie's gravestone should have been paid for from Virgil's estate because he was his secret love son. Yeah.

00;54;16;18 - 00;54;17;26
Mark
With this frontal lobe.

00;54;17;26 - 00;54;25;16
Sarah
Which is what Stella actually knows, but didn't tell anybody and conveniently had them both killed so that he couldn't inherit the theater. But that doesn't come out.

00;54;25;17 - 00;54;28;21
Mark
He's like the most talked about character who does not appear.

00;54;29;05 - 00;54;43;15
Sarah
In it at all. Now, those four are going to go to prison. Yeah. And they're going to put on the best shows. Yeah. Prison plays out the wazoo. Yes. And Stella's going to have to have a little lackey in prison with a big pillow to catch her every time she passes.

00;54;43;15 - 00;54;47;29
Mark
Until somebody goes, Why didn't you just do? And then they killed them all again.

00;54;48;00 - 00;54;51;29
Sarah
Yes. You are the stupidest.

00;54;51;29 - 00;54;53;03
Mark
So stupid.

00;54;53;05 - 00;54;53;22
Sarah
So.

00;54;53;22 - 00;54;59;20
Mark
Stupid. I only wish Julia was like, Why didn't they do this? Didn't they do this now? People are stupid.

00;54;59;20 - 00;55;09;14
Sarah
I think Crabtree and Henry should have had a scene where they're like, Don't you think that was dumb? Like, even Henry knows it's dumb. If Henry knows it's done. It's super dumb.

00;55;09;19 - 00;55;19;19
Mark
That they had no time. But it would have been great if they had had a scene with Henry and Crabtree in the skull. Yeah, because that would have been the most Hamlet anything.

00;55;19;26 - 00;55;25;27
Sarah
Yes, you're right. That would have been really good. So best corpse. Well, is it Virgil or Addy?

00;55;25;28 - 00;55;28;06
Mark
I would say it's Virgil because he falls.

00;55;28;07 - 00;55;30;03
Sarah
He falls and he's got part.

00;55;31;07 - 00;55;38;07
Mark
Like, okay. And a jack. So you see the body fall. It doesn't bounce, though. They do a really good job.

00;55;38;07 - 00;55;45;26
Sarah
Yeah, well, I got a body real similar to that in the garage. I can tell you how you drop it.

00;55;45;26 - 00;55;47;15
Mark
Welcome to the Halloween house.

00;55;47;15 - 00;55;49;02
Sarah
Yes. Oh, I know where you live.

00;55;49;02 - 00;55;53;22
Mark
Oh, for you guys, the new people who are the podcast to have to listen. We do Halloween.

00;55;54;01 - 00;55;54;27
Sarah
You have no idea.

00;55;54;27 - 00;55;55;14
Mark
You No.

00;55;55;14 - 00;56;00;17
Sarah
Idea. I'm already spending, like, 20 hours a week on Halloween. Yes, it's only March.

00;56;00;17 - 00;56;04;08
Mark
April. We are. It is the house that everybody mentions in town.

00;56;04;08 - 00;56;14;05
Sarah
Yeah. So? So that's best corpse. Yes. After the credits, those four go to prison. Yeah. Put on awesome shows. Yes, but I don't know. Stella might get the noose.

00;56;14;11 - 00;56;15;08
Mark
She might.

00;56;15;08 - 00;56;17;05
Sarah
Unless she can really put on the world.

00;56;17;06 - 00;56;21;10
Mark
No, she doesn't. Because we know of all the women who died from the noose, remember?

00;56;21;10 - 00;56;38;22
Sarah
That's true. It's historically accurate. She doesn't get the noose. But I think she and maybe Arthur, both of them got a pretty good chance because they dep. I mean, Arthur especially, he killed somebody in cold blood to cover up another crime. Yeah, that's pretty hard. Yeah.

00;56;39;07 - 00;56;43;29
Mark
They're all horrible and stupid. The judge needs to go and you're stupid.

00;56;44;03 - 00;56;49;00
Sarah
And another 20 years for being so dumb. Keep you dumb people off the streaming.

00;56;49;02 - 00;56;53;27
Mark
They had a room that was secret that they could hide the body.

00;56;53;27 - 00;57;02;26
Sarah
But, Marge, that was the make out boudoir. You can't put a body. And Derek and lady pictures.

00;57;02;26 - 00;57;17;12
Mark
Okay. At what point in time? Okay. I don't know whether, like, I don't know who's, like. Is Virgil so stupid that he's like. If I put up a picture of a naked lady, I will get naked lady. It's like that does not work.

00;57;18;25 - 00;57;36;13
Sarah
Pictures of naked ladies don't attract naked ladies. They just show up. If I put this big bed with a canopy over it in here, ladies won't know what I'm up to. He was a theater producer. You know, they're notoriously kind of.

00;57;36;25 - 00;57;41;13
Mark
Just horrible casting. Secret room.

00;57;41;18 - 00;57;51;09
Sarah
Yeah. When we. We had a hidden room where we could put the body. If only I have horrible movie for you. Okay, Just one.

00;57;51;09 - 00;57;51;28
Mark
Just one.

00;57;52;02 - 00;57;59;05
Sarah
I have to admit, I don't actually know whether this movie is really that horrible. It might just be super weird.

00;57;59;21 - 00;58;02;12
Mark
That the likelihood of me seeing it is increase.

00;58;02;22 - 00;58;10;26
Sarah
Is from 2014. Okay. And the guy who plays David Martin, the younger dumb actor. Yeah. In this episode of Murdoch is in this movie.

00;58;10;27 - 00;58;11;07
Mark
Okay.

00;58;11;14 - 00;58;12;23
Sarah
His name is David Kristo.

00;58;12;24 - 00;58;13;07
Mark
Okay.

00;58;13;20 - 00;58;34;15
Sarah
And here is the synopsis for you. In a world, no, in a world where toys are living beings, a forgotten doll seeks out his former owner during the holiday season in Toronto while putting himself at odds with the corrupt factory factory executive who created him. Dun dun dun.

00;58;34;23 - 00;58;40;02
Mark
This is sounds like a bad Toy Story rip off. Is it anime? No. Oh, it's.

00;58;40;02 - 00;58;44;15
Sarah
Live action while people who. Oh.

00;58;45;04 - 00;58;49;00
Mark
I've not seen this, but. Oh wow, it sounds bad.

00;58;49;00 - 00;59;04;20
Sarah
We may have to watch it. Okay. There is a scene in the trailer of the factory where the toys are born. Yes. Where a bunch of men are grabbing cabbages off of a line and pulling them apart to pull a fetus out of each one.

00;59;04;28 - 00;59;05;14
Mark
Work.

00;59;05;14 - 00;59;11;09
Sarah
Because that's how toys are born. What my Cabbage Patch kids. What I know.

00;59;12;06 - 00;59;14;02
Mark
Is this the Cabbage Patch Kid movie?

00;59;14;02 - 00;59;18;03
Sarah
They're like tiny babies that they pull out of the inside of the house.

00;59;18;03 - 00;59;19;17
Mark
Oh, any of this work?

00;59;19;25 - 00;59;22;00
Sarah
It is called Patch Town.

00;59;22;05 - 00;59;23;22
Mark
Patch Town. Wow.

00;59;23;22 - 00;59;25;11
Sarah
No, it's five out of ten.

00;59;25;11 - 00;59;34;16
Mark
Never seen that or never seen a trailer. Never seen anything. It is super set in Toronto. Yes. Is it in Cabbage Town?

00;59;34;19 - 00;59;39;15
Sarah
Maybe It looks kind of Brazil like we're.

00;59;39;15 - 00;59;40;05
Mark
Surrounded.

00;59;40;05 - 00;59;46;02
Sarah
By this kind of future. Yeah. Dark, weird. Okay, version of Toronto.

00;59;46;02 - 00;59;48;16
Mark
I'll watch the trailer and scare myself today.

00;59;48;20 - 00;59;59;19
Sarah
It's on IMDB. If you if anybody wants to see it, I'm sure it's on YouTube. Okay. But they absolutely tear these heads of cabbage apart and pull a tiny baby out of each child.

00;59;59;19 - 01;00;01;20
Mark
How real toys are made?

01;00;02;14 - 01;00;04;00
Sarah
They don't have Julius Forceps.

01;00;04;00 - 01;00;04;10
Mark
No.

01;00;05;04 - 01;00;07;18
Sarah
And pull the babies out of the heads of cabbage.

01;00;07;22 - 01;00;16;22
Mark
Next week, April 17th, we will release episode eight. Still Waters. It's rich people. So Murdock's already upset.

01;00;16;23 - 01;00;17;07
Sarah
Check.

01;00;17;07 - 01;00;27;20
Mark
It's sporty people. So Murdoch is already upset, Jack. And it's people that Julia knows. So it's the whole Julia Society thing.

01;00;27;21 - 01;00;31;09
Sarah
Because Julia is rich. Yeah, she comes from a rich, rich background.

01;00;31;21 - 01;00;32;17
Mark
Plus Olympics.

01;00;32;17 - 01;00;51;21
Sarah
You mentioned I one of the just before we go, one of the things looked into was break a leg. Yes. You know, because you're not supposed to say good luck in the air. And it's actually a reference to horse racing and horses breaking legs. And so I just, you know, so it's better to say the opposite as kind of a tongue in cheek instead of wishing them good luck.

01;00;51;26 - 01;00;54;14
Mark
Yes. Goodbye, Captain Ahab, don't crash your boat.

01;00;54;14 - 01;01;09;25
Sarah
So I started making a list of the things that you would tell certain people. Some are telling them the opposite of what they should do in order to wish them good luck. Like racecar drivers. Like, I hope you don't crash or I hope you crash. Actually. Or swimmers like Drown.

01;01;09;29 - 01;01;14;28
Mark
Yeah, it doesn't work. It doesn't make people feel better.

01;01;15;05 - 01;01;41;29
Sarah
No, no. Oh, you're going to perform in the halftime show. I hope your boob falls out. Oh That's an old reference. Yes. Anyhow. Bye, maniacs. Bye, maniacs.

01;01;41;29 - 01;01;44;01
Mark
Are you making your own now? Yes.

01;01;45;01 - 01;01;48;08
Sarah
I have confidence that there will be something actually genuine in the episode.

01;01;48;17 - 01;01;49;10
Mark
There always is.

01;01;49;11 - 01;01;49;20
Sarah
Yeah.

01;01;50;05 - 01;01;53;28
Mark
Well, sound more interesting. It double speak.

01;01;53;28 - 01;01;58;09
Sarah
Boom, boom.