Episode 163 - Murdoch Mysteries - "Child’s Play" - Melon Whacking, Periscopes and Stolen Bicycles
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Episode 163 - Murdoch Mysteries - "Child’s Play" - Melon Whacking, Periscopes and Stolen Bicycles

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Mark
No small things with this work.

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Mark
Hey, maniac.

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Mark
Hey, maniac.

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Sarah
Welcome to Mystery Maniac.

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Mark
Mystery Maniacs is a comedy recap podcast dedicated to mystery TV each.

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Sarah
Why are you doing that?

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Mark
I don't know.

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Sarah
Dedicated to mystery TV. Each week we pick an episode of a show and talk about the murder, the mayhem, the loonies and everything else we love. I'm Sarah.

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Mark
And I am.

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Sarah
Mark, and this is a spoiler podcast. If you haven't noticed, we're going to give away who the killer is. So if you don't know, you haven't seen the show.

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Mark
Go watch it. And kids are transported to the New world. Whether or not you want them to or not, they can listen to the podcast.

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Sarah
If they can handle simulating a head wound by whacking a watermelon, they can handle a warm shower and the.

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Mark
Podcast this week, Murder Mysteries Season one Episode ten But before that, we have to once again mention next week made fun.

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Mark
Of farm.

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Mark
Nut Badland will be on the podcast.

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Sarah
Yes.

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Mark
He's already been on the podcast.

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Sarah
Well, no, we haven't really recorded it. Yes, we haven't released it yet. That'll go out on May 8th and on May 15th we are taking a break. So you have one week with no love from the media.

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Mark
It's really two weeks, but they don't know that if you're interested, I will be at Indy Comic-Con the fifth through 7th of May if you want to go. If you're an indie and you want to go to Comic-Con and see me, I'm I'll be there.

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Sarah
You'll be at the Spirit Booth.

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Mark
Yes. Table A1.

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Sarah
Well, aren't you.

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Mark
Fancy know.

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Mark
It.

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Sarah
So is there any table for that?

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Mark
No. Here we are. Artist Alley one.

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Sarah
Is that because you registered first?

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Mark
I don't know.

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Sarah
I'm first, I'm first.

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Mark
And then there will be some other stuff that we do. And then we will return on the 22nd of May.

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Sarah
It's just one Monday where there won't be any.

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Mark
Yeah, it's just one Monday and you get Annette Badland.

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Mark
Yes, we.

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Mark
Bring it back.

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Sarah
That's worth two weeks.

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Mark
Yes, I agree. She was so fantastic.

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Sarah
In the meantime, we can confirm through our inside sources that there is new episodes of Midsomer Filming as we speak. Speaking of new episodes, the UK is finally going to get new episodes of Midsummer.

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Mark
We've already seen 22. Yeah, Season 22. Sorry.

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Sarah
So if you're in the UK and you haven't seen our season 22 yet, be sure to listen to our many episodes before you listen to the regular.

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Mark
So we got all minis for the four or.

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Sarah
Listen to the mini watch The new episode and then.

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Mark
Directly like right away. Yes, stay up all night.

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Sarah
And listen to the podcast.

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Mark
Unless it's interrupted by another royal thing. Not like any royal thing is happening Saturday.

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Sarah
No, they're going to anoint Charles with the secret.

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Mark
It's weird. Did I like. I think.

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Sarah
They should oil up his whole.

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Mark
Body.

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Sarah
That's gross. Maybe that's what they usually do. You know, they put a canopy over.

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Mark
The canopy saying over.

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Sarah
So only the monarch and the Archbishop of Canterbury don't.

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Mark
Want to be.

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Sarah
There. The stern of Scone.

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Mark
The stone of Scone. Is it going to be there? I love the taste of skull if you like it.

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Sarah
Okay. So in the Terry Pratchett book, there is a Stone of Scone. And it is a scone because it's a dwarf. It's a piece of dwarf bread. Well, okay. And their bread is like rock last forever. And so I always get it confused because I think they call it the stone of Stone in those books.

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Mark
But this stone from Scotland that got stolen and re and all the stuff.

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Sarah
I think Yeah I think it is, I think it's in.

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Mark
Is probably.

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Sarah
A special chair.

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Mark
I like there was a.

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Sarah
Time somebody will have to tell us where.

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Mark
I was a younger man I was like, Am I ever going to see a. CORNISH?

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Sarah
Yeah, really? Elisabeth's going to live forever.

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Mark
And now, now, well, now I'll probably see to before I go. Yeah. Wow, That's happy topics. All right.

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Mark
Oh.

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Sarah
You're going to outlive Charles?

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Mark
I think so.

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Sarah
He's not aging as well as his mom, so I know he inherited her longevity. No, I know. I mean, I'm not wishing him dead.

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Mark
I still think the Queen mom's alive in a bottle of gin.

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Sarah
Just floating in it. And pickles, but living.

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Mark
That put.

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Sarah
Her in the lizard people anyway. So make sure you listen to the many before you watch the new episode.

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Mark
And those will be on all our socials too.

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Sarah
So you'll post links so that easy to find. The other thing that we're going to post a link to is a new Discord channel we heard about recently.

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Mark
For Cozi TV.

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Sarah
Cozi TV shows. It's not just mysteries, it's Cozi TV in general. So if you're a Discord user, it's a pretty cool place to hang out. I personally find Discord a little crazy. I can't wrap my brain.

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Mark
You got to get used to it. And if you're on Discord now and you join the discord on typewriter Mark on there.

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Sarah
On the cozy show.

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Mark
Discord on the Cozy show.

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Sarah
We don't have a discord for me. No, you.

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Mark
Don't have a discord room, Mr.. I don't think we have a need for it.

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Sarah
No. Or the mental bandwidth to know. But with it, it's like a chat room all the time.

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Mark
There's like, a chat.

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Mark
What is it people do all day? I got.

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Sarah
Stuff to.

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Mark
Do. Speaking of the subreddit, I thinking of jazzed up a bit by posting a little bit more of what we do outside of mystery maniacs. Like I'll post about the Comic-Con and stuff like that.

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Sarah
If people are interested in it, they're not. They can ignore it. Yeah, but you know, we're a community. You can talk about more than just a show there.

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Mark
Would you post Halloween update? Just like a little teaser?

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Sarah
Yeah, because.

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Mark
We're already working on Halloween.

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Sarah
We me about 20 hours a week in the garage. Yeah. Yes.

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Mark
So, so tired scares reaching the end of the semester. And we were both quite exhausted.

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Sarah
Oh, students. I love them, but I. One more person begs me for points like that.

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Mark
Like, Well, I'm not going to beg you for points. We're going to talk about child's play. Okay.

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Sarah
Can we talk about kids being abused, please? Yes.

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Mark
Okay. Hi.

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Mark
This is this is a tough episode, but we're going to do our best here.

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Sarah
I found some nuggets.

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Mark
There are really important, difficult topics in this episode.

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Sarah
We were going to gloss over.

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Mark
We are going to gloss over them like crazy.

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Sarah
Hey, home schools weren't cool. Neither are residential schools. They're not cool either. They're cruel and unusual. And aren't we glad those are done?

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Mark
Why do all pedophiles have to brush hair? Have you noticed?

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Sarah
I don't know.

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Mark
Why is it a thing?

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Sarah
Is it mostly because Murdoch's not going to show us something worse? Thank God.

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Mark
What happened? She ran into the room and go, What are you doing?

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Sarah
Watermelons. Watermelons.

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Mark
Okay.

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Sarah
There's fun stuff in this.

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Mark
Abbott is out.

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Sarah
We will dig and we will find it.

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Mark
Sure is a fancy party.

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Sarah
Yeah. So many feathers in people's hair.

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Mark
So this is originally aired on 23rd of March, 24 years for a hockey team, four years after.

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Sarah
Oh, we're not going to talk about hockey. This is tough enough. Good God, y'all, You do not want to live with this man.

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Mark
It's Mudville during hockey playoffs.

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Sarah
It's so bad.

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Mark
Oh.

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Sarah
The mood swings are something else.

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Mark
Directed by Shawn Thompson and written by Alexander Zoro. No e, z, a, r0w and Y.

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Sarah
Zerhouni is out. So county czar.

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Mark
Zerhouni czar around.

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Sarah
Me. That's what we're going with.

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Mark
Yeah.

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Sarah
So there's a party. It's a fundraiser for the Baker House, which is a home for girls. There's also a home for boys in Peterborough. How far away is Peterborough from Toronto?

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Mark
About a two hour drive.

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Sarah
Oh, that's pretty far for Charlie to have migrated.

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Mark
Yes.

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Sarah
And to find, as they say.

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Mark
Something that bothers me. So they say that they came from Quebec City. Mm hmm. And then they went to where was it then? They went somewhere else. And then they went to Toronto. And then Murdoch says he went on to Peterborough, but Peterborough is back east.

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Sarah
Well, they have a processing center, I guess, really, where they rip siblings apart and separate them without even letting them say goodbye.

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Mark
The whole point here is that there are children in England that are poor and without parents and that they're.

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Sarah
Hopefully at least they're without parents and orphans, that.

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Mark
There are people in the new.

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Sarah
World who need children.

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Mark
It's very colonial. It's just incredibly.

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Sarah
Colonial. Okay. So what is it Canada saying, hey, give us your poor kids or was it England saying, hey, take our poor kids?

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Mark
It was England saying, hey, take our poor kids, okay?

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Sarah
They send them to Australia.

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Mark
Australia and New Zealand, all sorts of.

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Sarah
Places. Yeah. So and you know, if you've ever read any dickens, it wasn't too far before this in history when a kid as young as ten could be sent to prison for hard labor.

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Mark
Yeah.

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Sarah
So they were sent to Australia and apparently Canada. Okay, so.

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Mark
So here's a fancy party.

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Mark
Yeah.

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Sarah
Rookwood is hosting the fundraiser for Calvin Baker's home, and then he gathers Flora, his wife and even his daughter, and says, Let's.

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Mark
Get these to the house. I'm going to go to work.

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Sarah
We've been here for an hour.

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Mark
An hour?

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Sarah
That's how I feel about some parties. Okay, We got to go to this thing. We got to be seen to be there. We got to shake some hands, drink, cocktail, eat about our dress. Can we go.

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Mark
Now and then? Can we go for Sarah Mercer is married to. Well, I'm okay. Let's go. But. Oh, wait a minute. I have to say goodbye to this person.

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Sarah
Every person.

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Mark
Say goodbye to this place. Goodbye to this person.

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Sarah
I just go hit the car.

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Mark
Yeah, I just know people.

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Sarah
So you're good at it. That's your superpower. It's not mine.

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Mark
I'll tell you what is it? A superpower that Rockwood and Ward Glue Factory and Tannery sign is some piece of crap.

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Sarah
They shouldn't use their own glue on those letters.

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Mark
They're falling off or falling off.

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Sarah
So, yeah, they used to boil down animals to get the collagen from tendons and bones and use it for glue. Yes. This is why you make the joke about, Oh, that old horse is going to the glue factory or whatever, because they really did that.

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Mark
And it's up.

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Sarah
Until about World War One.

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Mark
It's also horrible that like I am not a proponent of horse meat. No, but it's a lot of meat to waste.

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Sarah
It is. It really is. When there are people who are hungry. Yeah. And it's it is edible. Yeah. In a time when people needed food. Yeah. Yeah. Just don't put it on and lie about it.

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Mark
No. All the people in England know.

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Sarah
Okay, so let's get past all that. Hey, you want to have some fun about glue?

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Mark
Yes. Tell me something fun about glue.

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Sarah
Well, other than some plant based glues that were more lacquers. Yes, This kind of animal glue was really what was available until World War One. Okay. Yes. But around that time, people started figuring out other ways to make glue. Now, if I say glue, what company?

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Mark
Immediately. Right away. Yes. With the winter cow on it. Yes, I remember going.

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Sarah
Not just a cow. What is it?

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Mark
It's a milk.

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Sarah
Cow. No, it's a bull.

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Mark
Oh, it is a bull.

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Sarah
His name's Elmer.

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Mark
Always. The name is Elmer, I thought.

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Sarah
Do you know who he's married to?

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Mark
What? I know.

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Sarah
He's married.

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Mark
Who is he Married?

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Mark
You.

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Sarah
Oh, the cow.

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Mark
Elmer and Elsie. Yes. Of the glue.

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Sarah
Factory? No, Elsie of the Borden factory. Oh, Borden Dairy.

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Mark
Borden Dairy cow is married to Elmer's glue. Bull?

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Mark
Yes.

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Mark
Wow. I would not have guessed that.

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Sarah
Because they're the same company. Oh, can you guess why? And it's not that they boil down cows.

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Mark
Okay, so we have Borden, which is a food company.

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Sarah
Yes, They make milk products. Milk? Ice cream. Yeah.

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Mark
And Elmer's, which. Oh, because the horns on the bull are used now. No, I don't know. Casein casing.

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Sarah
Do you know what casein is. Not casing.

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Mark
Casein. No, I have no idea what casein.

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Sarah
Well anybody who's ever made cheese knows exactly what casein is. And so it is like rennet. Yes.

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Mark
Okay.

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Sarah
It's used to make cheese. Okay. But it also makes great glue. Oh. So it's a byproduct of the dairy. Yes. That they used to make grill.

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Mark
Smart.

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Sarah
But they didn't want to put LC on the glue because that would be confusing because people might try to drink.

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Mark
Glue.

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Sarah
So they were like, Hmm.

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Mark
So LC came first.

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Sarah
LC was first and then and then Alma And then they have a calf. I Oh my gosh. Oh, in the fifties they had coloring books and birthday party guides and Elmer and Elsie and their calf went on vacation and met other people and.

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Mark
Wait a minute. Yeah, it was cow themed birthday parties.

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Sarah
Yeah.

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Mark
Okay. I want to. Cathy. Birthday party.

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Sarah
You got it. You got it. Was funny. Is the front of it has Elmer and Elsie and their cast like around a table with the birthday cake on it and one little blond haired girl like, what are they going to do to her? It's her birthday party. I think they're like, Let's celebrate the human.

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Mark
How did they ever talk?

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Sarah
Oh, yeah.

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Mark
Oh, my gosh.

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Sarah
But Elsie always wears an apron.

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Mark
Okay.

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Sarah
To cover her.

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Mark
Udders.

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Sarah
Look, I mean, come on, You can't have the other show in here.

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Mark
But yet she has cleavage.

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Mark
It never look at Elmer's glue again.

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Sarah
She has cleavage. Is cleavage. So she must, like, wear like, a push up udder for the top two. I don't know how that works. I don't know how that works.

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Mark
Push up other bras, baby. The name of it.

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Sarah
So I know, I know, but I still don't know. I understand why they didn't want to put LC on it, but it's it pumps it, the casein comes from milk and that comes from a female cow. Why did they put a bull on it?

00;14;51;28 - 00;14;52;19
Mark
I don't know.

00;14;52;19 - 00;14;58;22
Sarah
He doesn't make milk now. I don't want to know about his milk. No. And they don't make glue from that. No.

00;14;58;22 - 00;14;59;20
Mark
So maybe the.

00;14;59;20 - 00;15;14;19
Sarah
Horn I think. No, I think it's just. Well, that would be cruel, wouldn't it. No, I think it's just that they didn't they didn't trust people to tell the difference between like Elsie and Clara Bell, you know, like to do that to girl cows. So now they just gave her husband.

00;15;14;25 - 00;15;15;25
Mark
Oh, okay.

00;15;16;09 - 00;15;32;21
Sarah
And Ellmers was successful right away because their biggest competitor at the time was a company called Le Page that made permanent glue out of fish. Awful. Wow. So if your choices were fish awful, that apparently smelled like fish. Awful. And Elmer's.

00;15;33;03 - 00;15;33;17
Mark
Farmers.

00;15;33;21 - 00;15;34;01
Mark
Yeah.

00;15;34;12 - 00;15;35;21
Sarah
And it's still around.

00;15;35;21 - 00;15;36;15
Mark
There we go.

00;15;36;17 - 00;15;50;21
Sarah
Yeah. And I also learned about meat glue, but we're not going to talk about that. No, no, no, no. So record goes back to work after mom molesting his adopted daughter and gets the shovel to the head after he says, What are.

00;15;50;21 - 00;15;52;23
Mark
You doing by someone in a black cloak.

00;15;52;24 - 00;15;53;05
Sarah
Which is.

00;15;53;05 - 00;15;54;03
Mark
Holding a crossbow?

00;15;54;03 - 00;15;55;14
Sarah
Oh, no, no, no, no.

00;15;55;15 - 00;15;56;06
Mark
That's the next.

00;15;56;06 - 00;15;59;06
Sarah
That's the next episode. But you may as well say, Oh, it's you.

00;15;59;06 - 00;16;02;08
Mark
Yeah. What are you doing here? Yes.

00;16;02;17 - 00;16;03;17
Sarah
And then Gronk.

00;16;03;24 - 00;16;04;10
Mark
Whammo.

00;16;04;16 - 00;16;10;24
Sarah
He gets whack a doodle right on the head. Meanwhile, it's a good fake injury, by the way, when they show the big cut on his.

00;16;10;24 - 00;16;15;13
Mark
This is good job. It is a good job. Now on to our next show. Police perverts.

00;16;17;15 - 00;16;18;01
Mark
What are they.

00;16;18;01 - 00;16;19;14
Sarah
Doing? Periscope?

00;16;19;21 - 00;16;20;24
Mark
What are they doing?

00;16;20;25 - 00;16;25;07
Sarah
I don't know. But Henry's on to them because he pops up from the other side of the wall.

00;16;25;17 - 00;16;27;06
Mark
So Murdoch And.

00;16;27;20 - 00;16;28;19
Sarah
They're just trying.

00;16;28;19 - 00;16;31;21
Mark
It out. Testing out Murdoch's new device, the.

00;16;31;21 - 00;16;32;02
Sarah
Circum.

00;16;32;02 - 00;16;32;15
Mark
Scope.

00;16;32;15 - 00;16;35;12
Sarah
The circum scope, which sounds like a medical procedure.

00;16;35;27 - 00;16;37;24
Mark
Which includes the.

00;16;37;25 - 00;16;39;24
Sarah
Bracket reads opera glasses.

00;16;40;19 - 00;16;42;16
Mark
Which is just so great.

00;16;42;17 - 00;16;48;15
Sarah
Murdoch's reaction is like, well, I'll I'll make sure I get to.

00;16;48;19 - 00;16;51;03
Mark
Thank God this scene is here because.

00;16;51;03 - 00;16;52;10
Sarah
It necessary.

00;16;52;17 - 00;16;58;08
Mark
Necessary and then George better like George is now in a carry on.

00;16;58;14 - 00;17;00;15
Sarah
Yes he's like, Oh God.

00;17;00;24 - 00;17;01;14
Mark
Yeah.

00;17;01;19 - 00;17;06;25
Sarah
Expect his eyeballs to come out of the top of the periscope and bulge out and then go back.

00;17;07;02 - 00;17;09;08
Mark
Gustav Woman is okay.

00;17;09;29 - 00;17;13;27
Sarah
She's undressed. She may as well be in her bra, beaten out a rug.

00;17;13;27 - 00;17;18;10
Mark
What is she doing in the middle of the day? Being on a rug outside their window.

00;17;18;10 - 00;17;24;00
Sarah
Don't want to get dust on your dress like this. So you do it your underwear, don't you house clean in your underwear?

00;17;24;00 - 00;17;25;12
Mark
No, I do not.

00;17;27;10 - 00;17;29;10
Sarah
Murdoch did not invent the periscope.

00;17;29;11 - 00;17;30;23
Mark
No, I don't think.

00;17;30;24 - 00;17;49;23
Sarah
And it wasn't even new at this time. In 1895. It wasn't even new. Do you want to guess how old Periscopes were by 1895 when they were actually invented? I would say, and I'm going to remove from the equation any ancient Greek invention those that are rumored. Okay, So it's not that.

00;17;49;25 - 00;18;03;13
Mark
Then I'm going to say that the French era, French intellectuals in the 18th century were obsessed with optics. So I would think that maybe them maybe Galileo, maybe.

00;18;03;15 - 00;18;13;06
Sarah
Those aren't bad guesses. Yeah, it is a French person, but it's in the 1850s. Okay, but 40 years before this. Yes. At first I thought it was a woman.

00;18;13;09 - 00;18;13;20
Mark
Oh.

00;18;14;00 - 00;18;20;08
Sarah
Because this French person's name is Hippo, right? Hippo lady? Yes. Each IPO.

00;18;20;09 - 00;18;21;05
Mark
Hippolyta.

00;18;21;07 - 00;18;25;15
Sarah
Hippolyta. Maybe Hippolyta. Mary Davy.

00;18;25;15 - 00;18;27;08
Mark
Okay, so that's clearly a dude.

00;18;27;17 - 00;18;28;22
Sarah
They can't see you do that.

00;18;28;22 - 00;18;29;04
Mark
But yeah.

00;18;29;19 - 00;18;37;12
Sarah
Roll your eyes and put your hands up in the air. He designed the first exemplar of a periscope specifically for use in a submarine.

00;18;37;12 - 00;18;39;08
Mark
Yes, because they had submarines.

00;18;39;08 - 00;18;40;28
Sarah
Way earlier than you think they did A.

00;18;40;29 - 00;18;48;28
Mark
Crewed submarine? Yes. In the civil death traps underwater. They were like, Let's go to Mars. You're not coming back. Yeah.

00;18;48;29 - 00;19;14;26
Sarah
Vehicle kind of submarines. Yeah. So the the the idea of putting mirrors at opposite ends of a tube so that you could see up or around was already around. But he put together the first periscope specifically for vertical and extending so it extended and that's a big deal it's got to extend. Otherwise you end up carrying around the circum scope, which is like three feet long and you look like an idiot, right.

00;19;15;01 - 00;19;17;19
Mark
Sort of like they do later on. It's a fact.

00;19;18;07 - 00;19;28;00
Sarah
Pretty much. But. But this is. Oh what is it. Chekhov's. What. Chekhov's gun. Yes. Chekhov's Second Scope because you know they've got to use it. I have an episode.

00;19;28;00 - 00;19;30;01
Mark
Later on called Chekhov Circuit.

00;19;30;10 - 00;19;30;27
Mark
Yes.

00;19;32;02 - 00;19;38;28
Sarah
They've got to use it. Yep. So they find records body, he's been hit over the head, they find the shovel.

00;19;39;03 - 00;19;44;16
Mark
So on his name to be rocketed. It's rock. I don't, I don't know why but I want to call.

00;19;44;16 - 00;19;52;20
Sarah
Them It's a BlackBerry. Yes. A stick rock wood. That's what their logo should be instead of that poorly hodgepodge sign that they've got.

00;19;52;20 - 00;19;56;02
Mark
Well, and then what the most useless character of all time.

00;19;56;02 - 00;20;03;27
Sarah
Yeah, he's really unnecessary. Yes. So when they find him though, and Julie is there though her hands are covered in blood. Of course.

00;20;05;01 - 00;20;06;10
Mark
Now let's let.

00;20;06;16 - 00;20;09;04
Sarah
That place that pen where the body is.

00;20;09;04 - 00;20;12;27
Mark
Absolutely clear. That is a foot deep of manure.

00;20;12;29 - 00;20;25;11
Sarah
Oh, at least at least you cram all those horses in. They're supposed to be old, knackered horses there. They're crowded, they're not in stables, they're not separated like they're used to. They're going to be pooping all over the place.

00;20;25;13 - 00;20;34;09
Mark
People are like, Oh, look at this barn. It's so beautiful. We should refurbish it. It will smell like kalibo forever. For ever and.

00;20;34;09 - 00;20;41;26
Sarah
Ever. And so would that place. But shoe prints have prints, whatever farm they would be in, Manure, not in nice dirt.

00;20;41;26 - 00;20;43;14
Mark
Are giant piles of beans.

00;20;45;12 - 00;20;50;13
Mark
It's just. Maybe it's a robbery gone wrong. I know.

00;20;51;08 - 00;20;54;12
Mark
And also, they could not have found prints like footprints.

00;20;54;16 - 00;20;55;00
Sarah
No.

00;20;55;00 - 00;20;55;18
Mark
No way.

00;20;55;25 - 00;20;58;05
Sarah
Now there's already people walking all over the place.

00;20;58;06 - 00;21;06;26
Mark
Never mind the fact they mentioned rendering VAT, but no one talks about the horrific smell that would be permeating. Oh, it was.

00;21;06;27 - 00;21;07;05
Sarah
So.

00;21;07;05 - 00;21;14;25
Mark
Bad. It would be every so bad. Okay, but I have a question about the night with Rockwood. He sees a clock. Traeger?

00;21;15;03 - 00;21;16;27
Sarah
Mm hmm. Messing with the horses.

00;21;17;09 - 00;21;18;27
Mark
What? Why does he go down.

00;21;18;28 - 00;21;21;07
Sarah
To stop the person from messing with the horses?

00;21;21;09 - 00;21;28;08
Mark
Okay, If Flora didn't. If Flora's the killer. If Flora went there to kill him, what is she.

00;21;28;08 - 00;21;32;06
Sarah
Doing? Making her way to his office door. But through a lot of horses and poop.

00;21;32;13 - 00;21;39;00
Mark
Okay. Is she going to go upstairs and kill him? Yeah. Okay. Why didn't you just go upstairs and kill him?

00;21;39;00 - 00;21;45;26
Sarah
She doesn't get there. He gets to her first because she's trying to weave her way between a bunch of horse butts. Yeah, there's a lot of horses.

00;21;45;26 - 00;21;47;06
Mark
There are a lot of horses.

00;21;47;15 - 00;22;00;13
Sarah
I'm impressed with how many horses they fit in there, actually. And cameras and actors and everything. They really make it look crowded with horses. Yes, they're good horses to not be all kicking each other and stuff. That would have probably been kind of a dangerous scene to shoot. Oh, really?

00;22;00;14 - 00;22;06;28
Mark
I agree. You know what? I don't like what I hate him. First of all, he says we're fraternity brothers, okay?

00;22;07;00 - 00;22;07;20
Sarah
And then he.

00;22;07;29 - 00;22;12;07
Mark
Okay, I have to explain it to our friends in America.

00;22;12;07 - 00;22;12;18
Sarah
Other place.

00;22;12;20 - 00;22;16;08
Mark
When he says fraternity brothers, he means they're Masons.

00;22;16;09 - 00;22;20;12
Sarah
Are not college fraternity brothers.

00;22;20;12 - 00;22;25;19
Mark
No, our fraternities are not a thing in Canada and they're not a thing in England.

00;22;25;20 - 00;22;31;29
Sarah
Okay. So he's saying that they're both Masons. Yes. This whole I heard backlash against him then. I thought they were frat burrows.

00;22;32;00 - 00;22;51;13
Mark
Oh, no. This incredibly weird Greek system of fraternities that is prevalent in America that I thought. I thought quite honestly, as a child, as I probably saw Animal House too young, that the whole thing was a joke. Like they couldn't possibly be doing me Stupid thing. Yeah.

00;22;51;19 - 00;23;00;27
Sarah
Living in a college town where three quarters of the fraternity houses are on a cease and desist right now. Yeah, Yeah, they're just like that. It's. They're worse than.

00;23;00;27 - 00;23;02;26
Mark
That. It is literally insane.

00;23;02;29 - 00;23;04;03
Sarah
That's okay, because.

00;23;04;03 - 00;23;05;28
Mark
That's what he means. That's what he means.

00;23;05;29 - 00;23;08;15
Sarah
They wound up conquering the world of it. He said.

00;23;08;19 - 00;23;20;12
Mark
Instead. Who knew we would conquer the world of adhesives? I hate to say it that way. We're the kings of glue.

00;23;20;12 - 00;23;24;05
Mark
I don't really call anything weird. Oh, but that wasn't argument.

00;23;24;25 - 00;23;25;16
Mark
Yeah.

00;23;26;05 - 00;23;27;10
Mark
It's just. Or a.

00;23;27;10 - 00;23;29;10
Sarah
Boy. We see volunteers that.

00;23;29;20 - 00;23;32;21
Mark
And then Murdock rides on the sidewalk and.

00;23;33;11 - 00;23;35;08
Sarah
It really bothers you. And he rides on one side.

00;23;35;10 - 00;23;37;06
Mark
Bothers me when he rides on this.

00;23;37;07 - 00;23;38;27
Sarah
You know why he rides on the sidewalk?

00;23;39;11 - 00;23;41;22
Mark
Mostly because the road would be covered in poop.

00;23;43;16 - 00;23;56;19
Sarah
Yes. Also, in reality, the road is covered in tarmac and they don't want to stone that and show that. So they have to make them ride on the sidewalk. Yes. Why is Baker's house for Girls called Baker distributing house?

00;23;56;19 - 00;23;57;09
Mark
I don't.

00;23;57;11 - 00;23;59;22
Sarah
Know. Is it because they distribute girls?

00;23;59;22 - 00;24;00;28
Mark
I guess so.

00;24;01;06 - 00;24;15;29
Sarah
It really bothers me. Distributing house really bothers me when Flora says that her husband says they should acquire a girl. It really bothers me not adopt a daughter. Adopt one of those poor orphans. We should acquire a girl.

00;24;15;29 - 00;24;16;18
Mark
Yes.

00;24;16;22 - 00;24;23;01
Sarah
Oh, okay. It's out of my system. I don't want to talk about it anymore. Flora's dress has a lot of weird buttons.

00;24;23;05 - 00;24;26;28
Mark
Wow. And why are there such giant fake paintings in there?

00;24;27;18 - 00;24;34;08
Sarah
That's a hard. It's hard to set dress for a house that's supposed to be really wealthy and full of useless tchotchkes stuff.

00;24;34;08 - 00;24;37;20
Mark
There was some trouble at the house. No crap.

00;24;37;20 - 00;24;43;10
Sarah
Really. But that's not the trouble they're talking about. No, but. Okay. Can we go back to the button for.

00;24;43;11 - 00;24;45;03
Mark
A second Avenue? Unfortunate note.

00;24;45;09 - 00;24;47;10
Mark
Well, what is.

00;24;47;10 - 00;24;49;07
Mark
It? No, the small things with.

00;24;53;08 - 00;24;54;06
Mark
They do have trouble.

00;24;54;23 - 00;24;56;14
Sarah
They do have trouble finding garment.

00;25;00;10 - 00;25;01;27
Mark
Oh, I'm a horrible.

00;25;02;10 - 00;25;15;23
Sarah
Horrible person. Okay, Before Flora goes into her morning clothing, before she's in black. Yes, she has. On this burnt orange dress. Yes. That has buttons and utterly random places.

00;25;15;23 - 00;25;17;26
Mark
And why isn't she in black already?

00;25;17;27 - 00;25;18;27
Sarah
That's too fast.

00;25;18;27 - 00;25;19;19
Mark
Too fast?

00;25;19;22 - 00;25;20;01
Sarah
Yes.

00;25;20;16 - 00;25;22;11
Mark
She's happy. Yeah.

00;25;23;04 - 00;25;30;13
Sarah
It has buttons like around the armholes, as if the sleeves button on which. Okay, she.

00;25;30;13 - 00;25;31;21
Mark
Could rip them off and.

00;25;32;07 - 00;25;34;13
Sarah
Throw like breakaway sleeve.

00;25;34;14 - 00;25;36;23
Mark
Breakaway wrestling style.

00;25;36;23 - 00;25;45;10
Sarah
Maybe she should have done that the night before. Maybe. But then there's also just like, buttons decorating the pants and they're just like, I don't get.

00;25;45;10 - 00;25;58;25
Mark
It. Once we if we continue on in Murdock, the woman who does the costumes is very active on Instagram. Yeah, she does the costumes now we will try to get her on the show.

00;25;59;02 - 00;26;14;23
Sarah
So all I could think I'm sorry to go on about it, but all I could think was that the sleeves actually do button off of the dress to make it maybe more wearable so you can wear it with and without the sleeves, so you can wear a blouse underneath it that would show out, right? Maybe there's a different color sleeve you could add to it.

00;26;15;00 - 00;26;18;27
Sarah
And then they just put the other buttons on to distract you from those buttons.

00;26;19;01 - 00;26;21;06
Mark
Pay no attention to the buttons.

00;26;21;06 - 00;26;32;20
Sarah
Like I know there's a zipper on your fly, but I added five or six extras around the pants so nobody would notice that one zipper. I don't get the logic of that, but. Okay.

00;26;32;22 - 00;26;37;16
Mark
Murdock tries to be a human here, not a robot. Sorry about your father. I'm not.

00;26;37;22 - 00;26;38;04
Mark
Yeah.

00;26;38;15 - 00;26;44;20
Sarah
First of all, not my dad. Second of all, really bad, dude. Third of all, good riddance to bad trash.

00;26;44;20 - 00;26;46;22
Mark
We only say goodbye when we're ready to.

00;26;48;07 - 00;26;51;10
Sarah
I wanted to say goodbye to him a long time ago.

00;26;51;23 - 00;26;57;04
Mark
Next, there's a close up of a woman buying a potato just one. One potato.

00;26;57;04 - 00;27;03;14
Sarah
Potato. That's all she needs. You don't buy more potatoes when you need, or it turns into our potato bean scare the other day.

00;27;03;19 - 00;27;06;23
Mark
Had eyes and we returned to the morgue of flirting.

00;27;08;06 - 00;27;13;09
Sarah
No, it's the morgue of lacking. Well, Whac-A-Mole and Whac-A-Mole.

00;27;14;20 - 00;27;15;02
Mark
That's a.

00;27;15;02 - 00;27;17;07
Mark
Lot of watermelons that get destroyed.

00;27;17;07 - 00;27;19;03
Sarah
Here. Whacked. Wasted watermelons?

00;27;19;03 - 00;27;19;17
Mark
Yes.

00;27;20;11 - 00;27;25;03
Sarah
Those watermelons are perfectly good. I'm sure there are constables who would have liked to have had a piece of water.

00;27;25;06 - 00;27;29;21
Mark
Boy, all that bicycle riding has created big muscles for me to touch.

00;27;30;24 - 00;27;42;01
Sarah
Not that big. I can stand like this for very long. The killer is five four. So you said you don't understand how they could have got the footprint, the. The shoe impressions, but.

00;27;42;02 - 00;27;45;00
Mark
Well, just because the horses would have trampled them, the horse.

00;27;45;08 - 00;27;54;27
Sarah
The horses would have trampled them. Yeah, but otherwise, I think it's because they were dainty Wesley prints that would have probably sort of stood out.

00;27;55;01 - 00;27;55;19
Mark
Yes.

00;27;57;23 - 00;28;02;06
Sarah
Like, they may as well have had, like, little rubber ducks on them or something. You know, like.

00;28;02;10 - 00;28;05;00
Mark
Now, Murdock is a good boss here with.

00;28;05;00 - 00;28;05;19
Sarah
Crabtree.

00;28;05;20 - 00;28;08;08
Mark
Henry. Henry's having trouble with the footprint.

00;28;08;11 - 00;28;10;26
Sarah
Oh, yes. They're not using plaster.

00;28;10;27 - 00;28;14;06
Mark
No, they're using. What are they using? Like, flowers?

00;28;14;07 - 00;28;25;05
Sarah
No, some kind of resin. They mix it up and heat it out where maybe they're using the glue. You know, a crabtrees like on it. In this episode, he finds the shovel.

00;28;25;11 - 00;28;25;29
Mark
He does.

00;28;25;29 - 00;28;29;09
Sarah
He figures out the ten day rotation of horse stealing.

00;28;29;09 - 00;28;31;24
Mark
The worst game of chess ever.

00;28;33;03 - 00;28;33;11
Mark
Well, I'll.

00;28;33;11 - 00;28;34;05
Mark
Get to that.

00;28;34;05 - 00;28;35;07
Sarah
He's on it.

00;28;35;10 - 00;28;44;08
Mark
So we also have what I think is the best part of the episode here, when the kids totally own the officer.

00;28;44;17 - 00;28;49;08
Sarah
Absolutely. And they would, too. Yeah. They just take off and they steal Murdock's bike.

00;28;49;09 - 00;28;50;11
Mark
And they buy George.

00;28;50;22 - 00;28;52;05
Mark
And invite George.

00;28;53;20 - 00;28;57;22
Sarah
These are kids off the streets, Mark. These are Ruffians Lords name.

00;28;59;00 - 00;29;01;21
Mark
He's like, Oh, good. Got my bike.

00;29;01;22 - 00;29;05;01
Mark
Why does Murdock have Coptic boxes in his office?

00;29;05;10 - 00;29;06;24
Sarah
Why not? Why not?

00;29;06;25 - 00;29;13;08
Mark
Weird, weird, weird. And then we have Breckin Reed being. Wow.

00;29;14;01 - 00;29;16;15
Sarah
Somebody from a Dickens novel over top.

00;29;16;16 - 00;29;20;19
Mark
These are public trash. Have you ever been to the East and felt.

00;29;21;21 - 00;29;23;00
Sarah
These kids are in.

00;29;23;07 - 00;29;42;09
Mark
Bernardo Homes? So Bernardo Homes are started in England. They're all over the Commonwealth. They're part of this network. What's weird is the word Bernardo, because in Canada, he's a well-known serial killer. Now it's not the same guy, but that name in Canada. Yeah, especially southern Ontario.

00;29;42;10 - 00;29;47;25
Sarah
Well, I would hope a serial killer didn't found a home for wayward children and it became a network.

00;29;47;25 - 00;29;49;17
Mark
Bad enough what Paul Bernardo.

00;29;49;17 - 00;29;49;28
Mark
Did.

00;29;50;15 - 00;30;03;08
Sarah
They are distributing houses, by the way. So Crabtree and Murdoch are a good team in this episode. I agree. When they go to Gorman's door and knock. Yeah, well, I guess he's not home. Yeah. And then they just stand there.

00;30;03;08 - 00;30;05;00
Mark
They do the pretend walk away.

00;30;05;14 - 00;30;06;11
Sarah
Stomp, stomp.

00;30;06;11 - 00;30;10;17
Mark
And they don't have to say, okay, we're going to do this year. Like, that's good writing, too.

00;30;10;18 - 00;30;18;25
Sarah
Yeah, they just pause. Yeah. And he comes out and they grab him, and he is. He's diminutive, but he's not he. But he's not. Five. Four.

00;30;19;02 - 00;30;20;03
Mark
No, no, no.

00;30;20;03 - 00;30;28;15
Sarah
And he doesn't have a little rubber wellies, but he is living it up. He is because he's blackmailing his boss. Yep. But that gravy train has hit the station.

00;30;28;26 - 00;30;35;18
Mark
You could get genders glanders in here, he says in the interrogation room. What glanders.

00;30;35;20 - 00;30;36;29
Sarah
Is like Glandular fever.

00;30;37;05 - 00;30;54;11
Mark
Is an infectious disease is caused by a bacterium. Burkholder Mallia when people can get the disease. Glanders is primarily a disease affecting horses. It also affects donkeys, mules and can naturally be contracted by other animals, such as goats, dogs and cats.

00;30;54;17 - 00;30;58;26
Sarah
So is he trying to insinuate that all the policemen smell like horses?

00;30;58;27 - 00;30;59;11
Mark
Yeah.

00;30;59;19 - 00;31;03;09
Sarah
Kind of. So it's invisible manure and they're tracking it around?

00;31;03;10 - 00;31;03;24
Mark
Yeah.

00;31;04;13 - 00;31;09;06
Mark
He totally insults the police station here because it's not. I was at the opera.

00;31;09;10 - 00;31;10;13
Sarah
He's fancy, man.

00;31;10;18 - 00;31;22;20
Mark
And rotten house, which was an actual place. The Rasen House Hotel. It was located at King in York, which is, of course, now King in York is all giant, huge building skyscrapers.

00;31;22;21 - 00;31;23;21
Sarah
Yeah. Fancy copper.

00;31;23;22 - 00;31;27;07
Mark
I used to go in that neighborhood. Well, I used to work in the neighborhood, so.

00;31;27;09 - 00;31;36;18
Sarah
And then we get to find out that the boy that the valet claims to have seen and the other people have referred to. And that didn't bite Crabtree, but probably stole Murdock's bike.

00;31;36;19 - 00;31;37;03
Mark
No, he.

00;31;37;06 - 00;31;41;14
Sarah
Is his brother, Charlie. Yes. What do you think of this kid's accent?

00;31;41;18 - 00;31;42;03
Mark
Oh.

00;31;42;23 - 00;31;42;28
Mark
It's.

00;31;44;08 - 00;31;47;18
Sarah
I think. You think he watched a little bit too much Oliver Twist.

00;31;47;18 - 00;31;49;08
Mark
I think he watched a little too much.

00;31;49;08 - 00;31;49;28
Sarah
11 point.

00;31;50;16 - 00;31;52;14
Mark
Oh. I got you.

00;31;52;14 - 00;31;55;02
Sarah
Canny to make. British pudding. Yeah.

00;31;55;28 - 00;32;06;00
Mark
It's hard to be a child actor. I think the child actors in this episode do really well. Yes, but he's a little like I think him and Brackett Reed are going to have a fistfight.

00;32;06;01 - 00;32;06;17
Mark
I know.

00;32;07;12 - 00;32;15;25
Sarah
Well, the kid says he's going to take the hide off of Bracken Reed or something like that. But Brandon Bracken Reed mentally is suddenly nine again.

00;32;15;27 - 00;32;17;12
Mark
Oh, Apple go.

00;32;17;26 - 00;32;26;28
Sarah
You and your flat cap. Yeah. So Murdoch figures out the boys robbed Rookwood after he died, but they didn't kill him. No. Right. They swarm him.

00;32;26;28 - 00;32;30;01
Mark
Ah. Shoot. Are you sure they didn't kill him? Bracken reads like.

00;32;30;04 - 00;32;42;06
Sarah
This. You know, they're street urchins. They're bad filth. Are you sure that they probably did it? They were probably stacked three high. We're in a long overcoat. Yes, And they did it. You want something? Five, four. It's probably three urchins stacked.

00;32;42;06 - 00;32;43;22
Mark
High in an overcoat.

00;32;43;23 - 00;32;45;10
Sarah
Carrying a shovel. It was them.

00;32;45;18 - 00;32;46;05
Mark
Whammo.

00;32;46;10 - 00;32;56;20
Sarah
Like a watermelon. No, they just swarmed them like cockroaches and took away all of his valuables. But they didn't kill.

00;32;56;20 - 00;32;57;28
Mark
Him in my.

00;32;58;03 - 00;32;58;11
Mark
Mind.

00;32;58;13 - 00;33;00;06
Sarah
Pies from above.

00;33;00;06 - 00;33;04;02
Mark
Yeah. And then, like, an hour gone.

00;33;05;02 - 00;33;07;27
Mark
Murdoch figures out the horses.

00;33;07;27 - 00;33;10;12
Sarah
There were some horses and shoes, and they shouldn't have.

00;33;10;15 - 00;33;17;26
Mark
They shouldn't have had shoes because. Who shoes? The horse that's going to the back. So what goes down with that?

00;33;18;02 - 00;33;19;13
Sarah
Not the vet.

00;33;19;23 - 00;33;25;14
Mark
Yes. And what goes. Yeah. We do that. But it wasn't me. Even though it's still going on.

00;33;25;17 - 00;33;30;29
Sarah
I know about it. I make money off of it, but it wasn't my idea and I haven't done anything to stop it.

00;33;30;29 - 00;33;31;21
Mark
And we get.

00;33;31;22 - 00;33;40;07
Sarah
So I'm not at fault. Yeah. Oh, and we involve kids in doing it. Yeah, but I never talked to him or knew about it. The children were.

00;33;40;07 - 00;33;40;24
Mark
All his.

00;33;41;04 - 00;33;44;12
Sarah
Record. Like the children? Yeah. Yeah, we know all about that.

00;33;44;23 - 00;33;51;26
Mark
Okay, let's talk about these chess pieces. Okay, so this is to imply that George is smarter than the average bear.

00;33;51;29 - 00;33;52;14
Sarah
Mm hmm.

00;33;52;16 - 00;33;58;23
Mark
And it does a great job. Mm. Right. Because George and Henry could easily become Keystone Cops.

00;33;58;23 - 00;33;59;10
Sarah
Oh, yeah.

00;33;59;17 - 00;34;00;13
Mark
And they do.

00;34;01;02 - 00;34;01;23
Sarah
Sometimes.

00;34;01;24 - 00;34;03;15
Mark
Sometimes. But this is.

00;34;03;15 - 00;34;12;11
Sarah
He's got a map of the city, and he's got the chess pieces, and he's marked out all of the horse stuff over the last few months. Yeah, on the map.

00;34;12;28 - 00;34;22;05
Mark
Okay. If you were to represent horse thefts. Horse thefts using chess pieces. Mm hmm. What pieces would you use?

00;34;22;06 - 00;34;25;25
Sarah
I would start with tonight. But there are more thefts than there are knights.

00;34;25;25 - 00;34;31;11
Mark
Yes, but. So there are. There's 13 white pieces in the original shot and one black.

00;34;31;25 - 00;34;34;10
Sarah
That represents the glue factory and tannery.

00;34;34;10 - 00;34;35;16
Mark
Which is a pawn.

00;34;35;17 - 00;34;37;05
Sarah
Yeah, I would bet it's black.

00;34;37;14 - 00;34;38;00
Mark
I would have.

00;34;38;10 - 00;34;46;02
Sarah
Where are you? Do you care that much about which piece he used? The fact that it's a different color to represent the factory versus all the thefts, I think is more important.

00;34;46;04 - 00;34;48;20
Mark
There is an Easter egg in this.

00;34;48;21 - 00;34;49;27
Sarah
Oh, okay.

00;34;49;28 - 00;34;54;01
Mark
What are the pieces in a chess set?

00;34;54;03 - 00;34;55;22
Sarah
There's all the royalty. Yeah.

00;34;55;23 - 00;34;57;16
Mark
Okay, so there's the king.

00;34;57;24 - 00;35;02;18
Sarah
King and the bishop. And then the pawns And the castle.

00;35;02;18 - 00;35;06;15
Mark
And the castle. And what's the castle? Usually represented by a castle.

00;35;06;16 - 00;35;07;02
Sarah
A turret.

00;35;07;02 - 00;35;07;14
Mark
Like a.

00;35;07;21 - 00;35;08;06
Sarah
Tower?

00;35;08;07 - 00;35;12;10
Mark
Yeah, A tower? Yeah. Did you notice where the only tower is?

00;35;12;11 - 00;35;13;29
Sarah
No. Is it? We're seeing Tower.

00;35;14;04 - 00;35;15;14
Mark
Where? See, in Tower.

00;35;15;16 - 00;35;18;17
Sarah
Oh, my gosh. Are you sure you're not wearing.

00;35;18;17 - 00;35;19;14
Mark
Absolutely.

00;35;19;16 - 00;35;25;24
Sarah
No, no, no, no, no. You didn't let me finish. Are you sure you're not wearing your foil hat? Because. Wow, that is conspiracy, are you?

00;35;25;28 - 00;35;29;22
Mark
Clearly Right on. We're on the shore of Toronto.

00;35;29;23 - 00;35;31;10
Sarah
I'm impressed that.

00;35;31;10 - 00;35;35;15
Mark
Out on the western side of the shore of Toronto, you're.

00;35;35;15 - 00;35;39;07
Sarah
Not giving them a bunch of credit that they don't deserve. Are you sure?

00;35;39;10 - 00;35;45;26
Mark
If they did it by luck, it's amazing. But there is a tower chess piece where the second tower is.

00;35;45;26 - 00;35;46;29
Sarah
That's cool. If they did.

00;35;46;29 - 00;35;50;09
Mark
It. Yeah. Yeah. We'll have to put a picture of it in the in the.

00;35;50;15 - 00;35;51;12
Sarah
If if they didn't.

00;35;51;12 - 00;35;53;19
Mark
How could you not do it on purpose.

00;35;53;21 - 00;35;54;15
Sarah
I don't.

00;35;54;15 - 00;35;55;15
Mark
Know if they.

00;35;55;15 - 00;36;10;01
Sarah
Didn't do it on purpose. That that's like numerology shape you're coming up with over there. You can bleep me on that. Like there was a two and a five. So obviously that means 52 and that's how many weeks of the year there are. And so they must have thought.

00;36;10;21 - 00;36;10;27
Mark
That it.

00;36;10;27 - 00;36;14;28
Sarah
Was going to be one year until there was another half step. Why is it every ten days?

00;36;14;28 - 00;36;15;14
Mark
I don't.

00;36;15;14 - 00;36;16;10
Sarah
Know. Okay.

00;36;16;11 - 00;36;30;07
Mark
But George figures out where the next two possible could be, but doesn't do the last part. Which is it me in these shows to show that he's coming along, but not there yet? Yeah.

00;36;30;17 - 00;36;33;07
Sarah
The detector is one step simpler than to plan.

00;36;33;11 - 00;36;34;08
Mark
Have to finish it.

00;36;34;08 - 00;36;36;13
Sarah
What is the barn joke in that scene?

00;36;36;14 - 00;36;37;01
Mark
The barn?

00;36;37;11 - 00;36;48;12
Sarah
He says there's two barns that haven't been hit yet, so they must be the next target. And they're like barn. And he says, Barn. And they're like, Barn. Oh, he's a stable fine.

00;36;48;16 - 00;36;49;09
Mark
It's because.

00;36;49;10 - 00;36;50;15
Sarah
He say barn funny.

00;36;50;19 - 00;36;51;00
Mark
Because he's.

00;36;51;00 - 00;36;51;23
Sarah
Franklin.

00;36;51;24 - 00;36;53;13
Mark
Crack. Reed says Barn funny.

00;36;53;17 - 00;36;56;15
Sarah
Oh, okay. Because he says it's a barn.

00;36;56;15 - 00;36;57;02
Mark
Burn.

00;36;57;04 - 00;36;58;27
Sarah
Like a baby. Yeah, a barn.

00;36;58;27 - 00;37;00;27
Mark
Yeah. It's Bracken Reed that says barn.

00;37;00;27 - 00;37;03;22
Sarah
Funny. Well, when they catch Charlie Bracken, Reed calls.

00;37;04;01 - 00;37;06;00
Mark
Well, they use Chekhov's Periscope to do.

00;37;06;01 - 00;37;08;20
Sarah
Yes, Bracken Reed calls them a two bit tea.

00;37;09;02 - 00;37;10;22
Mark
Because a moto rag, too.

00;37;10;27 - 00;37;13;02
Sarah
Yeah, but you know why he calls them tea leaf?

00;37;13;07 - 00;37;13;25
Mark
Because he's a.

00;37;13;25 - 00;37;14;12
Sarah
Thief.

00;37;14;19 - 00;37;15;16
Mark
It's rhyming.

00;37;15;16 - 00;37;20;23
Sarah
Slang. Rhyming slang. Right. So I went looking for other slang of that era for thieves.

00;37;20;23 - 00;37;21;07
Mark
Okay.

00;37;21;09 - 00;37;27;01
Sarah
And I found two really good ones. Okay. Are you ready? A walker. Okay. That kid's a walker.

00;37;27;09 - 00;37;27;13
Mark
Too.

00;37;27;13 - 00;37;29;28
Sarah
Walker? You want to guess where Walker comes from?

00;37;29;29 - 00;37;30;13
Mark
No.

00;37;30;19 - 00;37;33;04
Sarah
T.W. Okay. e.R. Walker.

00;37;33;12 - 00;37;33;23
Mark
No.

00;37;33;23 - 00;37;37;26
Sarah
tw0c stands for take without owner's consent.

00;37;38;00 - 00;37;42;02
Mark
Okay. Wow. That's quite a long way to get a name.

00;37;42;02 - 00;37;44;04
Sarah
So walk is to steal.

00;37;44;07 - 00;37;44;20
Mark
Yep.

00;37;44;23 - 00;37;45;25
Sarah
So you're a talker.

00;37;45;28 - 00;37;48;05
Mark
Okay. But you know where to read comes.

00;37;48;09 - 00;37;59;01
Sarah
It's. Yeah, because it's people who are too poor to have socks wrap their feet in clogs. And they were really gross. Yeah. My favorite slang for a thief is Saint Nicholas is clerk.

00;37;59;05 - 00;38;01;13
Mark
Oh, why is that? We were held.

00;38;01;13 - 00;38;05;17
Sarah
Up by a Saint Nicholas. Clerk. Ah, Clerk of Saint Nicholas. You want to guess why?

00;38;05;17 - 00;38;06;08
Mark
Why?

00;38;06;10 - 00;38;09;07
Sarah
Because Saint Nicholas is the patron saint of thieves.

00;38;09;17 - 00;38;13;16
Mark
Oh, well, I'm glad he doesn't break into the house every year.

00;38;13;17 - 00;38;16;12
Sarah
Did you know there were patron saints for sins?

00;38;16;16 - 00;38;18;03
Mark
Yes. I didn't know that.

00;38;18;04 - 00;38;27;17
Sarah
Okay. I didn't know that. I thought there'd be a patron saint of people. Like, trying not to steal are reformed thieves or people who are victims of theft, but not the thieves.

00;38;27;23 - 00;38;30;18
Mark
No, I think there are. Because they can be saved.

00;38;30;25 - 00;38;38;13
Sarah
Well, I needed to know. So I started looking up patron saint of and just putting in, you know, adultery, murderers, whatever.

00;38;38;13 - 00;38;38;26
Mark
Scope.

00;38;38;26 - 00;38;56;29
Sarah
From No the deadly sins. Yeah. There is also a patron saint of murderers. Yeah, but the combination of things that this saint is responsible for is incredible. The patron saint of murderers is Julian the Hospitaler. Okay, okay. We know what a hospital are.

00;38;57;00 - 00;38;58;09
Mark
We know the hospital, right?

00;38;58;09 - 00;39;05;03
Sarah
It does. And has nothing to do with the hospital. No, it's about hospitality. Yeah, right. It's like an inn. Yeah, host of a inn.

00;39;05;04 - 00;39;08;19
Mark
They did occasionally have sick people there, but it's mostly like a hotel.

00;39;08;25 - 00;39;12;24
Sarah
But Julian is also the patron saint of the following. In addition to murderers.

00;39;12;24 - 00;39;13;28
Mark
Murderers, OC.

00;39;14;03 - 00;39;14;21
Sarah
Clowns.

00;39;14;21 - 00;39;16;01
Mark
Flat out.

00;39;16;05 - 00;39;22;11
Sarah
Circus workers, innkeepers. I get. Yeah, fiddle players, jugglers, Sort of.

00;39;22;11 - 00;39;23;22
Mark
Circus goes with circus.

00;39;23;22 - 00;39;35;21
Sarah
And childless people. Wow. So if you are a juggling around who plays the fiddle and has no kids. Julian Germaine.

00;39;35;21 - 00;39;36;21
Mark
Julian Germaine.

00;39;37;07 - 00;39;38;00
Sarah
Yeah. Tucker.

00;39;38;09 - 00;39;40;21
Mark
Yeah. He saw his sister, but she was Swink.

00;39;40;25 - 00;39;41;04
Mark
Yeah.

00;39;41;12 - 00;39;42;15
Mark
You know where that comes from?

00;39;42;15 - 00;39;43;18
Sarah
I don't know. Her Swank comes.

00;39;43;19 - 00;39;52;13
Mark
Middle high German word. That means to sway. It's not much of a stretch to jump from swaying or swaggering to showing off.

00;39;52;17 - 00;39;53;05
Sarah
Gotcha.

00;39;53;13 - 00;39;56;00
Mark
Ostentatious ness. That's what swing.

00;39;56;00 - 00;40;07;28
Sarah
Which is where swag comes from. Yeah. It's not stuff we all get, which people think it is. It's not. It's from Swagger. Yeah. Which is how you would walk if you're wealthy. And when you a bunch of free goodies, you swagger.

00;40;07;28 - 00;40;11;24
Mark
So then the horrible business comes out. It's horrible.

00;40;11;25 - 00;40;28;17
Sarah
Oh, record was molesting Eva. Yeah, it was brought into the home first as a lady's maid, as an employee, but then they adopted her. Laura is not a bad person. She just wasn't a brave person until it was too late. But then she was brave. And she whacked him. Yeah, like a melon head.

00;40;28;17 - 00;40;30;07
Mark
The best day of her life.

00;40;30;09 - 00;40;31;13
Sarah
And he deserved it.

00;40;31;14 - 00;40;32;12
Mark
There's a band.

00;40;35;06 - 00;40;40;07
Sarah
Flora caught him with Eva, and then she goes to the factory. And her we little welly boots.

00;40;40;15 - 00;40;41;01
Mark
Yes.

00;40;42;07 - 00;40;44;03
Mark
And a big cloak. Cloak.

00;40;44;11 - 00;40;48;06
Sarah
We move those boots on the table look like a child's boot.

00;40;48;06 - 00;40;50;26
Mark
Yes. She has small feet. Very small feet.

00;40;50;27 - 00;40;55;26
Sarah
Mere not gets his bike back, but it's in pieces. It looks like I lost her sort of there.

00;40;55;26 - 00;41;04;28
Mark
I love in the recap, she he goes. Flora, what are you doing here? I was like in my notes. Why didn't they show that at the beginning? It would have made everything so much easier.

00;41;05;13 - 00;41;08;23
Sarah
I would have kind of given it away, I think. I guess if we had seen that.

00;41;08;24 - 00;41;17;27
Mark
So then me go and harass the guy who runs the baker. Baker? Did you notice how close Bracken Reed is standing to him?

00;41;18;03 - 00;41;18;19
Sarah
Yeah.

00;41;19;01 - 00;41;20;19
Mark
Like superglue.

00;41;20;19 - 00;41;31;27
Sarah
I think it's good. Yeah. They show up at his party wearing their badges. Yeah, to give him a talking to. Yeah. And he hears and he does something about it. He commits to it right then and there in front of everybody.

00;41;32;02 - 00;41;37;04
Mark
Yeah, we're to fix our system and maybe or a little bit of Bracken Reed yourself. The.

00;41;37;04 - 00;41;40;14
Sarah
And how much time is Flora going to do.

00;41;40;15 - 00;41;47;04
Mark
I think the jury's going to be very sympathetic to him. So maybe four years suspended sentence. Maybe.

00;41;47;07 - 00;41;53;04
Sarah
Yeah. Did they have a suspended sentence? I don't know. I think they're going to give her the very right a sentence they can get away with.

00;41;53;05 - 00;41;55;07
Mark
Absolutely. This is like, okay.

00;41;55;08 - 00;41;56;29
Sarah
And I think she's going to take Charlie in.

00;41;57;02 - 00;42;06;00
Mark
There are other serious Murdochs. Okay. We're not saying they're not other serious Murdoch, but this this is the end of dower Murdoch here.

00;42;06;02 - 00;42;06;26
Sarah
For quite a.

00;42;06;26 - 00;42;13;26
Mark
While. Like season two pushes hard on other things. Yeah, but but it's never like this again.

00;42;13;26 - 00;42;18;12
Sarah
Yeah, they deal with serious issues, but they have a better balance and they have a center tone.

00;42;18;14 - 00;42;24;07
Mark
Yeah, this. This. Except for half naked lady. The tone is weird in this episode.

00;42;24;07 - 00;42;40;01
Sarah
Yeah, it's a fair melon whacking. Yeah, Periscopes and so on. Basically, this is pretty serious. Yes. So I think for talking after the credits, I think Iva will do the minimal sentence. What I mean, Flora will do the smallest sentence they can possibly give her and.

00;42;40;01 - 00;42;41;16
Mark
Even Charlie in that.

00;42;42;01 - 00;42;43;26
Sarah
He was adopted. So she gets everything.

00;42;43;26 - 00;42;48;17
Mark
So she gets everything. She should go into the house with Charlie. Yeah, living it.

00;42;48;17 - 00;42;49;25
Sarah
Up. Come on, Charlie.

00;42;49;27 - 00;42;52;06
Mark
I know a valet to come back and work for them.

00;42;52;06 - 00;42;53;00
Sarah
He's a valid.

00;42;53;03 - 00;42;53;27
Mark
Ballot. Sorry.

00;42;54;04 - 00;43;02;28
Sarah
I know why you want to say valet, but it's valid. It's valid. Rhymes with palette. Palette? Mm hmm. I don't know. I don't think I would have Gorman back. He is still a blackmailer.

00;43;02;28 - 00;43;04;17
Mark
He is still a black male.

00;43;04;23 - 00;43;17;00
Sarah
He may not have been a thief, but he's a blackmailer. Yes. Instead of reporting record for what he was doing, you just blackmail him? Just. He's not good. No, no. You don't want him back. Now, Murdock's going to have to put his bank back together.

00;43;17;09 - 00;43;21;10
Mark
You'll like that, though? Probably. It'll be bigger drives on the street.

00;43;21;10 - 00;43;23;04
Sarah
Better, faster, stronger.

00;43;23;16 - 00;43;25;16
Mark
It's not the $6 million, Murdoch.

00;43;26;00 - 00;43;32;02
Sarah
No, that's in the later season. So that is season one episode ten Child's Play.

00;43;32;08 - 00;43;41;02
Mark
If you watch this episode and watched, oh, I don't know, the Halloween episode from season ten, you would not think these two shows were the same show.

00;43;41;02 - 00;43;45;13
Sarah
Oh, gosh, no, no, it gets it. There is so much more fun.

00;43;45;15 - 00;43;54;01
Mark
It's so bonkers. It's so fun. And next next episode, there's a, quote, killer with a crossbow. Like it's full on bonkers.

00;43;54;01 - 00;43;54;14
Mark
Oh, yeah.

00;43;54;26 - 00;44;03;08
Sarah
Yeah. It. In the next episode, Episode 11 is very much an example of why, if you like midsummer, you can like.

00;44;03;08 - 00;44;11;13
Mark
Murdoch and then Prince and Rebel is episode 12. And that's just Keystone Cops. Yeah, it's fantastically Keystone Cops.

00;44;11;13 - 00;44;13;18
Sarah
Yeah, we're in for a couple of lighter episodes.

00;44;13;18 - 00;44;15;09
Mark
And then annoying Red Planet.

00;44;15;09 - 00;44;18;01
Mark
Was. Yeah.

00;44;19;06 - 00;44;22;08
Sarah
It just they just ratchet it Ratchet it Ratchet is.

00;44;22;08 - 00;44;25;00
Mark
One of my favorite characters. Makes his debut.

00;44;25;00 - 00;44;31;14
Sarah
Yeah. Yeah. Moodiness. Yeah. Just goes up a level for each episode after this one and this season.

00;44;31;20 - 00;44;33;28
Mark
But before that, on the 8th of May.

00;44;33;28 - 00;44;35;13
Sarah
You turn that bad land and.

00;44;35;13 - 00;44;49;13
Mark
That badlands and we're raising money for Target, ovarian cancer and everything. You spend it. The shop between the 1st of January, if you want to go back in time and the 1st of June, we're going to double it, send it off to Target. Ovarian cancer.

00;44;49;13 - 00;44;52;16
Sarah
Yes. And you'll hear her talk a little bit about that in the episode two.

00;44;52;17 - 00;45;03;02
Mark
The episode talks about midsummer. It also talks about Ted Lasso, talks about her early life in theater and also travel stories.

00;45;03;09 - 00;45;05;03
Sarah
And, oh, she's so funny.

00;45;05;03 - 00;45;10;22
Mark
And why she's so interested in helping people out. Yeah, it's just fantastic.

00;45;10;22 - 00;45;13;14
Sarah
It's really good. All right. Until then, by.

00;45;13;14 - 00;45;14;09
Mark
Mannix.

00;45;14;09 - 00;45;15;15
Sarah
By Maniacs.

00;45;19;11 - 00;45;22;02
Mark
Is a.

00;45;31;04 - 00;45;35;12
Mark
Because Charlie didn't buy. No, Charlie didn't buy Crabtree.

00;45;35;12 - 00;45;41;21
Mark
Charlie didn't buy Crabtree. Spring drop out. Charlie. Oh, don't kill my bike.

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Sarah Smith-Robbins
Host
Sarah Smith-Robbins
Co-host of Mystery Maniacs