Mystery Maniacs

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Mark
I'm okay. I've got enough now. Hey, maniac. Hey, me.

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Sarah
That hey was almost as long as the break that we took.

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Mark
Yeah, exactly. We've been off for two weeks.

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Sarah
Long time, no talk.

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Mark
But we still provided content. Oh, boy. Did we provide you content.

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Sarah
Thank you. And that's so much. She was great fun.

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Mark
If you haven't listened to our Net Badlands interview, what have you been doing?

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Sarah
One of my friends that works. And we should make a T-shirt that says Grandkids. Kittens.

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Mark
If you listen to the episode, you know what that means. Dope Mystery Maniacs is a comedy Recap podcast dedicated to mystery TV. Each week we dig into an episode of a show, including the murders, the mayhem, the loonies, and everything else we love. This week, Murder mysteries Season one Episode 11 Bad Medicine.

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Sarah
And If you've forgotten, I'm Sarah.

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Mark
And I'm Mark. And I'm Not Don. Jon Bon Jovi. Well, because your love is like bad medicine.

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Both
Oh, how the wow.

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Sarah
Wow. And yeah, he does have a frog in his throat. He has been to Canada and he brought a frog back. I don't know what that is.

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Mark
I went to Canada and guess what it was called.

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Sarah
Is that why your throat's like that?

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Mark
I just started yesterday.

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Sarah
Yeah, I think you were there screaming. I must. Your voice.

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Mark
Maybe.

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Sarah
But it wasn't for hockey that you were screaming big.

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Mark
Not of the hockey. Hockey is all done. And apparently my hockey team is all destroyed, so maybe hockey will never come back ever again.

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Sarah
That makes you feel better.

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Both
Well, I'm.

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Sarah
Just. Say no more about it. Wow. No, I will say while you were gone. So maybe some of you have this, too, with your significant other. We have sort of an informal arrangement that when one of us is away, there are certain things on TV. The other one does not watch without them. Yes, it's like Netflix, infidelity or something, that if it's something that we watch together, we don't watch it apart.

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Sarah
We wait and we watch it together.

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Mark
So Newman New midsummer's arrived while I was away.

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Sarah
I would not have watched. Not a watch that you got to then. So that that means that I'm left trying to find something to watch that you won't like? Yeah. Basically something I think I will enjoy. But that you won't be like, Oh, I'm going to watch that. Yes. So with that being said, I watched a show called School Spirit this week on Paramount Plus.

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Sarah
That's about a girl who dies in her high school. She wakes up as a ghost in the high school, along with a lot of other people from different time periods who also died thereabouts.

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Mark
So it's like ghosts with teens, but romance and scary.

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Sarah
Yeah, it's no, it's a really good mystery as well.

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Mark
That's good.

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Sarah
This is a really good eight episodes, about an hour piece. It's not gory, but it's also not teenybopper. Kiss. Kiss either has a little levity in it, but it's a it's a really good mystery. Oh, so I recommend it Paramount.

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Mark
Plus also has Mrs. Davis, which is currently one of our favorite television shows.

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Sarah
It's about a nun fighting an evil I.

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Mark
I'm going to go crazy and say it is right now. Now, there are two episodes left if you got to stick the ending. Yeah, but it is, in my opinion, one of the top ten shows of all time.

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Sarah
It's one of the best written things on TV in a long time, that's for sure. It's utterly unpredictable.

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Mark
If my my brother, who I saw in Canada, said that he had watched the first two episodes, I was like, I know so much that you don't know.

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Sarah
And and you won't even be able to guess. Yeah, it's so unpredictable, but really, really good stuff. You're looking for something unpredictable. You're looking for something to watch. I would strongly recommend Mrs. Davis if you spirits.

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Mark
If you watch, if you watch the movie, everything everywhere all at once and enjoyed it. Mrs. Davis is kind of in that vein.

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Sarah
Yeah, You'll like it. Yeah. Yeah. You may have also noticed that there is new broken word out on ACORN. Yeah, as well as new dog leash. The new. The new dog wishes are really good if you ever.

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Mark
Get a poetry reading.

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Sarah
Yes, yes. If you ever read the books or you watch the old version. I really like this and it's really well done.

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Mark
Yeah, he is fantastic.

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Sarah
Yeah, he.

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Mark
Does. And the great poetry reading voice.

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Sarah
And the actor's name is Bart. Isn't that birdie? Birdie. That's it.

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Mark
Yes.

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Sarah
He's the best looking birdie I've ever seen. He's handsome for a birdie.

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Mark
Speaking of midsummer, also on Sunday.

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Sarah
Who is speaking a midsummer?

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Mark
I don't know. That's what I'm going to say. Nice Segway Sunday, 28th on ITV. For our British listeners, you will finally get for death for Bear. Now, remember, about a month ago you were supposed to get it and then some royal draft, a book. And the interview takes precedence and probably not. So barring royal emergency.

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Both
Yes.

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Sarah
Like another coronation, some more fun or something.

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Mark
Sunday, the 28th on ITV. You should get for Desperate Pair, which is the Midsomer Curry episode.

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Sarah
So listen to the many first, watch the episode and then listen to the follow.

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Mark
Up and I'll be on all our socials this week. I'll push that out to our socials, the many and the full episode.

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Sarah
Are you ready to talk about bad medicine?

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Mark
I am ready to talk about Bad medicine. Original Air Date March 31st, 2008 Directed by John LeClair L Apostrophe C ui pr dude by a consonant for your name and Derek's writer wrote it.

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Sarah
Okay, it's a crossbow.

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Mark
This is a great, great cold opening for an episode that needs some work.

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Sarah
It started off real strong. Yeah. And then the plot gets a bit dubious.

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Mark
First of all, they're in a park.

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Sarah
Is it a park or is it the grounds of the institute?

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Mark
It's a park nearby. In the park.

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Sarah
Near the Brain Institute Institute for the Poor Mind, the.

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Mark
Brain Institute. And there is a cloaked figure with a crossbow. Oh, instant drama.

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Sarah
Hey, at least run in the zigzag or something. I don't know. Somebody's shooting you in the back with a crossbow. Like, I don't know, Duck Ravine.

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Mark
Get something that will cover you.

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Sarah
Lay down.

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Mark
Behind that light pole.

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Sarah
Trashcan lid.

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Mark
Something.

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Sarah
I don't know. He's running and it's sticking out his back. Yeah. And kind of.

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Mark
To through already.

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Sarah
Oh, it just would hurt so much. Yeah. And he's still yelling Help me, help me.

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Mark
I would assume that he would be screaming, but also maybe his lungs have collapsed.

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Sarah
Yeah, I would think they'd be close to it. Yeah. So this is Doctor Francis Grout? Yes.

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Mark
Do you know why they're called bolts? No, because originally this is what is suspected. So bolts go and crossbows and arrows go in bows. But that's different now. Now all the crossbows that you can buy, all take arrows to.

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Sarah
Okay.

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Mark
They're usually shorter and more stout. Right? Bigger around. And these certainly fit that. The crossbow he has the modern cross it's a it's a crossbow from mid century.

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Sarah
It's not super modern. It's not like one of the fiberglass mills they use now. No, no. You watch the Olympics and crossbows. They don't even look like crossbows. No, no. It's like those electric violins that don't look like violins. Yeah, they're really tacky.

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Mark
So originally crossbows were giant, right? They were siege weaponry.

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Sarah
Yeah. You had to come with your foot, didn't you?

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Mark
Or even bigger than that.

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Sarah
You crank a couple of.

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Mark
Huge crank and they used to shoot basically trees. Yeah, right. But these trees were squared not round.

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Sarah
And that's why they're bolt.

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Mark
And that's why they're called bolts.

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Sarah
Interesting, because everything else called the bolt is round. It's cylindrical like a bolt. The fabric or a nuts and bolts. Yeah. Huh.

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Mark
I want one of those things screaming at me.

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Sarah
There's bolts of lightning to.

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Mark
Either the bolt from this crossbow or that giant one.

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Sarah
You don't think you can dodge a log?

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Mark
No.

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Sarah
Come on. I couldn't move very fast.

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Mark
Some of those are really.

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Sarah
Big rubber band, Some.

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Mark
Of those siege weaponry. They must've shot it for the first time. And everybody went, Wow, what the hell was that?

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Sarah
Okay, we're going to need some checks under the wheels because it moved backwards as far as the bolt moves forward and Birdie got run over. Yeah, Yeah. So he gets shot a few times, goes down. Yeah.

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Mark
He he goes down in front, like right beside a lamppost and then we do scene of the crime next in a pretty nice transition by the way Bolt came We didn't even talk about that. You know how they filmed that.

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Sarah
Camera bolt taped to the camera? Yes.

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Mark
And then they just spin the camera.

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Both
Oh, okay.

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Mark
Well, they don't actually make the camera go like a long distance.

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Sarah
They didn't duct tape a GoPro to it and shoot it out of an actual crossbow.

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Mark
They did.

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Sarah
It. Why not? That would have been fun. Yeah. And so Grout has painted w y Well, we'll talk about whether it was grout or not with his own blood on the Handy Dandy Rock.

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Mark
How does it get to that blood?

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Sarah
That's a good question. And one I wondered, too, unless it's dribbling out his face.

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Mark
Maybe.

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Sarah
You've got that many internal injuries. You might be drooling blood a little bit, maybe, but it's really solid.

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Mark
Those letters are really well, right.

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Sarah
It's got to reach around like when you've got an itch on your back that's kind of hard to reach and like, stick your finger in the wound and like.

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Mark
Okay, I've got enough now.

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Sarah
That's one.

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Mark
But the rock is nowhere near him. When he falls, there's a problem.

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Sarah
Here. I don't think he did it.

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Mark
I don't think he did it either. And I think the body's been moved.

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Sarah
Yeah, I think the killer remember, this is a spoiler podcast. We're going to talk about who did it. Yes. If you haven't watched the episode stop right now, because the killer is Bennie.

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Mark
Bennie.

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Sarah
Richard. Bennie. Yes. So Richard shoots him several times, then I think moves the body, dips his own finger and sprouts blood and writes on the rock.

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Mark
I totally agree.

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Sarah
And it's definitely one of those cases where, you know, like when you were a kid and you start making a poster or something and you think you've got the letter space, but by the time you get to the end of the word, you're like, right in small.

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Mark
Yes.

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Sarah
Like Wickham was not going to fit on that rock.

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Mark
No.

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Sarah
Maybe he should've brought, like, a quill or something to dig for.

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Mark
Maybe like there's an outtake. There's a lot of outtakes in this episode where the killers running back and forth from, like, a pile of rocks trying to find a rock.

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Sarah
That wouldn't work wyg0 there's an h h a Now, it's not going to fit, dammit. Maybe he should have just written drawn a map of the street. Maybe, and put a little fingerprint of blood on where the fire happened.

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Mark
Never mind.

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Sarah
The arrow.

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Mark
Yeah. Never mind the fact that all of this is like there's some Scooby Doo. Miss Marple, this year, my no killer would do this.

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Sarah
Yeah, I was looking at the letters going. Could it be an m? Could be an m.

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Mark
To.

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Both
Be with you.

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Sarah
But why is upside down? Don't really make.

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Both
Anything.

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Sarah
But I was looking into it like they could have it wrong. It could be sideways, right? Yeah. I don't know where he supposedly got the blood. If he did it himself, it's clear he didn't do it himself.

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Mark
And this is up. I wouldn't be surprised if this was also an episode that they move back in the schedule because, like, Murdoch is like, well, George, it's like, this isn't like George knows this already. But then Julie appears and Slate.

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Sarah
She's like, Hi, I'm Julia. I'm really smart and I'm really funny, but you're never going to laugh at my jokes, huh?

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Mark
Julia In the first season Judd plays, she is the funniest character.

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Sarah
Her. Yeah, she's really funny. She just has to make light of things.

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Mark
And Murdoch just.

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Sarah
Even George is like, really joking. Really? Come on, dude. No. The Center for the Mind. The Institute for the Mind is founded by Groot, who's now dead. And Grayson.

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Mark
Yes, Grout and Grayson.

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Sarah
Grayson's first name is Barrett. Bert b u r r i t Yes. Which I had never heard of it before. No. And I went looking to see the origin of this name. Yes. Forget about it. Okay. Google doesn't accept it. It's burrito. It doesn't matter. It autocorrect did it over and over and over again. I put it in quotes and it said Brit in quotes plus oh, and gave me results for Burrito.

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Sarah
No matter what I did, it was Burrito.

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Mark
I am now calling him Doctor Burrito.

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Sarah
Oh, I know. First name. Origin Barrett.

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Mark
Nope. Doctor Burrito.

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Sarah
First name. Origin Burrito. No, just Burrito. Here you go. No origin of Burrito. No, no.

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Mark
Google now is a bad 70 Batman villain. I got a burrito.

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Sarah
I gave up. I like. I don't care what his name is. Never mind. There is a family in England whose surname is Barrett with two T's at the end, but the only thing that is B you are I t is a word that ends in. No, I gave up. No, not burrito.

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Mark
And if you see burrito commercials during our podcast, it's because the algorithm picked a burrito.

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Sarah
I just want to smack this man anyway because he's like, Well, women's brains are feeble and 90% smaller and their organs sapped their mental energy and like, okay, if anybody thinks with their organs, it's not women. Yeah, all right. Yeah, but anybody's brain is getting sapped by their organs. It's not women.

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Mark
What I'm glad is.

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Sarah
Now, but it's totally typical all the time. That's.

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Mark
It's totally typical of the time. But I would say season two on Murdoch is going to say something to him.

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Sarah
Yeah, they get less concerned with being non they get they're less worried about avoiding anachronisms in the way people think.

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Mark
And I think I think they want to show Murdoch as a progressive thinking individual.

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Sarah
Yes. So so he would have said actually there was a study that weighed a thousand brains. Yes. The women's brains were just as big. And speaking of women's brains, Miss Pencil is in.

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Mark
This is pencil. Do you think this was Well, Maria, we signed you up for two episodes, so we're going to put you in this one.

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Sarah
Maybe because she does fit. Yeah, but the character is problematic in this episode, and I'm just going to say it right now.

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Mark
Yeah.

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Sarah
And people can argue with me if they disagree. I'm all for it. In this episode, psychics are real, period. She knows stuff she couldn't know any other way.

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Mark
The seconds, you know, in this episode.

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Sarah
She doesn't solve the case without her psychic abilities. She provides evidence they can't get any other way.

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Mark
Yeah. And in her first episode, there was a little bit of saying good stuff. And the ghost of the belly her those three things, you never see anything like those again.

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Sarah
Well, in her first episode.

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Mark
Well, except for how it's.

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Sarah
Kind of explainable. Yeah, there are other ways she could know what she knows. If she was super resourceful. Yes. And. And kind and sneaky. Right. And she does have a sidekick who's doing research for her. Yeah. And gathering information. So we kind of think, okay, so that's how she did it. And so they kind of explain it away.

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Sarah
But in this episode, that doesn't happen. Now. She provides key pieces of evidence they could not solve the case without her, and there's no way she could know those things.

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Mark
No, and that's not what Murdoch.

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Sarah
Is, unless she's a much better detective than the entire police. Well, and doesn't want anybody to know.

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Mark
Better than George and Henry.

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Sarah
Well, they're special.

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Mark
There's mention of the Grim Reaper here. Do you know when the Grim Reaper happened or like, at when it became popular and where it came from?

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Sarah
Well, the cloaked figure, like a skeleton with a size, goes back to at least medieval ages. But I don't know what they called. I mean, just death. Well, I don't know.

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Mark
So death before this came in, a bunch of different forms. In Death in the Four Horsemen in the Bible is not described in fact, is the only one actually named the name of the Four Horsemen. That's all medieval, really. The idea of a cloaked skeletal figure with a side dealing with death comes out of European folklore and really is a meme that is created because of the Black Death.

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Sarah
That makes sense.

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Mark
Yeah. Like it's a shorthand for Black death in art at that point.

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Sarah
Well, he's not the Grim Reaper anyway. He's Hell's version of Robin Hood.

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Both
Yes.

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Mark
Not a Grim reaper. No. Skeletal. And he doesn't have the side.

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Sarah
Yeah. No, he's evil Robin Hood. I mean, he's trying to right wrongs.

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Both
Yeah.

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Mark
And they do it. They do a good job here because everything this pencil says is easily called Read it. Right. The murderer is angry.

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Sarah
Initially.

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Mark
Obscure.

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Sarah
The first time she visits Murdoch and says, you know, you're the you're one of the victims. Everything she says there could be called reading could be stuff she heard picked up from chitter chatter and of course, saying you're going to be one of the victims means that they're going to listen. So she wants to insinuate herself into the investigation.

00;18;06;14 - 00;18;12;24
Sarah
That's the way to do it. But after that, she starts having visions and stuff that she learns, things that she can't know.

00;18;12;25 - 00;18;18;17
Mark
And I'm going to say that back and read with no Mr. Hyde, but not Frankenstein.

00;18;18;18 - 00;18;19;01
Sarah
Why?

00;18;19;04 - 00;18;27;02
Mark
That book was not as popular as you think it was until the movie in the twenties. Hmm. Mostly because it was written by.

00;18;27;05 - 00;18;33;08
Sarah
Oh, well, you know those ladies? Yeah. With their mental capacity sapped by their organs.

00;18;33;10 - 00;18;35;03
Mark
We're actually just punching him.

00;18;35;06 - 00;18;38;10
Sarah
He would be hysterical and like, women and.

00;18;38;10 - 00;18;54;06
Mark
Like, he's totally, like, I realize I'm going to harp on this, but there should have been a thing where, like, Julia and Murdoch discuss that. Mm hmm. A perfect, flirty little opportunity.

00;18;54;09 - 00;18;59;10
Sarah
For her to fill him in on. Actually, that's not true. And he could say, Well, that's just your uterus.

00;18;59;13 - 00;19;03;10
Mark
Never thought of you like that. Or No, he could tell me.

00;19;03;10 - 00;19;05;11
Sarah
And that's just your organs talking.

00;19;05;11 - 00;19;07;18
Both
Julia Yeah.

00;19;07;21 - 00;19;15;05
Sarah
Well, Dr. Burrito Grayson is wrong for other reasons, too, though He stands right in front of patients and talks about them like they can't hear him.

00;19;15;05 - 00;19;23;28
Mark
Yes, he is from worst. Like his University of Toronto School of Medicine. Diploma is on the wall. Should be.

00;19;23;28 - 00;19;31;27
Sarah
Removed. Yeah, they should take it back. Like, I don't even know why Miss Pringle is there. She plays the violin and is empathetic.

00;19;32;00 - 00;19;33;08
Mark
She's empathetic?

00;19;33;15 - 00;19;38;14
Sarah
Well, that makes her insane. I guess she can play a violin and she's sympathetic.

00;19;38;15 - 00;19;43;03
Mark
Mr. Horton has extraordinary recall. So this is a nod to my.

00;19;43;09 - 00;19;45;05
Sarah
Surveillance of testing.

00;19;45;06 - 00;19;45;17
Mark
Autism.

00;19;45;20 - 00;19;59;23
Sarah
Yeah, he has synesthesia. He can. He's memorized pi. He knows the weather The days of the week from long ago. Yes. That kind of. That's. And that's a trick, by the way. People who can tell you what day of the week something. Oh, yeah. They're just doing math in their head.

00;19;59;25 - 00;20;07;01
Mark
July 7th, 1888. It was 80.9, six degrees Fahrenheit in Toronto. Just so.

00;20;07;01 - 00;20;10;29
Sarah
You know. Good job, Horton, You were close percent fair.

00;20;11;01 - 00;20;13;19
Mark
27.2 fair Celsius.

00;20;13;19 - 00;20;22;12
Sarah
Then there's been paralyzed by a stroke. But he has a bell. Yes. And he says again, right in front of him, it can get a bit tedious. Okay, you're a bit rude.

00;20;22;15 - 00;20;29;00
Mark
Mostly it can get tedious because he's the killer. But but Mr. Tinker can see you. Three dimension.

00;20;29;00 - 00;20;30;01
Sarah
Mr. Nesbitt.

00;20;30;07 - 00;20;31;24
Mark
You know whose bike? The first.

00;20;31;24 - 00;20;33;01
Sarah
Motorized wheelchair.

00;20;33;06 - 00;20;34;25
Mark
Three dimensional.

00;20;34;27 - 00;20;39;20
Sarah
So, no, he's like Leonardo da Vinci. We have. Maybe he can see around corners.

00;20;39;20 - 00;20;44;10
Mark
Eyes face forward. Yeah, but we can see in three dimensions.

00;20;44;11 - 00;20;49;00
Sarah
Oh, boy. And then Nurse Barrington. And that's kind of the cast. That's everybody.

00;20;49;04 - 00;20;54;16
Mark
Yeah. And that scene is a real Agatha Christie. Here are the suspects.

00;20;54;16 - 00;21;01;19
Sarah
Yes. All sitting in the same room doing separate things so we can stand over them and talk about them as if they can't hear us.

00;21;01;21 - 00;21;03;12
Mark
Ding!

00;21;03;14 - 00;21;12;06
Sarah
I love that Benny just runs into people with his wheelchair, like tries to take Murdock's legs out.

00;21;12;08 - 00;21;15;00
Both
Ding, ding, ding, ding.

00;21;15;02 - 00;21;20;01
Mark
Ma. Mom, I got a part. I'm a crap artist at the station.

00;21;20;02 - 00;21;21;21
Sarah
Oh, yeah, the sketch artist.

00;21;21;21 - 00;21;22;21
Both
Yeah.

00;21;22;23 - 00;21;24;26
Sarah
This is a very angular grim reaper.

00;21;25;01 - 00;21;29;22
Mark
Okay, I can draw a better Grim reaper than that, and I cannot draw.

00;21;29;26 - 00;21;46;07
Sarah
Okay. I love you and everything, but no, you couldn't. You're that bad. I'm sorry if I gave you tracing paper. I don't know that you could trace it better than that. I've seen it. You make a good effort, honey. I do. But I don't know that it would turn out any better.

00;21;46;10 - 00;21;48;04
Both
That.

00;21;48;06 - 00;21;58;14
Mark
She has another vision. There's a hollow screech. Somebody saying no and Murdock getting shot? No. There's a woman behind him in the vision. It's her.

00;21;58;15 - 00;22;00;06
Both
Yeah.

00;22;00;08 - 00;22;00;25
Sarah
All right.

00;22;00;26 - 00;22;02;13
Mark
She should maybe say that.

00;22;02;17 - 00;22;14;24
Sarah
So let's unpack this a little bit. So we. We know that Benny is a killer and that he's not really paralyzed. Okay, So how long has he been at the institute pretending to be paralyzed?

00;22;14;24 - 00;22;20;11
Mark
It is implied later on two years he's been working on this day.

00;22;20;13 - 00;22;21;28
Sarah
That is some patience.

00;22;22;01 - 00;22;24;23
Mark
Why does it not just kill him right away?

00;22;24;24 - 00;22;26;18
Sarah
I don't know.

00;22;26;20 - 00;22;29;21
Mark
Like, and why? Think about it. Kill the other doctor first.

00;22;29;21 - 00;22;43;15
Sarah
Think about what he's been going through for two years. Yeah. All of his bodily functions taken care of by somebody else. Somebody else dressing him. Somebody else feeding him? Yeah, Probably through a tube to his stomach if he can't chew because he's paralyzed.

00;22;43;18 - 00;22;48;25
Mark
Yeah. And Nesbitt may have figured it out. Yeah, because he spent 5 minutes with him.

00;22;48;25 - 00;22;52;22
Sarah
Yeah. Just imagine if you were pretending to be paralyzed and you had an itch.

00;22;52;26 - 00;22;53;21
Mark
Oh.

00;22;53;24 - 00;22;56;08
Both
If I make you crazy.

00;22;56;10 - 00;23;00;20
Mark
Did you like days when he was in his room? Yeah.

00;23;00;23 - 00;23;06;18
Sarah
We hear strange movement. Norway. Yeah. It's Benny walking around because he can sat.

00;23;06;18 - 00;23;08;03
Mark
In that chair all day.

00;23;08;03 - 00;23;10;17
Sarah
A real detective would just look at the bottom of the shoes.

00;23;10;17 - 00;23;14;00
Mark
Yes, that is what a real detective would do.

00;23;14;06 - 00;23;17;22
Sarah
So all of the W files are missing from Grootes office.

00;23;17;22 - 00;23;21;00
Mark
Why? Maybe this. Nobody with a dub here.

00;23;21;02 - 00;23;22;15
Both
Yeah, that's true.

00;23;22;17 - 00;23;45;03
Sarah
They couldn't find anybody working there with a W except the one guy who's long gone. So we have to assume, though, that Benny took them. Yeah. So Benny wants revenge for his girlfriend. Who? Greyson and Groot performed something like a lobotomy on. She lost her memory, forgot who he was, then died in a fire, and he wants to avenge her.

00;23;45;03 - 00;23;46;01
Sarah
And though he did you.

00;23;46;01 - 00;23;47;28
Mark
Think Dr. Burrito started the fire?

00;23;47;29 - 00;23;48;15
Sarah
No.

00;23;48;16 - 00;23;55;06
Mark
Okay. I don't believe I said that sentence.

00;23;55;08 - 00;24;03;26
Sarah
But I think after two years of pretending to be paralyzed, Benny is sort of losing it a bit more than your average killer.

00;24;03;26 - 00;24;05;12
Mark
I think he is lost it.

00;24;05;18 - 00;24;11;23
Sarah
So he want. He doesn't just want vengeance. He wants it to be known. What happened? Yes.

00;24;11;25 - 00;24;16;21
Mark
He wanted a typewriter in Benny's room. No, he's paralyzed.

00;24;16;23 - 00;24;33;07
Sarah
He wants them to figure out why this is happening. I think. And that's why he paints DWI on the rock. That's why he steals all the W files. Yeah. Now, why would he take the W files when her last name is Chaucer?

00;24;33;09 - 00;24;34;00
Mark
I do not.

00;24;34;00 - 00;24;36;06
Sarah
Know his girlfriend's last name. Who's died?

00;24;36;06 - 00;24;38;19
Mark
I still think no one.

00;24;38;22 - 00;24;42;17
Both
Has a double. You name?

00;24;42;20 - 00;24;49;10
Sarah
It's not. They've been stolen. They were just never any. There. There's all these Zs at the end. But there's no.

00;24;49;10 - 00;24;51;16
Mark
W Mr. Higgins, we cannot.

00;24;51;17 - 00;24;57;20
Sarah
Help you. No, sorry. We can't take any patients with the W. What is the paste on the band's stir.

00;24;57;23 - 00;24;59;17
Mark
Okay. The paste on the banister.

00;24;59;21 - 00;25;02;24
Sarah
Because this is a clue that Murdock and Crabtree find.

00;25;02;26 - 00;25;14;22
Mark
His hair coloring that he puts on his hair to change his hair color. Because in the picture that he finds later in the newspaper, he has a different hairdo or darker now.

00;25;14;25 - 00;25;24;25
Sarah
And the people who are taking care of him at the institute and his paralyzed body don't notice that he's putting goop in his hair to change the color.

00;25;24;28 - 00;25;30;15
Mark
Again, there is some explanation that maybe did not make it into this episode.

00;25;30;15 - 00;25;34;05
Sarah
And he's wearing a robe with a hood and you can't see his hair anyway.

00;25;34;05 - 00;25;35;03
Mark
Yeah.

00;25;35;05 - 00;25;38;01
Sarah
And how does his head touch the banister?

00;25;38;07 - 00;25;41;05
Mark
No, it's his head because he touched his head.

00;25;41;07 - 00;25;49;21
Sarah
So his hands are just covered in hair color. Goop does everywhere on cover bell. It would be everywhere if it was that easy to transfer.

00;25;49;21 - 00;25;51;25
Mark
Oh, you got it on my crossbow.

00;25;51;25 - 00;25;57;29
Sarah
And it's a paste. Yeah. You think it would just be like a tinted hair oil or something?

00;25;58;01 - 00;25;58;27
Mark
Something?

00;25;59;00 - 00;26;01;28
Sarah
Oh, imagine putting paste in your hair.

00;26;02;05 - 00;26;04;16
Mark
Scream, pause. Boom.

00;26;04;18 - 00;26;06;11
Sarah
24.

00;26;06;13 - 00;26;13;26
Mark
It's like that Horrible Dora with the blue.

00;26;13;28 - 00;26;28;01
Sarah
Crossbow, hallway dye, crossbow, hallway dye. Oh, she's never seen Dora. Thank your lucky stars. Yeah. So Benny says that he sees the Reaper. Well, of course he does.

00;26;28;09 - 00;26;28;26
Mark
Yeah.

00;26;28;28 - 00;26;31;29
Sarah
I saw me in the hallway. It was me. I saw me.

00;26;32;01 - 00;26;39;05
Mark
Dee Dee dee dee did, did, did. It's me.

00;26;39;08 - 00;26;44;28
Sarah
So then pencil goes undercover? Yes. As herself? Yes. Which I guess she has to do.

00;26;45;00 - 00;26;55;28
Mark
And this is like one of those great sitcom moments where Murdock lives up to her. Oh, and what is your name, young lady? And she goes, Miss Pencil. And then they're like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00;26;56;01 - 00;26;56;25
Sarah
Nobody will notice.

00;26;56;25 - 00;26;58;08
Mark
And then he goes.

00;26;58;10 - 00;26;59;15
Sarah
It was nice to.

00;26;59;15 - 00;27;07;00
Mark
Meet you, Miss Pencil. Like everyone would be looking at them in the room going into obviously know each other.

00;27;07;00 - 00;27;15;12
Sarah
And she says, If I see anything, I will be sure to give you a call. Detective Murdoch.

00;27;15;14 - 00;27;18;09
Mark
I'm pretty small brain pants, So do you think.

00;27;18;09 - 00;27;20;25
Both
We pull it off? I think it off. Okay.

00;27;20;28 - 00;27;23;04
Sarah
Yeah. So they learn about Wickham.

00;27;23;09 - 00;27;26;13
Mark
Oh, she uses the speakers at the beginning.

00;27;26;17 - 00;27;30;24
Sarah
Yeah, like in Ghostbusters where she gets this, right? Because she's actually psychic.

00;27;30;24 - 00;27;41;10
Mark
She's. Yeah, Those cards are based on like a 66. Yeah. Not, but she's not an 1860s experiment and she gets them all right. Now.

00;27;41;13 - 00;27;44;14
Sarah
She's magic Mark. Okay? She brought them from the future.

00;27;44;15 - 00;27;48;22
Mark
Sixth Sense. Where do you think that term was first used?

00;27;48;22 - 00;27;49;22
Sarah
I don't know.

00;27;49;24 - 00;28;17;07
Mark
First mention of Sixth Sense occurred in 1712. Mom in William Whitman's prime Primitive Christianity revived from Volume five, then said, Peter, that is false for there is a sixth sense of that of precedence for the other five senses that are capable of knowledge and the sixth for knowledge. Oh, which is a sense that prophets had.

00;28;17;14 - 00;28;27;02
Sarah
I see dead people. Dead people. She sees dead people. Where does the word Wickham come from? Where? Where in the where in the episode was it revealed. Okay.

00;28;27;04 - 00;28;28;27
Mark
It's Murdoch, it's a male.

00;28;29;01 - 00;28;29;12
Sarah
Mm.

00;28;29;18 - 00;28;33;27
Mark
Then the first question is like, does he always open his mouth with three.

00;28;34;00 - 00;28;35;04
Sarah
When he's on a case, I.

00;28;35;04 - 00;28;35;20
Mark
Guess.

00;28;35;20 - 00;28;36;26
Sarah
Kind of sus.

00;28;36;29 - 00;28;38;01
Mark
So then he says.

00;28;38;03 - 00;28;39;16
Sarah
A return address.

00;28;39;19 - 00;28;47;01
Mark
Then he says something which we'll get to and then I'm off on a completely different tangent. So where does Wickham come from?

00;28;47;04 - 00;28;51;10
Sarah
It comes from that letter, right, that's been typed and mailed to him. Who sent it?

00;28;51;14 - 00;28;52;14
Mark
Benny.

00;28;52;16 - 00;28;56;14
Sarah
Then he must have sent it. Yes. So Benny is giving them clues.

00;28;56;16 - 00;29;07;07
Mark
Where do you get a typewriter? How do you get it? In the post box. How did he like that? Is a process in which it's noticeable that you are not paralyzed.

00;29;07;09 - 00;29;14;01
Sarah
If it was handwritten, yeah, I could see how he might have pulled it off. Right, Because he's sneaking around at night.

00;29;14;03 - 00;29;14;17
Mark
Throw it and.

00;29;14;17 - 00;29;20;01
Sarah
Write a letter, puts it in with the other post. But typewriters make way too much noise.

00;29;20;04 - 00;29;22;05
Mark
They do in fact make lots of doing.

00;29;22;06 - 00;29;32;29
Sarah
So unless there's like there's also a ghostly typewriter here. We hear it typing at night, you know, It couldn't be Benny. He's in bed and paralyzed. Yeah. Yeah. I have a hard time believing that.

00;29;33;01 - 00;29;37;25
Mark
Yes. What I have a hard time believing is that Murdoch gets the point wrong.

00;29;37;28 - 00;29;39;22
Sarah
The font point size.

00;29;39;24 - 00;29;44;04
Mark
It would be 12.08 on the Remington of that time period.

00;29;44;05 - 00;29;51;10
Sarah
Always. Yes. Might they not have had special ones for doctors that were smaller so they could type more perhaps.

00;29;51;13 - 00;29;56;23
Mark
But Remington was well known for doing 12 characters per inch, which is 12 point.

00;29;56;23 - 00;29;59;14
Sarah
Well, aren't you a typewriter nerd? Congratulations.

00;29;59;14 - 00;30;04;06
Mark
Yes, I am. I also have about a half page of notes that I'm going to skip over.

00;30;04;08 - 00;30;09;28
Sarah
No, I got something interesting about Wickham or Wickham.

00;30;09;28 - 00;30;10;24
Mark
Wickham. What he.

00;30;10;24 - 00;30;24;08
Sarah
Got. So I went looking for that name. And among other things, there are two medieval villages that are no longer there in England called Wickham Oak. It's one of those East Wickham. West Wickham things. Oh, okay. But here's what I didn't have.

00;30;24;08 - 00;30;26;15
Mark
Time to go there. I think there might be one there.

00;30;26;18 - 00;30;27;03
Sarah
I don't.

00;30;27;03 - 00;30;27;28
Mark
Know. Okay.

00;30;28;03 - 00;30;30;29
Sarah
I didn't have time to look that up. But what I did learn.

00;30;31;06 - 00;30;31;19
Mark
Oak.

00;30;31;23 - 00;30;46;20
Sarah
Is that there's a term for these villages that are long gone. Okay? They called them deserted medieval villages or DMV. DMV, and there's about 900 DMV's there alone.

00;30;46;21 - 00;30;55;09
Mark
There is a theory that these some of these villages became deserted because of the Black Death. Yes. And that's been disproven. Now.

00;30;55;12 - 00;31;04;13
Sarah
Yes. A lot of its in closure. Yeah. The Lord of the manor said, you know, I would rather go shooting there than have these peasants there. Yes. I'm going to run them all.

00;31;04;13 - 00;31;07;19
Mark
Off as far more to do with economics and not.

00;31;07;19 - 00;31;29;07
Sarah
Call their houses down. Yeah. Yeah. But I just think it's funny that they call them DMV because in the US, DMV is a department of Motor Vehicles and you go to the DMV to get a new license plate or get a license, driver's license or whatever. So the fact that there's 900 DMV is in the UK and when you get there would just be some lumps and bumps under some grass, you're not going to get any business done.

00;31;29;10 - 00;31;33;18
Sarah
Nurse Barrington is not only a nurse, she's a sleight of hand artist, okay?

00;31;33;19 - 00;31;35;28
Mark
She's a magician. Okay?

00;31;36;00 - 00;31;38;05
Sarah
Magic is real in this episode.

00;31;38;07 - 00;31;38;21
Mark
Okay?

00;31;38;28 - 00;31;41;26
Sarah
She passed the spell on but the note in Murdock's pocket.

00;31;41;28 - 00;31;49;17
Mark
So the idea is that she passes neurons. Neurons do duck.

00;31;49;20 - 00;31;51;03
Sarah
Doctor, Burrito and Nurse.

00;31;51;03 - 00;32;08;07
Mark
Doc, she passes Murdock a note. But and I watch this really closely. She never touches him. Benny comes between them. Okay? Runs over Murdock's spot. She chastises Benny and then leaves.

00;32;08;14 - 00;32;09;19
Sarah
Because when she put it in his.

00;32;09;19 - 00;32;17;24
Mark
Pocket and then Murdock takes his notebook out and the note clearly falls from his pocket. How does she get the note in his pocket?

00;32;17;29 - 00;32;20;13
Sarah
Fishing line.

00;32;20;16 - 00;32;21;20
Mark
Invisible thread.

00;32;21;20 - 00;32;22;12
Sarah
Magic.

00;32;22;13 - 00;32;24;15
Both
Logic.

00;32;24;17 - 00;32;27;07
Sarah
And nurse magic. You wouldn't understand.

00;32;27;07 - 00;32;29;26
Mark
And it ain't at Albert Park.

00;32;29;28 - 00;32;31;05
Sarah
Where you'll find me dead.

00;32;31;10 - 00;32;33;07
Both
Yes.

00;32;33;10 - 00;32;40;24
Mark
Wow. There are a lot. This is like midsummer in the dead. Bodies are piling up here. Yeah, This is like, Okay, here we go.

00;32;40;25 - 00;32;51;28
Sarah
Here we go. Another dead end. She has a letter on her that. Why wouldn't the killer have taken it? I guess he didn't know. I guess Benny didn't know she had it or he planted it.

00;32;52;04 - 00;32;53;19
Mark
Benny in the bullets.

00;32;53;21 - 00;33;02;00
Sarah
Because the letter is from Groot about burying Wickham? Yes. And I don't know. I'm torn on this one. Part of me thinks was.

00;33;02;00 - 00;33;04;13
Mark
That in the Wickham File? Oh, no, wait. There wasn't.

00;33;04;13 - 00;33;13;02
Sarah
A wick. Yeah, because they don't have files based on the street that somebody died on. That's not how you alphabetize patient files that were the weirdest way.

00;33;13;04 - 00;33;15;05
Both
What's your address again?

00;33;15;08 - 00;33;28;11
Sarah
Are you going to die there? Okay, that's what I'll file it under B, So impossible Phone books would be real weird. Okay, maybe Benny put it in her purse.

00;33;28;16 - 00;33;30;12
Mark
But again, why does he want.

00;33;30;19 - 00;33;32;28
Sarah
Like, he wants people to know what happened.

00;33;33;00 - 00;33;36;04
Mark
Then why didn't he kill the guy who did it?

00;33;36;09 - 00;33;38;09
Sarah
He hasn't gotten to him yet.

00;33;38;11 - 00;33;40;27
Mark
I can kill Doctor Burrito yet.

00;33;41;04 - 00;33;51;19
Sarah
I don't know why he has to kill the nurse at all. She's about to provide Murdock with important information about what Grayson and Grout did, and that's to his benefit.

00;33;51;26 - 00;34;00;15
Mark
I think he's just gone crazy because he can actually walk around in the cloak. He's like, I'm going to kill everybody.

00;34;00;17 - 00;34;08;07
Sarah
I don't know why he didn't just report them. Look, they lobotomized my girlfriend and then let her burned to death.

00;34;08;13 - 00;34;16;00
Mark
Well, and Julius says that people talk about this guy like so already. There's stuff going on.

00;34;16;00 - 00;34;18;25
Sarah
Bracken, read it. This is the best thing ever.

00;34;18;28 - 00;34;22;20
Mark
Okay, First of all, if you're doing the science, you all that.

00;34;22;25 - 00;34;24;16
Sarah
Is that like a legit requirement?

00;34;24;16 - 00;34;28;09
Mark
Yes. How do you keep the connection if you don't hold it?

00;34;28;11 - 00;34;29;09
Sarah
I didn't know that.

00;34;29;09 - 00;34;30;29
Mark
Was a real Second of all.

00;34;31;00 - 00;34;37;03
Sarah
You say that like it's scientific fact that it won't work. This thing that doesn't really work.

00;34;37;04 - 00;34;41;05
Mark
Even Doctor Burrito Wicked Giant brain knows that.

00;34;41;08 - 00;34;47;24
Sarah
Well, that's why, you know, Miss Pencil can't know it. Her name sounds like stationary, and she's a woman, so she's.

00;34;47;26 - 00;34;50;27
Mark
At first I'm like, how do they get in?

00;34;51;00 - 00;34;52;09
Both
Where are they?

00;34;52;11 - 00;34;54;04
Sarah
They've got to be in her room and the.

00;34;54;07 - 00;34;58;06
Mark
In their room at the institute. I think her covers go her below.

00;34;58;08 - 00;35;05;02
Sarah
If the cops are sitting in her room, you're having a chance late at night. Maybe they snuck in that window that's open behind them.

00;35;05;07 - 00;35;10;10
Mark
Well, let's turn up the gas lamp up and down, up and down.

00;35;10;12 - 00;35;15;12
Sarah
But it's a wick and an oil lamp. Yeah, You can't do that unless you actually touch the knob, honey.

00;35;15;15 - 00;35;18;18
Mark
I know. Can you smell that?

00;35;18;21 - 00;35;25;15
Sarah
Bracken means like. Sorry, that was me. Margaret's for making beans again. It was me.

00;35;25;17 - 00;35;28;11
Mark
How does she know this without having psychic powers?

00;35;28;13 - 00;35;42;05
Sarah
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how she finds out that there was a fire in a building on Wickham that they. They then the police then find out that it's Sophia Chaucer who died there.

00;35;42;05 - 00;35;45;24
Mark
What do you do in sleep? It was just murder, cream and green all the time.

00;35;46;00 - 00;35;48;21
Sarah
I don't know. But the houses in that building or.

00;35;48;26 - 00;35;55;27
Mark
Okay, there's. So this is a green thing, but that hallway, they use it 15 ways sideways.

00;35;55;27 - 00;35;56;15
Sarah
Oh, yeah.

00;35;56;20 - 00;35;58;06
Mark
It is the same hallway.

00;35;58;12 - 00;36;13;22
Sarah
It is a building made up of one room and two hallways intersect each other. Yeah, that have gothic vaulted entries. All the doors have a point at the top. I don't know what this building is, but, man, they made use of that hallway. So then the reason was.

00;36;13;22 - 00;36;15;18
Mark
Burned beyond recognition.

00;36;15;20 - 00;36;16;22
Sarah
So how do they know it was her?

00;36;16;22 - 00;36;18;15
Mark
I don't know.

00;36;18;17 - 00;36;25;19
Sarah
She was the only crazy person locked in that building when we torched it. So it must have been her. Oh, she used it. I just give too much away.

00;36;25;23 - 00;36;30;19
Mark
She used to go around today day with the cloak on shooting people with their bow and arrow going.

00;36;30;19 - 00;36;37;02
Sarah
Who are you again? Who are you again? So, Murdoch and Miss Pencil run into the Reaper.

00;36;37;09 - 00;36;39;21
Both
Yes, Like, just look at his shoes.

00;36;39;23 - 00;36;47;03
Sarah
It's Bennie. Those are Bennie Shoes. Benny's white cuffs. He's got a callus from his belt. Yeah, it's him.

00;36;47;06 - 00;36;49;13
Mark
Yeah, like, totally.

00;36;49;15 - 00;36;52;21
Sarah
Where does he keep the bolts? Does he have a pocket in his room.

00;36;52;23 - 00;36;58;12
Mark
For Benny's ballpark? No, in the bag, Betty Bolt.

00;36;58;14 - 00;37;01;23
Sarah
But he doesn't have a bag. Oh.

00;37;01;25 - 00;37;06;10
Mark
He. The music here gets into the bum, bum bum bum bum, bum.

00;37;06;10 - 00;37;30;04
Sarah
Bum, bum. Oh, yeah. Because he's about to be shot. Yeah. And Murdock just charges around like after pencil says you're going to be shot. He should be wearing, like, armor. Something under his vest, like medieval armor or something. The first time I saw this episode and he got shot, I thought, But he's not going to die, so he must have, like, a vest on something.

00;37;30;06 - 00;37;31;26
Mark
You know, like. And that's a great.

00;37;31;28 - 00;37;36;15
Sarah
I have a copy of Darwin tucked in my pocket and kids spotted the book.

00;37;36;17 - 00;37;39;25
Mark
It's a great Murdoch invention thing.

00;37;39;29 - 00;37;51;15
Sarah
Oh yeah. That he could have had something like that protected. Yeah. To show that he actually took the psychic seriously. Yeah. Or he wouldn't have been wearing it. Yeah, they missed. They missed an opportunity there.

00;37;51;16 - 00;38;00;03
Mark
So he finds a feather in Grayson's office, and then there's this implication that they find the reaper outfit, too.

00;38;00;05 - 00;38;01;04
Sarah
We never see that.

00;38;01;04 - 00;38;05;03
Mark
Yeah, that got dropped from the cutting room.

00;38;05;08 - 00;38;15;21
Sarah
So Beeny plants part of a bolt and the hood. Yeah. The cloak in Grayson's office clearly wants Grayson to get in trouble rather than killing him.

00;38;15;21 - 00;38;18;09
Mark
You got nothing on me, Coppers.

00;38;18;11 - 00;38;22;16
Sarah
He is utterly reprehensible. Grayson is just horrible.

00;38;22;16 - 00;38;25;18
Mark
Oh, surgeries. The risk. Especially when I poker I.

00;38;25;18 - 00;38;36;22
Sarah
Yeah. Yeah. Like, well, not to me. It's not a risk to me, It's a risk to the person that I'm operating on in the basement of a lodge. What the hell goes on the lodge, anyway?

00;38;36;22 - 00;38;37;04
Mark
I don't.

00;38;37;04 - 00;38;39;29
Sarah
Know. Is this like a masonic lodge that he rents.

00;38;40;06 - 00;38;43;22
Mark
Base of its time? So what?

00;38;43;25 - 00;39;02;15
Sarah
Yeah. You removed a woman's mind from her years ahead of your time. Okay. We find out that Sophia, Chaucer's parents are dead. Your mom died in childbirth, and her dad died of complications from Kenzi. Yeah, Which is the most disgusting tonsillitis you can get.

00;39;02;15 - 00;39;10;12
Mark
Oh, my gosh. It is an abscess that forms between one of your tonsils in the wall of your throat.

00;39;10;12 - 00;39;21;16
Sarah
I thought you were going to say toenail your toenail and your tongue falls somewhere in there. That's a lot of room there. That's a big obsessive. It takes all that space.

00;39;21;18 - 00;39;25;16
Mark
Commonly affects teenagers and young adults. Well.

00;39;25;18 - 00;39;35;02
Sarah
And if it busts, you can aspirate and drown on your own pus. Yes. Oh, some. What a way to die of the worst sore throat in existence.

00;39;35;02 - 00;39;37;04
Mark
By the way, Jason also was an archer.

00;39;37;04 - 00;39;40;23
Sarah
Chaucer? Yes, Chaucer. Yeah, but she. She shot a real bow.

00;39;40;29 - 00;39;46;20
Mark
Yes. The blackboard that is in Murdoch's room is now working on how to estimate time of death.

00;39;46;20 - 00;39;54;09
Sarah
Yeah, it's ancient temperature and rigor mortis. I don't know why they let a woman have a bow. I mean, we're too stupid.

00;39;54;14 - 00;39;58;15
Mark
It says in the article that she was a world champion.

00;39;58;22 - 00;39;59;11
Sarah
Yeah.

00;39;59;13 - 00;40;05;03
Mark
Like her name should be the Archer, comma Sophia Chaucer.

00;40;05;03 - 00;40;10;18
Sarah
Yeah, And nobody missed her when she missing after having her lobotomy or whatever.

00;40;10;18 - 00;40;12;08
Mark
World champion.

00;40;12;08 - 00;40;26;04
Sarah
Yeah, She was special. And Benny's kind of Avenger. Yeah, And he shoots Murdock. But then Miss Pringle, she of the chip fortune bashes him on the head. That's for my non monocle wearing dad with a mustache.

00;40;26;06 - 00;40;31;13
Mark
Well, no he takes the crossbow out from under his bed.

00;40;31;19 - 00;40;32;06
Sarah
Mm.

00;40;32;08 - 00;40;34;16
Mark
Would they have not a search that.

00;40;34;18 - 00;40;38;14
Sarah
No, they're not going to search the paralyzed guy's room. What could he have?

00;40;38;15 - 00;40;39;06
Mark
Okay, but.

00;40;39;13 - 00;40;40;09
Sarah
Come on, Mark.

00;40;40;09 - 00;40;42;09
Mark
That's not how search works.

00;40;42;09 - 00;40;44;22
Sarah
It's how Henry and George do it.

00;40;44;25 - 00;40;51;12
Mark
There's kind of a when he's running, he kind of skids. Do it. There's kind of a moment.

00;40;51;13 - 00;41;02;14
Sarah
Yeah, he's. He's athletic. For a guy who doesn't move 23 hours a day. Yeah, he's pretty agile. And he does that magic hair putty. He was good for you.

00;41;02;16 - 00;41;05;06
Mark
And Murdoch gets shot.

00;41;05;08 - 00;41;06;14
Sarah
But he survives.

00;41;06;18 - 00;41;08;20
Mark
Well, the show is named after him, so.

00;41;08;20 - 00;41;10;07
Sarah
It kind of sucks if he dies.

00;41;10;10 - 00;41;13;04
Mark
Don't think he's going to die.

00;41;13;07 - 00;41;18;09
Sarah
He's got to use a cane. It's pretty amazing that he gets shot and it misses of his important organs.

00;41;18;09 - 00;41;23;04
Mark
Yeah. Okay. So first of all, obviously, Miss Pencil has invited him out to talk.

00;41;23;06 - 00;41;24;00
Both
Mhm.

00;41;24;03 - 00;41;32;19
Mark
Why did she choose to invite him out to like a park far away from everything.

00;41;32;22 - 00;41;54;27
Sarah
Let's meet on this promontory that you can only walk up a hill to get to and no vehicles can get there. That's a perfect place to meet that cover from your being shot with a crossbow. And she worried about her hat flying away or what? So it's like a it's like a a derby, but it's like tied to her head so tight.

00;41;55;00 - 00;41;56;09
Mark
It's a weird.

00;41;56;12 - 00;41;59;12
Sarah
I like that hat is about to take.

00;41;59;12 - 00;42;00;27
Both
Off or something.

00;42;01;03 - 00;42;20;08
Mark
So then and this is what comes to my end comments for the whole episode is this is an episode written by a writer who's new to writing television. MM Because she says the thing that I hate, which is it's a gift and a curse like that is a cliche.

00;42;20;08 - 00;42;21;05
Sarah
Yeah.

00;42;21;07 - 00;42;38;14
Mark
And then she does. In the next sentence she explains it's a gift and the curse. And they could have easily cut that line about the gift and the curse. Yeah, it's a great example of show. Don't tell. Yeah, she shows in the second sentence but tells in the first sentence.

00;42;38;16 - 00;43;00;05
Sarah
But the same writer does an awesome thing with Julia here. Yes. And 99.9% of shows Julia would have walked behind Miss Pencil and Murdoch talking and went, Huh. I guess he's into her and walked off in a snoot. And then not talked to him for three episodes. Yeah, but Julia doesn't do that. She walks right over and says hello.

00;43;00;07 - 00;43;07;17
Mark
And sits down and they have a murdoch sandwich.

00;43;07;19 - 00;43;10;27
Sarah
Julius wearing a boater, and she doesn't tie hers down?

00;43;10;27 - 00;43;14;14
Mark
No, she doesn't. She couldn't stand the wind of the boat.

00;43;14;14 - 00;43;17;10
Sarah
She is confident. Yes, security of her hat.

00;43;17;10 - 00;43;20;11
Mark
But Julia clearly hates her way.

00;43;20;13 - 00;43;24;19
Sarah
Well, yeah, She's like, yeah, goodbye. I go to Prague. It's great there. Don't come back.

00;43;24;22 - 00;43;42;01
Mark
Anyway, she she's nice. But then Murdoch does the absolute right thing which is turns around and says tell me everything about him. And she says he has a journal. She has a journal. And he says, I'd love to read.

00;43;42;01 - 00;43;45;19
Sarah
It, which is like, Let me go see your underwear drawer.

00;43;45;21 - 00;43;49;21
Mark
Which I think she implies. Like, she's like, Oh, yeah.

00;43;49;24 - 00;43;51;19
Sarah
Really? Maybe.

00;43;51;21 - 00;43;54;26
Mark
Maybe exit. That is a perfect ending.

00;43;55;00 - 00;43;58;19
Sarah
And okay, so Murdoch is not into Miss Pencil.

00;43;58;20 - 00;43;59;03
Mark
No.

00;43;59;09 - 00;44;00;05
Sarah
Assignments, pens.

00;44;00;05 - 00;44;01;22
Mark
I thought I thought.

00;44;01;22 - 00;44;02;26
Sarah
She and him.

00;44;02;26 - 00;44;07;00
Mark
I thought there was a whole bunch more. Murdoch Miss Pencil.

00;44;07;03 - 00;44;15;15
Sarah
Well, she comes back. She does I she's psychic, so she knows the future and she knows that Murdoch and Julia belong together.

00;44;15;17 - 00;44;16;07
Mark
Yeah.

00;44;16;09 - 00;44;20;12
Sarah
So I think she knows better than to interfere, but I think she does.

00;44;20;15 - 00;44;28;15
Mark
Like, I appreciate him. We said that we weren't going to do spoilers, but. Okay. A blind, stupid person named Doctor Burrito.

00;44;28;15 - 00;44;38;25
Sarah
We know that Murdoch and Julia eventually will have a relationship. Yes. Yes, they will. And I think Miss Pencil being a psychic knows that she has no place in that.

00;44;38;26 - 00;44;41;07
Mark
Yes, I agree with all of that.

00;44;41;07 - 00;44;47;04
Sarah
So she's going to go to Prague with her strapped down hat. Maybe she has that hat on because she's going on a boat.

00;44;47;04 - 00;44;48;02
Mark
Maybe.

00;44;48;02 - 00;44;50;22
Sarah
Like an open air boat or something.

00;44;50;23 - 00;44;54;13
Mark
How long would it get take to get to Prague?

00;44;54;15 - 00;44;59;27
Sarah
Not that long. And most of it would be interior rivers, I would think. Wouldn't that? And you're.

00;44;59;27 - 00;45;02;29
Mark
Wrong. She is in two episodes that.

00;45;03;01 - 00;45;03;18
Sarah
Really.

00;45;03;18 - 00;45;04;14
Mark
We never seen.

00;45;04;14 - 00;45;05;21
Sarah
I thought she was in more episodes.

00;45;05;21 - 00;45;12;10
Mark
I thought she was in more episodes and I thought there was far more flirtation going on with Michelle.

00;45;12;10 - 00;45;16;11
Sarah
I didn't think there was that, but I thought there was at least one more with her in it. I'm imagining.

00;45;16;11 - 00;45;16;18
Both
That.

00;45;16;18 - 00;45;17;28
Mark
Yeah, So. So did.

00;45;17;28 - 00;45;24;12
Sarah
I. So we're left with these questions. Are psychics real? And Murdoch So in this episode, Yes.

00;45;24;14 - 00;45;29;13
Mark
So this is my theory. Every show is a Bible, okay? It describes all the characters.

00;45;29;13 - 00;45;30;24
Sarah
The rules of the world, the.

00;45;30;24 - 00;45;31;20
Mark
Rules of the world.

00;45;31;20 - 00;45;32;01
Sarah
Yes.

00;45;32;08 - 00;45;42;16
Mark
And I think everyone assumed that that supernatural stuff was off the table. And this writer wrote this episode and they were like, we need to put that thing in the Bible.

00;45;42;24 - 00;45;43;21
Both
Yeah.

00;45;43;23 - 00;45;50;16
Sarah
I think there were probably logical explanations for how she would have known things, but they got cut. Yes, that's what I.

00;45;50;17 - 00;45;51;21
Mark
I also think that.

00;45;51;26 - 00;45;55;29
Sarah
Poussin's the letter we're seeing Venetians letter sent the letter. Okay.

00;45;56;01 - 00;45;59;19
Mark
Did the whole Dora episode with Benny.

00;45;59;22 - 00;46;02;10
Sarah
Did Benny write the letters on the Rock?

00;46;02;15 - 00;46;03;29
Mark
I'm assuming Benny wrote them.

00;46;03;29 - 00;46;12;25
Sarah
I think he had to have had to. Of How long was Benny an institution? We think two years. Yeah. Why did he wait so long to strike?

00;46;12;25 - 00;46;19;22
Mark
Well, I think he had to really investigate Dr. Burrito.

00;46;19;24 - 00;46;21;21
Sarah
I think he was a coward.

00;46;21;24 - 00;46;24;23
Mark
Oh, but he's certainly crazy now.

00;46;24;26 - 00;46;38;14
Sarah
And I think he was afraid to take action. And I think Mr. Season three D Mr. Nesbitt was working on his wheelchair and figured out he could move and he so he had to do something and he's like, okay, now's the time.

00;46;38;22 - 00;46;39;13
Mark
I think I'm.

00;46;39;13 - 00;46;41;29
Sarah
Not going to be able to pull this off much longer.

00;46;42;01 - 00;46;53;17
Mark
We didn't talk about it, but also when Miss Pencil finally figures out that it's him and he's revealed as someone who can talk and move, it is the most expected reveal ever.

00;46;53;17 - 00;46;54;13
Sarah
Oh yeah.

00;46;54;15 - 00;46;57;07
Mark
Yeah. It's again, it goes back to.

00;46;57;07 - 00;46;57;22
Sarah
You're not like.

00;46;57;22 - 00;46;58;28
Mark
Christie. Whoa.

00;46;58;29 - 00;46;59;21
Sarah
Really? He can.

00;46;59;21 - 00;47;00;06
Both
Move.

00;47;00;07 - 00;47;03;26
Mark
It's a character in a wheelchair. Yeah.

00;47;03;29 - 00;47;10;08
Sarah
I bet she can walk. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Best corpse grout, Nesbitt or Barrington.

00;47;10;11 - 00;47;14;20
Mark
I kind of like Barrington on the park bench, Dad. Yeah, Yeah.

00;47;14;26 - 00;47;18;13
Sarah
I'm going to go grout. Okay. Just because he has to run with arrows in his.

00;47;18;13 - 00;47;21;29
Mark
Back and they can't bounce. Yeah, he can't be like.

00;47;22;02 - 00;47;30;23
Sarah
Remember, these are just duct taped to my jacket arrows, and he has to, like, he screams and begs, and then he gets shot again and has to go face down.

00;47;30;25 - 00;47;31;23
Mark
Yeah.

00;47;31;25 - 00;47;32;22
Sarah
After the credits.

00;47;32;25 - 00;47;36;26
Mark
Mr. Pencil goes to Prague and is never heard of again.

00;47;36;29 - 00;47;37;25
Sarah
What about her hat?

00;47;37;26 - 00;47;38;29
Mark
Mark? My name.

00;47;39;00 - 00;47;41;21
Sarah
Is Grayson. Going to keep the institute?

00;47;41;23 - 00;47;57;08
Mark
I hope so. In that he can turn into an actual scientist and learn some things in the future. Now that the mental institute is kind replaced in season two with another mental institute run by a much cooler cat.

00;47;57;10 - 00;47;59;27
Sarah
So I think Ms.. Pringle's going to leave.

00;47;59;27 - 00;48;01;02
Mark
I think so because.

00;48;01;02 - 00;48;05;15
Sarah
She doesn't need to be there. No, and I don't know about Horton. He's probably going to stay.

00;48;05;16 - 00;48;06;06
Both
Yeah.

00;48;06;08 - 00;48;14;06
Sarah
Knowing high society at this point, Grayson is just going to brush this off and say, Oh, Benny was just way farther sick than we knew.

00;48;14;07 - 00;48;25;06
Mark
Knowing what I do, particularly about 19th century asylums, don't even get me started then. I know this is not an asylum, but they are treated so fantastically well.

00;48;25;06 - 00;48;28;19
Sarah
It's because they're rich. Yeah, and they're voluntary.

00;48;28;23 - 00;48;30;07
Mark
It's rich and voluntary.

00;48;30;07 - 00;48;36;20
Sarah
Yeah, right. I mean, misspent just walks in and goes, Can I stay here? Oh, they're like, Well, you've got money. So. Yeah, yeah.

00;48;36;21 - 00;48;37;19
Mark
Rich white.

00;48;37;19 - 00;48;39;28
Sarah
And you have a nice hat so you can stay.

00;48;39;28 - 00;48;41;28
Mark
Yeah. And their white, feathery hat.

00;48;41;29 - 00;48;44;11
Sarah
Yeah. You want to hold séances in your room? That's cool.

00;48;44;11 - 00;48;48;05
Mark
It's okay. So since Brackenridge doesn't fart.

00;48;48;08 - 00;48;51;28
Sarah
Smells like smoke, I have a horrible movie for you.

00;48;51;29 - 00;48;54;28
Mark
Okay, Hit us up with the horrible movie.

00;48;55;00 - 00;49;05;05
Sarah
I am so confident that you have not seen this movie. Okay. I am, like, supremely confident even it's from 2020. Oh, yeah. It is.

00;49;05;05 - 00;49;06;03
Mark
Endemic movie.

00;49;06;03 - 00;49;09;19
Sarah
It is recent. Yeah. And I'm going to say you didn't see it.

00;49;09;21 - 00;49;10;19
Mark
Okay.

00;49;10;21 - 00;49;14;08
Sarah
So Stephen Bogart, who plays Benny the Killer, is in this movie.

00;49;14;10 - 00;49;14;21
Mark
In this.

00;49;14;21 - 00;49;17;26
Sarah
Movie. Okay. Are you ready for this? For the description of the movie?

00;49;17;26 - 00;49;23;14
Mark
Okay, Hit me. I have not looked unnamed. Be at him or anything like that.

00;49;23;14 - 00;49;28;16
Sarah
Okay. When I possessed pair of jeans begins to kill the staff. What's trending?

00;49;28;19 - 00;49;30;02
Mark
Whoa.

00;49;30;04 - 00;49;33;14
Sarah
Yeah, you heard me. A possessed pair of jeans.

00;49;33;17 - 00;49;36;02
Mark
Like blue jeans? Yes. Okay.

00;49;36;04 - 00;49;41;00
Sarah
Wait till you see the stills from this movie. It's amazing when a possessed.

00;49;41;01 - 00;49;46;08
Mark
The sisterhood of the murder.

00;49;46;10 - 00;50;06;08
Sarah
Yes, it is. How a pair of jeans draws blood. I don't know. It can only strangle people. I mean, that's all I can do best. Maybe when a possessed pair of jeans begins to kill the staff of a trendy clothing store, it's up to Libby, an idealistic young sales clerk, to stop its bloody rampage.

00;50;06;08 - 00;50;08;28
Mark
How does it be best? How is it bloody?

00;50;08;28 - 00;50;11;20
Sarah
I don't know. Oh.

00;50;11;22 - 00;50;14;04
Mark
Who possesses a pair of pants? I don't.

00;50;14;04 - 00;50;14;17
Sarah
Know.

00;50;14;17 - 00;50;15;14
Mark
Demon, if.

00;50;15;21 - 00;50;17;05
Sarah
I'm guessing you haven't seen it.

00;50;17;11 - 00;50;18;00
Mark
No.

00;50;18;00 - 00;50;19;10
Sarah
See, you don't know what it's called.

00;50;19;11 - 00;50;21;27
Mark
No. Sisterhood of the murdering.

00;50;22;00 - 00;50;29;04
Sarah
Do you give up. Yeah. It's Called slacks, SLA, ex, ex wife. Oh, yeah.

00;50;29;06 - 00;50;32;07
Mark
Oh, I got to look this movie up, man.

00;50;32;14 - 00;50;55;12
Sarah
The stills of the jeans flying through the air. People are just fantastic. And somehow some guy gets absolutely covered in blood. I don't know if, like, can the jeans we all do weapons or something? I don't know. Wow. Yeah. And the pandemic doesn't explain it because it would have been filmed before, you know? So it wasn't like somebody in a fever dream made this movie.

00;50;55;15 - 00;50;58;00
Sarah
Oh, slacks. So a x.

00;50;58;02 - 00;51;06;03
Mark
Oh, I'm putting this movie poster on in the show notes, too, because it is also a fantastic movie poster.

00;51;06;05 - 00;51;08;00
Sarah
There's a point for me that.

00;51;08;00 - 00;51;08;28
Mark
Is the point three, because.

00;51;08;28 - 00;51;11;11
Sarah
That is a horrible movie that you have not seen.

00;51;11;11 - 00;51;12;13
Mark
I've not seen.

00;51;12;17 - 00;51;13;23
Sarah
You have not seen.

00;51;13;25 - 00;51;15;05
Both
Stacks.

00;51;15;07 - 00;51;19;29
Sarah
You have to pronounce to access. It looks kind of like a Gap store to.

00;51;20;05 - 00;51;22;01
Mark
Yeah, it kind of does.

00;51;22;08 - 00;51;25;29
Sarah
All right. What's next week? So episode 12.

00;51;26;00 - 00;51;37;26
Mark
Next week, Episode 12 The Prince and the Rebel. It's not a bonkers episode like this episode is a bonkers episode, but it is bonkers. It's really a George episode.

00;51;37;28 - 00;51;46;07
Sarah
Oh, I just figured out something amazing. Why it wasn't Benny or Ben. He's not the killer, Ben. He's wearing possessed pants.

00;51;46;09 - 00;51;48;02
Mark
That's what makes him look that.

00;51;48;02 - 00;51;50;25
Sarah
Get him up out of the chair and make him kill.

00;51;50;27 - 00;51;51;23
Mark
There we go.

00;51;51;23 - 00;51;52;22
Sarah
I figured it out.

00;51;52;22 - 00;51;53;23
Mark
Yes. Yes, you did.

00;51;53;23 - 00;51;54;13
Sarah
Solution.

00;51;54;16 - 00;52;08;18
Mark
So the the prince in the Rebel is all about Irish independence and the royalty. But really, it's an excuse for the Prince of Wales to come to Toronto and party.

00;52;08;20 - 00;52;11;01
Sarah
And for Crabtree to have to keep track.

00;52;11;04 - 00;52;11;24
Mark
Keep track.

00;52;12;01 - 00;52;12;27
Sarah
Keep him out of trouble.

00;52;12;27 - 00;52;25;19
Mark
So. So then after that June 5th, we will be releasing episode 13, which is the final episode of Season one Be Annoying Red Planet, which is one of our favorite episodes.

00;52;25;20 - 00;52;26;20
Sarah
So good.

00;52;26;22 - 00;52;33;13
Mark
Now we have some also amazing stuff coming down the pipe. Yes, absolutely. Super cool.

00;52;33;13 - 00;52;36;21
Sarah
Yes, I'm top secret interviews and we're not going to tell you about.

00;52;36;21 - 00;52;40;28
Mark
Yeah, it's going to end the calendar there, but stay like.

00;52;41;01 - 00;52;42;01
Sarah
We're not going away.

00;52;42;02 - 00;52;45;27
Mark
The June newsletter is one to be watching. Yeah, Yeah. To what I'm saying.

00;52;45;28 - 00;52;47;02
Sarah
Bombshells.

00;52;47;02 - 00;52;51;04
Mark
Yep. So you do an interview with a movie star and other people come calling?

00;52;51;04 - 00;52;52;14
Sarah
Yeah, for sure.

00;52;52;21 - 00;52;54;06
Mark
Absolutely. Fantastic.

00;52;54;06 - 00;52;55;21
Sarah
All right, Where can they find us?

00;52;55;23 - 00;53;08;19
Mark
They can find us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and email for all the things of Mystery Maniacs podcast, as well as on YouTube. And if you're listening to us on YouTube, please like and subscribe.

00;53;08;21 - 00;53;11;09
Sarah
There's also a subreddit. Yes, there's a.

00;53;11;12 - 00;53;12;23
Mark
Subreddit obsessed.

00;53;12;23 - 00;53;13;22
Sarah
Pants, if you want.

00;53;13;22 - 00;53;25;10
Mark
About possessed pants and all those good things. Please, if you are listening on YouTube, please subscribe because we're about 80% of the people who watch on YouTube or not subscribe.

00;53;25;13 - 00;53;27;02
Sarah
So yeah. And it matters.

00;53;27;02 - 00;53;43;11
Mark
Yeah, it matters to us. Yes. Oh, and we're almost done. The the 31st of May, which is about a little over a week away, will be our last sort of raising money through merch for.

00;53;43;14 - 00;53;44;26
Sarah
Target, ovarian cancer.

00;53;44;26 - 00;53;56;06
Mark
Ovarian cancer. And then we have another charity already chosen for the second half of the year. And then we're also we got to tell you, folks, we're not exactly pleased with Red Shirt.

00;53;56;08 - 00;53;56;29
Sarah
Yeah.

00;53;57;01 - 00;54;11;07
Mark
We're we're having some with them. And to me, they take a little too much off the top and take too long to get products out. Yeah. So we're investigating other methods of getting products to you. Yes.

00;54;11;14 - 00;54;16;13
Sarah
So we can have a broader diversity of merch that is more reliably delivered at a lower price.

00;54;16;13 - 00;54;17;19
Mark
At a lower price. Yeah.

00;54;17;19 - 00;54;24;16
Sarah
So, so we'll let you know. But in the meantime it is perfectly fine to buy stuff from there. Yeah, the proceeds will still go to the right price, still.

00;54;24;16 - 00;54;42;07
Mark
Going to the right place, which is target ovarian cancer. Again, if you haven't listened to it, go listen to the Annette Badland pie interview. Many people have said. Many people have said this is the most concise explanation of ovarian cancer symptoms that they've ever heard.

00;54;42;07 - 00;54;43;23
Sarah
Yeah, and she's really fun.

00;54;43;23 - 00;54;46;03
Mark
And she's spectacularly fun.

00;54;46;03 - 00;55;11;08
Sarah
Yes. All right. Until next time by maniac. Bye, Maniacs. Wow, that joke just fell flat.