Episode 167 - Murdoch Mysteries - "The Annoying Red Planet" - There’s Only One Shack In Jerseyville

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Sarah
You know? Yeah, exactly. Hey, maniac.

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Mark
Hey, me.

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Sarah
Okay, That was a little long.

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Mark
Just having fun with you.

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Sarah
Just having fun with it is okay.

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Mark
Mystery Maniacs is a comedy recap podcast dedicated to mystery TV. Each week we dig into an episode of the show, including the murders, the mayhem, the loonies. Oh, boy. They're looking at everything else we love this week. Murdoch Mysteries Season one Episode 13 The Annoying Red Planet.

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Sarah
Oh, it's so annoying.

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Mark
It's so annoying.

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Sarah
No.

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Mark
If you let your children go to Mars.

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Sarah
No. If you let them suck out people's viscera with the shot back. Yeah. They can watch.

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Mark
Those things.

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Sarah
In this.

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Mark
Episode. Listen to this episode.

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Sarah
I'm Sarah.

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Mark
And I'm.

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Sarah
Mark, and we're going to spoil this. So if you haven't seen this episode, The Annoying Red Planet, then pause. Now go watch it and come back because we're going to ruin it for you.

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Mark
Oh. It's kind of weird at the end.

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Sarah
Yeah. Yeah. You think so?

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Mark
It's a little weird. More than a little couple of bits of business beforehand. We are preparing and collecting and getting ready to send off a donation to Target ovarian cancer from your merch sales from the first six months of the year. For the second six months of the year, we will be raising money for Partners in Health.

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Sarah
Mm hmm.

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Mark
Partners in Health is respond to the maternal health emergency in Sierra Leone. You may have heard of them through the Vlog brothers, which is YouTube sensation.

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Sarah
John Green and his brother. Yes.

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Mark
Who's just diagnosed with cancer.

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Sarah
So everybody's talking about that. Yeah, they have a great video on YouTube of the hospital. They're building.

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Mark
They're building a.

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Sarah
Hospital. I've been getting socks from their awesome soccer club for over a year now. Two years. And the proceeds of that go to Partners in Health to like.

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Mark
If you if you need some convincing that this is an important thing. The maternal deaths per 100,000 in the United States is 19. Mm hmm. In Sierra Leone in 2019, it was 1120.

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Sarah
Out of.

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Mark
100,000.

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Sarah
100,000. Okay. Yeah. You said 100. No, No. Wow. For every 10,000 patients, they have.

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Mark
A quarter of a doctor and nine nurses. That's it.

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Sarah
For 10,000.

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Mark
People. Wow. And then one in 17 women in Sierra Leone is at risk of death during pregnancy.

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Sarah
That's so scary.

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Mark
So they're building the hospital. They're helping women. They're helping little babies.

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Sarah
Babies, babies.

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Mark
And if you watch the video, they're also educating and training women in Sierra Leone to build the hospital.

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Sarah
Yeah, all kinds of construction jobs.

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Mark
Yeah.

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Sarah
Skilled labor jobs. Absolutely.

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Mark
Fantastic.

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Sarah
So that's where our merch sales profits are going to go for the second six months of this year. So go buy yourself a murder, mayhem, loonies and everything else. We love T-shirt. Yes.

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Mark
Somebody asked if we could get it printed with light writing instead of dark writing. Yes, they wanted to on a and a shirt that was reversed. Yeah. So we put that up in the shop sometime this week.

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Sarah
Yep. I already prep that file. You just didn't post it yet, so happy to do it. We also have an exciting announcement about our next episode.

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Mark
From our next episode is another interview with a person on a television show. I cannot believe I'm saying that.

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Sarah
Yes. And that Badland was excellent. And next, we're going to interview Jerry Woo.

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Mark
Woo, who plays.

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Sarah
Felix.

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Mark
Livingston.

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Sarah
On Sister Bonus.

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Mark
Sister Bond.

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Sarah
He's the young police sergeant.

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Mark
Yes. And he's a fantastic young man, remember? And we're going to interview him and post that. That will be going out on June the 12th.

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Sarah
Yep.

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Mark
Then we're going to take a week off and then return on June 26th with Murdoch Mysteries. Season two Episode one Mile Mile West. Yeah, we're going to do season two of Murdoch, then we'll reevaluate, you know.

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Sarah
No, we're not. And we're not saying that we're all we're going to do all six seasons of Murdoch, but we're going to go ahead and do season two. Everybody seems to be having fun with it.

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Mark
So everybody seems now.

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Sarah
However, if Midsomer Murders episodes dropped from the sky. Richard Scratch, stop.

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Mark
Whatever we're doing, they take precedent.

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Sarah
They always take precedence. So don't worry.

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Mark
We'll get there.

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Sarah
Yes, absolutely. Oh, and happy anniversary.

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Mark
Happy anniversary is our 15th anniversary today that we're recording.

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Sarah
Our wedding anniversary. Yes, I've been doing a podcast. No, no, that'd be kind of crazy.

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Mark
No, though our fourth anniversary will be in July.

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Sarah
That's crazy.

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Mark
That's insane.

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Sarah
Wow. Not as insane as this episode.

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Mark
Oh, boy. Martian originally aired April 13, 2008, directed by Sean Thompson, who has a heavy hand in this episode and written by Paul Aikens.

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Sarah
So this episode.

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Mark
The name of this episode is The Annoying Red Planet. Do you know why it's called that? No, it is clearly.

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Sarah
I mean, Mars is the red planet.

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Mark
Yes, but it's clearly taking off a 1959 movie called The Angry Red Planet.

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Sarah
Oh, is that about Mars, too?

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Mark
Yes, One of two one of only two survivors from the Martian expedition is so traumatized she doesn't remember the circumstances of the trip. It is fantastic. 1959.

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Sarah
Sci fi is angry.

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Mark
Oh, no. They admit the Martians are very angry. No.

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Sarah
Of course they.

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Mark
Are. But it's a really well-known kind of B-movie from the fifties, and it's just spectacularly goofy. And their suits are weird. And like, all the things they see on Mars are like, you're like, No, no, no, that's not the way it is. And there's this big, crazy kind of mouse bat spider thing.

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Sarah
Mouse Bad spider. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's something I don't want to see. Yeah. Thing of nightmares. Yeah.

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Mark
It's pretty scary.

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Sarah
So mouse and bat are pretty close, but then you add the spider thing in and I'm out.

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Mark
Stars Gerald Moore. Nora Hayden. Unless true me. Have you never heard of any of those people?

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Sarah
Never.

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Mark
That gives you an indication of that movie.

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Sarah
So this episode is the last in season one. And if you've never watched Murdoch and you don't know, this is kind of the introduction to an important recurring character and recurring plot. So we get this is the intro to Terence Myers.

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Mark
Terence, my.

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Sarah
Who is not a good guy, not a bad guy, but he's always up to something and he represents the government. So he's like CIA guy.

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Mark
Yeah, he's the equivalent of a spy that works for the government.

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Sarah
Yes. Who is constantly coming to Murdoch to have them help with stuff. So this is where we meet him for the first time, which is fantastic.

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Mark
Another thing.

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Sarah
You're not supposed to like him. So no, you if you hate him, then that's okay, because that's kind of.

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Mark
If you hate him now.

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Sarah
Oh, just wait betting here.

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Mark
You got to learn to love him at some point.

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Sarah
This he's awesome. He's horribly good. Bad guy.

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Mark
Yeah. Just another thing off the top. All the Canadians who watch this episode, especially those from Ontario, we're probably going. That's nowhere near that. And that is nowhere near that. Okay. The geography of this episode is completely wrong. The Rouge River Valley does exist. Jersey Bill does exist. They exist maybe 250 miles apart.

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Sarah
You mean they're not 20 miles outside of Toronto?

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Mark
Yeah, the jurisdiction of Moore, of Murdoch to do this is weird.

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Sarah
This is suspend geographical disbelief.

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Mark
Where the office of that land management company is. Where is that office know?

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Sarah
Yeah.

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Mark
So I just I just wanted to say off the top that all of the geography is wrong for this episode.

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Sarah
Does the Rouge Valley at least have a big dam or anything? No, no, it's not a reservoir. So it never happened? Yes. Terrence Myers was fired. Yes. Okay. So just I just have to tell you this because I'm so excited to tell you this. The actor who plays Terrence Meier is his name is I'm going to say Callahan.

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Sarah
I'm going to guess that's how you pronounce his last name.

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Mark
Now, he's not a series regular in the future, but he is He's a recurring episode. But every insert, every season.

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Sarah
Yeah.

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Mark
Even if you think clearly, Terrence Meier could not survive this.

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Sarah
Yeah, then he just shows up. But the actor once said a movie I've never seen. And I'm surprised. I've never seen it called Duct tape Forever.

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Mark
Duct Tape Forever.

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Sarah
It is the red, green movie.

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Mark
Oh, yes. Duct tape forever.

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Sarah
The read from 2002. Yeah. If you've never seen Red Green. He is the Canadian.

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Mark
Tim the Tool man. Taylor. Yeah, but different.

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Sarah
But way goofier.

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Mark
Super goofy.

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Sarah
Funnier. Yeah, I we used to, we used to catch episodes in red green on our public broadcasting station and he used to say, if the ladies don't find you handsome, at least let him find your handy. I will never forget.

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Mark
Yeah, it's kind of like it is.

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Sarah
A low budget, goofy show. It's so funny.

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Mark
It's kind of a cornball comedy.

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Sarah
But very connected.

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Mark
With what it is.

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Sarah
So can you.

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Mark
Answer the very Canadian ism?

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Sarah
Yeah. So Terrance Myers is in the duct tape movie.

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Mark
I did not know that. Elmer's, stop.

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Sarah
I love I love Henry Gaston hanging from a tree. It's right off. It's weird. You can't explain it. And you're like, How are they going to get out of this?

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Mark
I don't want to get too close, Elmer.

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Sarah
So they're in Jersey ville, right? This is Jersey. Go back in time.

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Mark
No.

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Sarah
Okay. Because it looks like Pioneer Land.

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Mark
Well, well, so outside of Toronto, this is what Canada would look like.

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Sarah
Log cabins and bonnets.

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Mark
Yeah. Yeah.

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Sarah
Okay. Yeah, yeah. Because it's like 50 years behind Toronto.

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Mark
Yeah.

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Sarah
Like, I'm surprised they're not like, Hey, you newfangled coppers with your zip and stuff, you know, it's.

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Mark
Yeah, it's kind of like that.

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Sarah
Okay, so George has been called out because there's a crime, so I'm going to assume that in the world of Murdoch, the Toronto Constabulary is kind of like Scotland Yard in that they have a wide jurisdiction because they get called out for serious crimes in nearby areas, even if they aren't in Toronto. That's what I'm going to pretend happened and that's why they're out there.

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Sarah
Okay, So George gets called out because Henry Gaston is hanging from a tree and there and George says there are no footprints leading up to the tree in this newly plowed field. So how did he get up there?

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Mark
Yes. So there are two things that are interesting here to go right along with this. First is the director's hand in what's called a Zolli.

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Sarah
Okay.

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Mark
And what is all he is is you turn the zoom of the camera as you're moving the camera.

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Sarah
So it's Zoom plus dolly. Yes. So the camera's on a dolly. Yep. And it's moving backwards while it's zooming in. Both So we get this. Yeah. Zoom effect.

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Mark
Yes. And that's most well known for in the movie Vertigo and Jaws. There's a very big scene.

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Sarah
And because this has so much in common with Vertigo and John.

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Mark
Well, it's supposed to put you off. Put it. Yeah. And that's what it does make it immediately puts you off that because they're only referring to seeing Omri guy on the tree. You don't see him there. Like, I don't know what it is and.

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Sarah
You know, when we do see.

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Mark
So that's why they do that. Then you have to have talk about Henry and Chekhov's Criminal because Henry mentions this criminal and then it cleverly forgot. Yeah, we just watched 10 minutes.

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Sarah
We get this quick cut back to station four. It's like meanwhile at Station four, Henry is walking around going, Hey, there's a confidence man on the loose. Here's what he looks like. Everybody keep. Keep an eye out. Yep. Meanwhile, back in Jersey, though.

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Mark
There's a mob. Mom, I got the part there, too, right? Right at the of the.

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Sarah
Criminal that their.

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Mark
Managers like this grunting criminal. Yeah.

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Sarah
Through or I as soon as I hear guest on I can't not think of beauty and the beast because I'm broke and like that because there's the character in Beauty and the Beast in the the Disney cartoon version whose name is guest on.

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Mark
Who is Nothing like they scare. Oh gosh.

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Sarah
No.

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Mark
But I don't care. I thought the same thing.

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Sarah
It says.

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Mark
In my notes guys don't.

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Sarah
Because the song you know the no one's look as Gaston, no one's quick as Gaston, no one's neck is incredibly thick as Gaston. My favorite line of that is, he says, is that an aside I am especially good at.

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Mark
Expect or rating.

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Sarah
And then he do you want to hear my version.

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Mark
Well okay.

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Sarah
Do you want me to do it later? Because I wrote my own verse and.

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Mark
Does.

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Sarah
This Gaston.

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Mark
Let's do your version later because it has some clues to work. Okay?

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Sarah
I don't I don't want to spoil the spoilers. Forget I took a lot of time writing these lyrics.

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Mark
Oh, we'll get to Gaston.

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Sarah
I'm surprised he didn't die of having horrible facial hair.

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Mark
What is up with that facial hair?

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Sarah
He's got lamb chops out the wazoo like they wrap around his nose and go back the opposite direction and up around his head and just chop chop chops.

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Mark
All over the place. That tree. How did they get him out of the tree? George? Climbing trees. He climbs a lot of trees in this episode.

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Sarah
I mean, I don't I, I guess they could have tied a rope around him and lowered him down. I guess. But there's only the two of them, Murdoch and George. I don't know.

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Mark
It would have.

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Sarah
He would have been heavy.

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Mark
He would have been difficult to plow. The field was just plowed and there are no footprints.

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Sarah
Maybe they just snipped his scarf and he just fell right. Slow bouncing off branches. He's not going to feel it. He's already dead. It's fine.

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Mark
George. Get us some bicycle.

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Sarah
Daisy, do you.

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Mark
Did you see the transition?

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Sarah
There's so many cuts. Yeah. Yes. I can't believe Julia is listening to Daisy. Daisy In the mortuary? Yeah, in the morgue. I mean, classical music, maybe, but give me your answer. Do.

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Mark
Did you see her blackboard? It's all brain. She's, like, dissected people's brains, put in where they should be. Brains bright right.

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Sarah
Now. Because in her inner free time again, Julia gets to make an awesome morgue joke. They're talking about the hangman's calculation. She says.

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Mark
She kills it.

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Sarah
Too long and the head just comes off. And Murdock's like, Okay, I don't want to be alone with you. It's that scary.

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Mark
And then somewhere in the background, while they're filming this, there's a writer going, Wait a minute, that makes an idea for another episode.

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Sarah
Can we pop somebody's head off? And in a later season, maybe. I don't know.

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Mark
I Jersey Bill gives us also what I believe is our first First Nations person in a murder of.

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Sarah
A man in a bowler hat walking off a train. Yeah.

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Mark
Who's clearly actually a first person First Nations person.

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Sarah
Yeah. Who silently walks off a train wearing a hat.

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Mark
He does appear near the workshop. Also, but then goes in a door.

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Sarah
Okay, so they are taking a train between Toronto and Jersey. Well, that must run fairly regularly because Murdoch says he'll be back on the 4:00.

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Mark
Well, I think that's also another joke because we're Jersey Bill. If it's supposed to be in the Rouge River Valley the way the Rouge River is, is it's supposed to be like the equivalent of.

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Sarah
SCARBOROUGH Mm hmm.

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Mark
So it's like a commuter train, okay. Because there's trains that run back and forth the Scarborough all day. Right. Can't go train.

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Sarah
Now. Yeah, but would there have been an 1895? No idea. And how long would it have taken? What did they go? Ten miles an hour. So faster than.

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Mark
40 miles an hour at this point, You know, 50 miles.

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Sarah
An hour? Well, it's only 20 miles away. Yeah, it would take 30 minutes. Yeah, that's not bad.

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Mark
Still takes 30 minutes. You got to get through all the city.

00;17;20;03 - 00;17;27;12
Sarah
Then that's reasonable then. Yeah. That they're going back and forth on the train. Yes. So Henry's sister says he was a reckless.

00;17;27;15 - 00;17;31;07
Mark
Henry Sister should say I am the most useless character in this show.

00;17;31;12 - 00;17;35;09
Sarah
I'm a super snob, and I give no information.

00;17;35;10 - 00;17;50;02
Mark
Okay? When the cops come and talk to you about a person who's had a suspicious death in your family, you should be leading with, He said people were trying to get him. That's what you should be leaving.

00;17;50;09 - 00;18;05;16
Sarah
You should at least stop folding the doilies long enough to answer their questions. She doesn't seem to care. Yeah, that's French people for you. The cold weather. Oh, I think that's what we're supposed to think.

00;18;05;18 - 00;18;11;03
Mark
I should have believed them. No, you should have led with that. You would have been out the door in 5 minutes.

00;18;11;06 - 00;18;14;25
Sarah
Well, there were people trying to kill him, and there was that guy.

00;18;14;28 - 00;18;15;20
Mark
Their names.

00;18;15;20 - 00;18;25;12
Sarah
Were. And there was that guy who came and had a weird accent and asked me all the questions about him and then mentioned the shack. What? How does that even come up in conversation?

00;18;25;12 - 00;18;27;08
Mark
Did they know where the shack.

00;18;27;10 - 00;18;30;13
Sarah
Oh, there's only one shack in Jersey.

00;18;30;16 - 00;18;31;10
Mark
Okay.

00;18;31;12 - 00;18;33;00
Sarah
Obviously it's that shack.

00;18;33;01 - 00;18;37;15
Mark
It says Gas Stoves Workshop, which is not a shack. It's Gaston's.

00;18;37;15 - 00;18;45;20
Sarah
Workshop. That's a barn. Oh, yeah, but the shack where the confidence man has been saying is actually a shack.

00;18;45;20 - 00;18;46;09
Mark
Yes, that's.

00;18;46;09 - 00;18;47;22
Sarah
Right. But it's the shack.

00;18;47;22 - 00;18;51;18
Mark
A shack. Okay, then we get some great George and Murdock.

00;18;51;21 - 00;18;52;19
Sarah
All the horses.

00;18;52;19 - 00;18;55;05
Mark
The horses. Gertrude and Whitey.

00;18;55;07 - 00;18;57;28
Sarah
Gertrude named after the owner's mother. Yes.

00;18;58;01 - 00;18;59;22
Mark
And we get slapstick, George.

00;18;59;25 - 00;19;00;28
Sarah
Trying to ride a horse.

00;19;00;28 - 00;19;04;23
Mark
Trying to ride a horse? He said that he learned on his Shetland pony.

00;19;04;24 - 00;19;05;22
Sarah
Can you ride a horse?

00;19;05;25 - 00;19;09;03
Mark
I don't really like horses all that much, but I have ridden them.

00;19;09;08 - 00;19;15;00
Sarah
I've never been on a horse. A pony, a donkey, nothing ever. I think I would be terrified.

00;19;15;06 - 00;19;19;04
Mark
And then we get another piece of fantastic Murdock.

00;19;19;06 - 00;19;32;29
Sarah
That horse is named after the owner's mother. And the first thing that popped into my head was a horse named after your mother, Madonna? Yes. This is Madonna. The horse should have a pointy bra.

00;19;32;29 - 00;19;35;28
Mark
And not that my mom was poor, you.

00;19;36;01 - 00;19;40;18
Sarah
Know, but most people would hear Madonna the horse and think she's voguing or something.

00;19;40;18 - 00;19;45;13
Mark
Again, growing up, these with a mother named Madonna was an interesting situation.

00;19;45;19 - 00;19;47;13
Sarah
And then there's Whitey. He's all white.

00;19;47;16 - 00;19;48;23
Mark
He's all white.

00;19;48;25 - 00;19;52;06
Sarah
And browny and Blackie and Gray.

00;19;52;08 - 00;19;55;10
Mark
George exaggerated his prowess.

00;19;55;16 - 00;19;56;04
Sarah
Mm hmm.

00;19;56;09 - 00;19;59;15
Mark
Then we get another great George, and we're not.

00;19;59;15 - 00;20;07;03
Sarah
Thinking, Oh, when they're talking about the human cannon. Yes. Because George's first theory is that Gaston was shot into the tree from a cannon, which.

00;20;07;03 - 00;20;08;18
Mark
Is not is crazy.

00;20;08;18 - 00;20;18;03
Sarah
As. No, not as crazy in theory. It's not even duck. Crazy is theory because I think Murdoch's zip line theory later is just as crazy.

00;20;18;06 - 00;20;21;12
Mark
I think the cannon is more likely than the zip line.

00;20;21;14 - 00;20;30;05
Sarah
So while they're on the horses talking about the cannon and Murdoch gives away something that surprises no one, that he was a fighting dad even as a child.

00;20;30;08 - 00;20;32;15
Mark
Yes. He talks about the great Farina.

00;20;32;17 - 00;20;39;05
Sarah
There's a pair of people. I have a screenshot of it off to the side who are in modern clothes.

00;20;39;05 - 00;20;40;09
Mark
Oh, they're in modern clothes.

00;20;40;09 - 00;20;48;21
Sarah
They're carrying plastic bags. And I think one of them's wearing a bike helmet. Oh, yeah. They're just randomly standing there. It must be so hard.

00;20;48;23 - 00;20;49;21
Mark
So hard.

00;20;49;23 - 00;20;52;08
Sarah
So hard to control for that kind of thing.

00;20;52;08 - 00;20;55;01
Mark
So great for Renee. Real dude, is he?

00;20;55;08 - 00;20;58;14
Sarah
He's the one with the cannon that George says he saw. Yeah. Okay.

00;20;58;17 - 00;21;08;04
Mark
Absolutely. 19th and 20th century Canadian phenomenon. Fun. An ambulance. Do you know what that is for?

00;21;08;04 - 00;21;10;00
Sarah
Nampula? Yes. No, I don't know.

00;21;10;03 - 00;21;17;00
Mark
It is someone who walks on a tightrope. Oh, he did? Niagara Falls. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Serious guy.

00;21;17;06 - 00;21;18;18
Sarah
And got shot out of a cannon.

00;21;18;19 - 00;21;39;20
Mark
Yeah. He went over Niagara Falls and then took part, actually, as a kind of a spy in the American Civil War. He's totally like a Terence Meyers kind of guy. At some point then when he was older, he walked across the Kalahari Desert by himself, expected to be the first white person to do it.

00;21;39;20 - 00;21;40;10
Sarah
Why?

00;21;40;11 - 00;21;41;23
Mark
Because he did crazy things.

00;21;41;25 - 00;21;42;25
Sarah
I guess.

00;21;42;25 - 00;21;45;18
Mark
He was. He was definitely an interesting cat.

00;21;45;19 - 00;21;49;03
Sarah
Well, the cannon is a trick. Yes, we know that. They know.

00;21;49;03 - 00;21;56;16
Mark
That. But the person is still shot out of it. Yes, I know it's not a cannon, Murdock, but the person is still flung through the.

00;21;56;16 - 00;22;02;17
Sarah
Air onto a net number one. We saw that in Colorado. We saw somebody doing that. That's crazy.

00;22;02;17 - 00;22;03;06
Mark
That was super.

00;22;03;06 - 00;22;10;10
Sarah
Cool. Yeah, I don't care if it's a spring or an explosion. Either way, I don't want that to happen to me. No, I'm not up for that.

00;22;10;10 - 00;22;11;06
Mark
Still counts.

00;22;11;07 - 00;22;13;01
Sarah
Gaston's workshop is amazing.

00;22;13;02 - 00;22;19;07
Mark
Expected the such a great George Joffe.

00;22;19;10 - 00;22;35;11
Sarah
It's like Amparo when he sings, says the baby picture opera Looks like he's about to address a board meeting. Yes, I think Murdoch's probably the same as the child absence. Very serious. So Gaston's workshop is amazing. Yes, it is. A set dressers dream.

00;22;35;13 - 00;22;38;03
Mark
Gyroscope, an hourglass, a telescope.

00;22;38;05 - 00;22;42;28
Sarah
Lots of charts. Shotgun in the map?

00;22;43;05 - 00;22;43;19
Mark
Yes.

00;22;43;25 - 00;22;46;22
Sarah
On September 9th, cow or cow?

00;22;46;24 - 00;22;48;01
Mark
That map is now.

00;22;48;02 - 00;23;07;14
Sarah
September 15th cow light. And then he's got a list of the distances between the moon and the earth on different days. Yeah. Which he can't be calculating on his own. I'm sorry. You just he could not be doing that. But, I mean, I guess he can look them up. I guess at certain points. You know how far away the moon is?

00;23;07;18 - 00;23;13;02
Mark
Yeah. And there's a telegram or a letter here from the Rouge Valley Land Company.

00;23;13;02 - 00;23;15;17
Sarah
That letterhead is beautiful.

00;23;15;17 - 00;23;17;29
Mark
Oh, okay. There's so much in this letter.

00;23;18;00 - 00;23;20;25
Sarah
The letterhead takes up a third of the page.

00;23;21;00 - 00;23;23;19
Mark
First of all, it's from Rose Bank, Ontario.

00;23;23;20 - 00;23;24;02
Sarah
Okay.

00;23;24;09 - 00;23;33;03
Mark
Which is nowhere near okay, which is further away than Toronto from Toronto, then Ottawa, we said. And then Toronto.

00;23;33;03 - 00;23;36;04
Sarah
We're suspending geographical disbelief again.

00;23;36;10 - 00;23;43;14
Mark
I do not know where the offices of this voice are. It clearly says on it. Terence Myers.

00;23;43;18 - 00;23;44;04
Sarah
Mm hmm.

00;23;44;10 - 00;23;44;28
Mark
Yeah.

00;23;45;01 - 00;23;46;10
Sarah
He's using his own name.

00;23;46;10 - 00;23;57;14
Mark
July 16th, 1895 is the date on it. It's super interesting. There's a lot there. And this is where we get our first reference to P, Percival.

00;23;57;14 - 00;23;59;02
Sarah
Lowell.

00;23;59;04 - 00;24;03;23
Mark
And the Canals of Mars. So do you know Percival Lowell is.

00;24;03;26 - 00;24;06;06
Sarah
He's the guy who discovered their canals on.

00;24;06;06 - 00;24;07;21
Mark
Mars? Well, they're not actually.

00;24;07;21 - 00;24;12;24
Sarah
Canals, no, but we call them canals. They're scars more or less. Yeah.

00;24;12;26 - 00;24;17;17
Mark
He had a speculation that there were canals on Mars, which proved to be false.

00;24;17;18 - 00;24;18;00
Sarah
Right.

00;24;18;01 - 00;24;43;10
Mark
But he also theorized there was a ninth planet in the solar system, which for a while was true because he thought that there would be something in Pluto. He founded the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, Arizona, and formed the where they began to look for Pluto, which was discovered 14 years after his death. Influence on huge amounts of people.

00;24;43;10 - 00;24;54;04
Mark
Edgar Rice Burroughs, Ray Bradbury, That whole sort of set of he's really the guy who popularized Mars is an invading situation.

00;24;54;04 - 00;25;05;19
Sarah
And he was doing that in the late 1800s. Yeah. So between him and like the sci fi boom in the 1950s, yeah, he must have had a big influence for a long time. Yeah.

00;25;05;19 - 00;25;16;02
Mark
1855 to 1916. Or is dates he, he, he also, he also has an incredibly interesting mausoleum. It looks like an observatory.

00;25;16;03 - 00;25;18;07
Sarah
Oh, that's cool. Like it has a dome on top.

00;25;18;07 - 00;25;21;18
Mark
Yeah, has a dome on top. That's super cool. It's super cool.

00;25;21;21 - 00;25;29;08
Sarah
And this is our first sort of hint of things we learned later about George that he's fascinated with sci fi and space.

00;25;29;08 - 00;25;30;11
Mark
And adventure.

00;25;30;11 - 00;25;30;29
Sarah
That come that.

00;25;30;29 - 00;25;32;06
Mark
Sort of adventure.

00;25;32;09 - 00;25;45;23
Sarah
That comes into play later. So I wondered whether this was an anachronism in the timeline. So were people actually that interested in outer space and UFOs in the 1890? Yes. Or is this.

00;25;45;23 - 00;25;46;28
Mark
That's a valid is this.

00;25;46;28 - 00;25;56;29
Sarah
The writer sort of transposing later interests earlier for Murdoch's purposes? Yes. And so I looked into UFO sightings in Canada in the 1890s.

00;25;56;29 - 00;25;57;14
Mark
Okay.

00;25;57;20 - 00;26;13;29
Sarah
There was this big thing in the Midwest, in the United States in the 1890s that extended up into Canada in some places called the Great Airship Mystery. Oh, okay. And they are absolutely making a reference to this.

00;26;13;29 - 00;26;15;00
Mark
Okay, cool.

00;26;15;02 - 00;26;45;16
Sarah
For like six months, this huge swath of North America, people were seeing this weird UFO in in the sky at night that had lights, that changed colors, and it was like triangular. And then it was square and people were seeing it and reporting it all over the place. Of course, communication was really bad. So it wasn't until much later that people kind of strung these together and realized in all these disparate places people were seeing a similar thing.

00;26;45;16 - 00;27;11;11
Sarah
But the weirdest part of it is that there was some kind of radio signal coming from this airship, okay? And it's not a blimp. We think of airships as blimps. Yeah, that's that's it wasn't blimp looking. No, I described it. But somehow or another, people figured out that it was sending signals and some. And I'm having trouble finding the details on this.

00;27;11;13 - 00;27;29;03
Sarah
So just fill in the blanks for yourself. Somehow or another, people figured out it was sending a message that was to Edison. Oh, but then Edison said, I got nothing to do with that. I don't know what you're talking about. Okay, so either Edison had a blimp, an airship of some sort.

00;27;29;03 - 00;27;29;26
Mark
Yeah.

00;27;29;28 - 00;27;38;06
Sarah
And pretended not to. Or aliens were trying to talk to Edison or somebody mistranslated, whatever this message was.

00;27;38;06 - 00;27;40;16
Mark
So we still don't know what it was, actually.

00;27;40;17 - 00;27;53;01
Sarah
Oh, there's like, ten books written about it. Oh, well, I couldn't find any of them open source or anything to skim through that. And there's no like nice concise summary of it. It tells you how it ended.

00;27;53;01 - 00;28;01;20
Mark
Well, it's not it's not crazy to think that the governments of the time were exploring lighter than aircraft.

00;28;01;20 - 00;28;10;16
Sarah
This thing would have had to travel like from Kentucky to north of Toronto. Wow. For everybody to have seen it, who saw it?

00;28;10;20 - 00;28;13;25
Mark
Well, it could have been multiple flights or something, maybe.

00;28;13;26 - 00;28;17;03
Sarah
Yeah, maybe. But they've got to be referencing that.

00;28;17;03 - 00;28;17;23
Mark
Well, now, in.

00;28;17;23 - 00;28;17;29
Sarah
This.

00;28;17;29 - 00;28;20;11
Mark
Episode in the in the Civil Wars.

00;28;20;11 - 00;28;23;25
Sarah
Right. So but that's that's not what people saw.

00;28;23;26 - 00;28;24;22
Mark
No, I know it.

00;28;24;22 - 00;28;30;20
Sarah
Wasn't a balloon. I know the great Airship mystery, if you're curious, 18, 19, it's.

00;28;30;20 - 00;28;32;00
Mark
Clear that being referenced.

00;28;32;00 - 00;28;35;08
Sarah
Yeah. Yeah. So then we get to go to the Rouge Valley Land Company and.

00;28;35;08 - 00;28;35;24
Mark
We meet.

00;28;36;01 - 00;28;50;17
Sarah
To see Terence Myers in his own environment, looking fancy in his offices. Yes. Denying everything. If a plane goes poorly, we just scrap it and start something new. He wouldn't sell gas on. Wouldn't sell.

00;28;50;17 - 00;28;54;15
Mark
So why is he there? Why are they doing this?

00;28;54;20 - 00;28;56;20
Sarah
I don't know. So, again.

00;28;56;22 - 00;28;59;24
Mark
This is supposedly the cover for what they're doing.

00;28;59;24 - 00;29;22;10
Sarah
Yes. So we spoil stuff, right? So we're supposed to believe that the Canadian government pretends to be buying up all of the property in a valley to provide cover for a blend they're building? Yes. So they have an open area to fly their blimp around. Yes. Okay. That seems over the top. There's a lot of open area in Canada.

00;29;22;12 - 00;29;28;26
Mark
Spending $600 for 200 acres of land is insane at this point in time.

00;29;29;03 - 00;29;34;06
Sarah
Aren't there plenty of open spaces in Canada where they could have flown this thing and nobody would have seen it?

00;29;34;06 - 00;29;36;05
Mark
Plenty of. Okay.

00;29;36;07 - 00;29;42;18
Sarah
Again, I mean, to this day, I think you could do it and nobody would notice it. Maybe on radar somewhere.

00;29;42;18 - 00;29;43;25
Mark
Maybe, maybe.

00;29;43;26 - 00;29;51;05
Sarah
But it was a low flying, you know, airship, so it wouldn't even like, interfere with planes. It was like right above trees and stuff.

00;29;51;05 - 00;29;53;03
Mark
And makes no sense. It makes.

00;29;53;05 - 00;30;03;17
Sarah
No sense. But of course, we get to see Myers and his expert denial of everything because, you know, he is government. Yes. So Gaston's journal has all kinds of clippings.

00;30;03;17 - 00;30;09;01
Mark
George is on the case screen for strange footprints in areas, the first.

00;30;09;01 - 00;30;10;08
Sarah
In Perth County.

00;30;10;08 - 00;30;14;23
Mark
Okay, we'll get to Perth. Gary, there are two more before go.

00;30;14;25 - 00;30;15;21
Sarah
Okay.

00;30;15;23 - 00;30;39;25
Mark
So strange footprints in area. Police asked for help in demanding determining identity of creature individuals question whether the prints are of earth origin that is purposely put in for later on. Right. Okay. Mysterious field circles puzzled scientists no known origin, possible alien lifeforms. International experts discredit invader theory later on.

00;30;39;25 - 00;30;41;03
Sarah
Yes.

00;30;41;05 - 00;30;50;27
Mark
Strange happenings in Perth County. Perth County is easily 300 miles in the wrong direction. I don't know why.

00;30;51;01 - 00;30;57;04
Sarah
Well, I guess I might have been collecting any kind of clippings from anywhere in Canada, eastern Canada.

00;30;57;05 - 00;31;02;20
Mark
Maybe. You know, strange black shapes move straight up rapidly.

00;31;02;22 - 00;31;03;08
Sarah
Okay.

00;31;03;08 - 00;31;05;12
Mark
That's what's in the in the article.

00;31;05;13 - 00;31;13;10
Sarah
Black shapes. Why is in his journal in French? I don't know. I mean, unless his sister's French, but he's not.

00;31;13;13 - 00;31;15;25
Mark
She's just annoying.

00;31;15;27 - 00;31;18;18
Sarah
I would think that his would be in French, too.

00;31;18;19 - 00;31;23;07
Mark
Now, let me tell you the difference between a motto and an aphorism.

00;31;23;09 - 00;31;31;17
Sarah
Poor black and read. Yeah, just I will spoil this. The Chief Constable is a bad guy. Okay. If you can't tell he's a jerk face.

00;31;31;19 - 00;31;36;01
Mark
Never mind the fact that he's not, is he? Teleport to the office where every.

00;31;36;01 - 00;31;40;06
Sarah
Day is and he is just as bad as you think he is.

00;31;40;06 - 00;31;41;15
Mark
Yeah, he's bad.

00;31;41;18 - 00;32;04;25
Sarah
So he's. He's not doing a difficult job here, keeping things secret, you know, and having to do things for the government. He's just a bad guy. But, you know, Bracken Reid is getting the pressure. Yeah, but he tells Murdoch, follow the money. Yeah, right. Because if Gaston wants out, then that means the plan doesn't happen. And there are other people who might have been excited to sell and now won't get any money.

00;32;04;25 - 00;32;08;19
Sarah
And it turns out to be the McIsaac and the McIsaac.

00;32;08;22 - 00;32;12;04
Mark
McIsaac, Jake and Kerr. But that's not their real names.

00;32;12;04 - 00;32;14;14
Sarah
But no, because they're not even real.

00;32;14;17 - 00;32;17;26
Mark
Know which I give a clear shot for not being.

00;32;17;26 - 00;32;23;19
Sarah
Real. Okay, so they're plant, right? They're American military. Yep.

00;32;23;21 - 00;32;28;12
Mark
No one's Royal Navy. There's one English. One. Okay, American.

00;32;28;19 - 00;32;33;27
Sarah
So wait a minute. When he talks to them in the blacksmith shop, does one of them have an American? No, no.

00;32;34;00 - 00;32;35;10
Mark
They both have Canadian act.

00;32;35;17 - 00;32;37;01
Sarah
They're both doing Scottish accent.

00;32;37;01 - 00;32;39;00
Mark
Why are they all connected?

00;32;39;02 - 00;32;50;28
Sarah
Know So the government is so invested in taking over the Rouge Valley that they have planted two men to pretend to be blacksmiths?

00;32;51;00 - 00;32;51;16
Mark
Yep.

00;32;51;18 - 00;32;52;21
Sarah
For what reason?

00;32;52;29 - 00;32;54;05
Mark
I do not know.

00;32;54;06 - 00;33;00;03
Sarah
Okay. And they obviously have blacksmith skills because they're actually running a blacksmith.

00;33;00;03 - 00;33;07;19
Mark
Maybe they're helping in the creation of things that are needed for the airship. That's the only thing I can think.

00;33;07;19 - 00;33;14;11
Sarah
Okay. And nobody notices them using their smithy to make airship parts.

00;33;14;11 - 00;33;16;01
Mark
Or alien feet.

00;33;16;04 - 00;33;19;27
Sarah
When they should be making like boop. Jackson Pot hooks.

00;33;20;00 - 00;33;20;23
Mark
The truth.

00;33;20;28 - 00;33;22;17
Sarah
For these pioneer people.

00;33;22;18 - 00;33;29;29
Mark
This episode is missing them with the alien feet on Jupiter.

00;33;30;02 - 00;33;46;29
Sarah
So I want to see about the metal golf ball feeds. Yeah, they have this hammer that is like a stamp of dragon's scales. Yeah. Or like, lizard scales. And I for the life of me, I was like, I don't know why a blacksmith would have that. Why would they have it?

00;33;46;29 - 00;33;47;26
Mark
I don't know.

00;33;47;29 - 00;33;57;23
Sarah
And I looked around online and I did find places selling that exact piece of equipment, but I could find no place where anybody's putting it to use.

00;33;57;25 - 00;33;59;10
Mark
It's just design, isn't it?

00;33;59;18 - 00;34;04;02
Sarah
But what does the blacksmith make that needs the texture of scales?

00;34;04;02 - 00;34;07;08
Mark
Don't know. I don't alien.

00;34;07;11 - 00;34;29;21
Sarah
That you'd hammer on because you have to heat the metal, put that thing on it and basically whack it to stamp it. And then move it and do it again. It would never be continuous scales. It would always look like a rectangle of scales. And plenty of people make metal dragon scales for things, you know, or like chain mail, you kind of things, but not things that just have the texture of lizard skin.

00;34;29;23 - 00;34;30;12
Mark
It's weird.

00;34;30;13 - 00;34;40;09
Sarah
I don't get I don't get why they have very strange, I guess, You know, maybe these two invented it. Maybe. And now, you know, it's standard kit. I don't know.

00;34;40;11 - 00;34;48;15
Mark
So here we get discussion of the creepiest part of the episode, which is someone is in the corner watching me. That's honestly creepy.

00;34;48;20 - 00;34;50;06
Sarah
Well, children of the corn.

00;34;50;06 - 00;34;54;01
Mark
Yeah, Yeah. They find the Martian prints. And then there is mention.

00;34;54;01 - 00;34;59;09
Sarah
Oh, wait, I just figured out why them the guys are there. Why they're there to freak Henry out.

00;34;59;14 - 00;35;03;01
Mark
Oh, okay. How did they know? Oh, yeah, they're.

00;35;03;03 - 00;35;11;10
Sarah
They're just. They're freak guest on out. Yeah, that's. And make part for the airship, I guess. I guess.

00;35;11;10 - 00;35;13;00
Mark
It'd be heavies at the end of the.

00;35;13;00 - 00;35;22;05
Sarah
Episode. Yeah. Okay. So they're purposely creeping him out by walking around in fields, you know, strange light footprint.

00;35;22;09 - 00;35;23;17
Mark
Be video of them with The.

00;35;23;17 - 00;35;33;08
Sarah
Martian. There should be. Yeah. There should be a scene of them lurking around with a lantern in the cornfield wearing the shoes, you know? Yeah, exactly.

00;35;33;11 - 00;35;36;00
Mark
Occam's Razor. Do you know Arkham is.

00;35;36;08 - 00;35;36;19
Sarah
No.

00;35;36;24 - 00;35;50;24
Mark
Arkham is not a person. What often is not a person? Occam's Razor is the idea that the simplest answer is the correct one. It's a philosophical idea put forth by William of Arkham. Arkham is a place.

00;35;50;24 - 00;35;51;17
Sarah
Oh, okay.

00;35;51;22 - 00;35;52;25
Mark
Do you know where it is?

00;35;52;25 - 00;36;01;09
Sarah
It's like Da Vinci. Yes. He's Leonardo Da Vinci. Yes. Okay. Yeah. I don't know where Alchemist. It's in.

00;36;01;09 - 00;36;03;12
Mark
England. Oh, he's an English guy.

00;36;03;17 - 00;36;04;07
Sarah
It makes sense.

00;36;04;10 - 00;36;07;10
Mark
William of Auckland. William.

00;36;07;13 - 00;36;09;20
Sarah
He's not from Auckland? Yes, he's from Arkham.

00;36;09;26 - 00;36;23;05
Mark
William of Arkham was born in 1287 and died in 1347. Really? Old dude do absolutely, You know, wrote a whole bunch of philosophy books and.

00;36;23;11 - 00;36;29;27
Sarah
It wouldn't be the same as they call it Willy's Razor. Yes, they have to call it Ha comes Razor.

00;36;30;00 - 00;36;34;12
Mark
And of course, because he's before reformation, he's a Catholic priest.

00;36;34;15 - 00;36;36;04
Sarah
Then we get to see crop circles.

00;36;36;10 - 00;36;40;26
Mark
Yes, two real ones and two and three CGI ones.

00;36;41;03 - 00;36;42;23
Sarah
There's a lot of CGI in this.

00;36;42;23 - 00;36;43;10
Mark
Yes.

00;36;43;17 - 00;36;49;08
Sarah
So which makes sense because they're they're not easy to make and they ruin crops.

00;36;49;12 - 00;36;52;01
Mark
They do. And there's no naked guy for Midsomer.

00;36;52;02 - 00;36;56;04
Sarah
No. When when do you think crop circles started?

00;36;56;07 - 00;37;11;25
Mark
Well, always in these shows, when they find a crop circle, there's a montage of these crop circles have been found in crops since the time of primitive peoples. I'm going to say crop circles are probably a 20th century thing.

00;37;11;28 - 00;37;24;00
Sarah
They aren't. And you should know this, okay? Because in the mid-summer that you're referring to where the naked man gets found in a crop circle. Yes, we talked about the mowing Devil. All right, Remember.

00;37;24;00 - 00;37;24;17
Mark
Devil, the.

00;37;24;17 - 00;37;25;08
Sarah
Pamphlet?

00;37;25;08 - 00;37;26;08
Mark
There was a picture.

00;37;26;09 - 00;37;29;09
Sarah
Yes, of the mowing Devil. It's from 1600.

00;37;29;09 - 00;37;30;13
Mark
That's right.

00;37;30;15 - 00;37;51;12
Sarah
Now mowing the mowing Devil mowed circles. He didn't bend. Yeah. And the people who study crop circles and other things to do with with plants like wheat and corn are called cereal ologist. Cereal because they study cereals. Yes. Okay. Cereal plants. Okay. So the mowing devil might have been in Syria. What, just.

00;37;51;15 - 00;37;57;06
Mark
A localized wind shear? Yeah, that's not possible.

00;37;57;06 - 00;37;59;15
Sarah
Swamp gas, Murdock. Swamp gas.

00;37;59;15 - 00;38;00;12
Mark
I love how.

00;38;00;16 - 00;38;04;16
Sarah
He's talking about a tornado. It's talking about wind shear. Yeah, a small tornado.

00;38;04;17 - 00;38;08;16
Mark
George does a good job here going. I climbed a tree and looked at them.

00;38;08;17 - 00;38;16;13
Sarah
Yeah, maybe that's what Gaston was trying to do. And then they. But there was no crops in it. Maybe. Maybe not.

00;38;16;16 - 00;38;20;10
Mark
The footprints are a curiosity. I can't explain them.

00;38;20;10 - 00;38;29;01
Sarah
In Gaston's workshop on his map, he has a note about footprints, and he has a little drawing of them. Yeah, they have way too many toes there.

00;38;29;03 - 00;38;31;16
Mark
It is unclear how many toes these footprints.

00;38;31;19 - 00;38;39;04
Sarah
Well, it looks like five in his drawing, but it's clearly three. Yeah, from the actual footprint. But George makes a nice plaster cast.

00;38;39;09 - 00;38;40;08
Mark
He does?

00;38;40;10 - 00;38;42;01
Sarah
It's clearly golf balls.

00;38;42;02 - 00;38;49;07
Mark
Clearly the arts and crafts section, because Murdoch is also getting arts and crafts.

00;38;49;13 - 00;38;49;25
Sarah
Yeah.

00;38;50;00 - 00;38;55;04
Mark
In a montage, by the way, this is the beginning of the montages. Of montages and montage.

00;38;55;04 - 00;39;11;11
Sarah
Yeah. Because the first half of this episode kind of crawls and then they're like, Okay, speed it up. Come on, let's go. And we got to have lots of montages. Yes. The next arts and crafts moment is Murdoch's zipline diorama. Bracken Reed looks at it goes, What the hell is this?

00;39;11;13 - 00;39;13;24
Mark
It must be good to merge it. Operations?

00;39;13;24 - 00;39;16;27
Sarah
Yes. Is a fantastic.

00;39;16;27 - 00;39;19;16
Mark
Joke by Bragg and Reed.

00;39;19;18 - 00;39;22;10
Sarah
You want to guess when zip lines were first used?

00;39;22;17 - 00;39;23;06
Mark
Zip line.

00;39;23;06 - 00;39;26;12
Sarah
And I'm going to specify for purposes of entertainment.

00;39;26;16 - 00;39;27;09
Mark
Okay.

00;39;27;11 - 00;39;33;13
Sarah
Because people in lots of different geographies have been using ropes to carry things over distances.

00;39;33;13 - 00;39;43;18
Mark
So. Okay. So by zip line, you mean there's an apparatus that people ride down a rope over a chasm using gravity?

00;39;43;23 - 00;39;47;23
Sarah
Yes. As the as the power method behind.

00;39;47;24 - 00;39;50;29
Mark
Just a rope or a rag thrown over top of it.

00;39;51;02 - 00;40;08;07
Sarah
Or it could be something else. But it's not a there's not like a carriage or a car or something also known as a flying fox or a death slide. If you said, Hey, let's go depth sliding, I would say, No, no. If you said zip, let's go zip lining, I'd probably say no to. But you want to guess?

00;40;08;10 - 00;40;08;22
Mark
No.

00;40;08;24 - 00;40;34;15
Sarah
1739 Wow. When a guy named Robert Cadman, who was a Steeple Jack and a rope slider, so he did this for a living, but he decided to do it for fun once he descended from the Shrewsbury St Mary's Church in England on a like a dare, basically. So he he hooked a rope up from this. It's a cathedral basically down to the ground, and he was going to slide notice I said he was, he.

00;40;34;15 - 00;40;35;01
Mark
Was.

00;40;35;01 - 00;40;36;11
Sarah
Going to slide down the.

00;40;36;12 - 00;40;36;28
Mark
Stairs.

00;40;37;01 - 00;40;43;11
Sarah
For fun and the rope snapped and he died. But that's the first zip lining for entertainment.

00;40;43;13 - 00;40;45;14
Mark
I would not be entertained.

00;40;45;16 - 00;40;59;23
Sarah
I don't think even people watching were entertained. It was probably a pretty messy affair. Yeah. Poor Robert Cadman. He was trying to invent something fun. It's also mentioned in The Invisible Man. Oh, there's zip lining in the Invisible Man. I didn't know that.

00;40;59;23 - 00;41;00;21
Mark
I didn't know which is.

00;41;00;21 - 00;41;02;01
Sarah
1897.

00;41;02;03 - 00;41;03;05
Mark
Oversight.

00;41;03;09 - 00;41;03;23
Sarah
No.

00;41;03;24 - 00;41;04;13
Mark
See, now.

00;41;04;13 - 00;41;19;26
Sarah
This is an up oversight. This is dramatic jelly pointing. There's a blob of jelly bean, a piece of fake fur, and there's a finger, and it just jus and look, look, look. I'm pointing. I'm pointing. We cut.

00;41;19;26 - 00;41;21;23
Mark
A deal with the feet.

00;41;21;25 - 00;41;27;14
Sarah
And other feet that are up in the air. We never actually see a cow at all.

00;41;27;15 - 00;41;30;15
Mark
Okay? But we see feet our way too close together.

00;41;30;15 - 00;41;43;09
Sarah
We see hooks. Yep. Stuck up in the air because, you know, when calves when cows die, they just like a bug. Stick their legs up in the air. That's not how it works. And then we get jelly pointing.

00;41;43;09 - 00;41;43;20
Mark
Yeah.

00;41;43;25 - 00;41;53;20
Sarah
Look, Die, die Blob jelly jelly, blob, blob jelly. Oh, it's bloat. Sometimes they explode.

00;41;53;20 - 00;41;58;27
Mark
Which having experience with bloat, it is horrific.

00;41;58;29 - 00;42;02;14
Sarah
Yeah. And you do some cosmic event. A cow.

00;42;02;19 - 00;42;05;24
Mark
I I've been there when a cow has been vented.

00;42;05;24 - 00;42;07;06
Sarah
They stick a big tube in it.

00;42;07;07 - 00;42;10;26
Mark
It is not a pleasant smell. I assure.

00;42;11;04 - 00;42;13;05
Sarah
Oh, but the cow must feel so much better.

00;42;13;06 - 00;42;16;23
Mark
That the cow shrinks before your eyes. Yeah, it's.

00;42;16;25 - 00;42;19;03
Sarah
Stunning. And is there a big fart sound?

00;42;19;05 - 00;42;20;21
Mark
No.

00;42;20;23 - 00;42;25;13
Sarah
Right. Because the fart sound is like from the flapping, right? Yeah. It's a tube. It doesn't know.

00;42;25;15 - 00;42;26;17
Mark
No, because they don't.

00;42;26;21 - 00;42;39;00
Sarah
They don't put a rubber and the flap around. Well that's how you know that it's done when it solves or like a like a kazoo, you know, like a party. I've heard a whistle or something.

00;42;39;00 - 00;42;45;01
Mark
I've heard, I've haven't seen this, but I've heard people who have lit it on fire when it's coming out.

00;42;45;02 - 00;42;45;19
Sarah
Why?

00;42;45;22 - 00;42;47;13
Mark
Because it's like a fart.

00;42;47;15 - 00;42;50;04
Sarah
Just to burn it off just so bad because.

00;42;50;07 - 00;42;51;16
Mark
Boy, it stinks.

00;42;51;16 - 00;42;56;24
Sarah
But what if you get a backlash just to cow everywhere? Poor cow.

00;42;56;26 - 00;43;05;18
Mark
I have no idea about cows exploding, but like it is not when you see a bloated cow compared to a normal cow, you're like, There's.

00;43;05;18 - 00;43;06;03
Sarah
Something wrong with.

00;43;06;04 - 00;43;07;03
Mark
That cows. But it's.

00;43;07;03 - 00;43;09;14
Sarah
Really.

00;43;09;16 - 00;43;09;22
Mark
Like.

00;43;09;22 - 00;43;10;26
Sarah
You don't poke that.

00;43;10;28 - 00;43;13;20
Mark
It is absolutely easy to see that farmer.

00;43;13;20 - 00;43;15;14
Sarah
Get away from that cow with your stick.

00;43;15;14 - 00;43;22;11
Mark
But still, Murdock is just carrying out all the excuse is like, should say, swamp gas, that.

00;43;22;14 - 00;43;33;05
Sarah
He's Hyneman and all over this thing. Yeah, it's just swamp gas. It was a reflection off of the moon. It was a meteor. It was a crashing satellite. Those don't exist yet.

00;43;33;07 - 00;43;35;25
Mark
You like? No, this is where.

00;43;35;25 - 00;43;40;12
Sarah
No, it's a blob of jelly. You can see it right here. I'm pointing to it. That's my.

00;43;40;12 - 00;43;43;13
Mark
Favorite jelly.

00;43;43;16 - 00;43;56;20
Sarah
So we're supposed to believe that in order to throw the police off, Meyers has killed a cow in some way that they can't tell. Yeah. Laid it on its back and hooked his shop back up to suck its guts out.

00;43;56;28 - 00;44;01;02
Mark
A sharp fact that they have no exploitation.

00;44;01;05 - 00;44;03;07
Sarah
Oh, no. They use it to deflate the balloon.

00;44;03;07 - 00;44;07;08
Mark
Okay, that's what they use it for. But there's no explanation of how that works.

00;44;07;08 - 00;44;08;21
Sarah
No, no, no.

00;44;08;21 - 00;44;10;25
Mark
Why put those in the air.

00;44;10;25 - 00;44;12;22
Sarah
And it's hooked up to a bike and you have to.

00;44;12;22 - 00;44;13;26
Mark
Pedal, I guess.

00;44;13;27 - 00;44;26;12
Sarah
Suck the air out. Well, you can't just plug it in. There's no electricity in Jersey. Now, come on. It's 1850 and Jersey, Well, she. She comes by train just to see the jolly blob cow.

00;44;26;13 - 00;44;27;20
Mark
Yeah.

00;44;27;22 - 00;44;29;11
Sarah
Like George Culbertson.

00;44;29;11 - 00;44;30;19
Mark
To her telegrams.

00;44;30;20 - 00;44;33;24
Sarah
Retorts in telegram or calls her and says.

00;44;33;25 - 00;44;38;14
Mark
She's in the morgue was a daisy days. And he gets the telegram. Come out to see this.

00;44;38;14 - 00;44;43;08
Sarah
Cow It's got it's got sucked out. And she's like, I'm there.

00;44;43;08 - 00;44;43;25
Mark
I'm on.

00;44;43;25 - 00;44;49;07
Sarah
It. Well, Murdoch, is that. Yeah. How's she going to make googly eyes at Murdoch? If she doesn't go to Jersey.

00;44;49;07 - 00;44;50;26
Mark
They'll get to the Gould.

00;44;50;28 - 00;45;02;26
Sarah
To see the jelly blob cow. Well, they might be smarter than us, but I have a feeling they're a great deal uglier, George says about Martians. Because if this is what their feet look like, what is the rest of them look like?

00;45;02;28 - 00;45;22;20
Mark
George is so fantastic. This is a trope of George that they play with through all the seasons, which is George has a crazy idea, some of which are like that are true. Like there's a point where he goes, I wonder if they should have a giant tower in downtown. Yeah, in Toronto. Downtown Toronto.

00;45;22;20 - 00;45;35;07
Sarah
So but he is he is one of those kids who grew up reading fantasy sci fi kind of stuff. And absolutely, he's all into it. Those ugly Martians with their golf ball toes.

00;45;35;07 - 00;45;37;27
Mark
Then the train gets stuck. Oh.

00;45;38;00 - 00;45;41;16
Sarah
It's okay. I guess so. Have to stay in Jersey.

00;45;41;16 - 00;45;46;12
Mark
So Dad did it, and then the jury got stuck and then the aliens came. And then, like.

00;45;46;15 - 00;45;48;04
Sarah
Then there's another murder like that.

00;45;48;05 - 00;45;50;11
Mark
Yeah. So there's another murder. And.

00;45;50;11 - 00;45;55;28
Sarah
And Julia is wearing Miss Pencil's hat. Yes, She's wearing the escaping bowler.

00;45;55;29 - 00;45;57;01
Mark
She's wearing these.

00;45;57;05 - 00;45;59;02
Sarah
Different. She's got it.

00;45;59;02 - 00;46;15;13
Mark
I, I and there's a shot. I have a picture of it of Murdoch examining the body and Bracken Reed behind him and which is like the director storyboarded it out and, like, has reference pictures.

00;46;15;13 - 00;46;21;21
Sarah
From under a bridge. If he's looking there, we have the escaping hat back and looking, judging in the background.

00;46;21;23 - 00;46;30;02
Mark
That picture, that shot, He's like, he lingers on it. I'm like, Yeah, that's a favorite shot of yours right there.

00;46;30;02 - 00;46;32;17
Sarah
Bracken Reed's looking real trim in this episode.

00;46;32;19 - 00;46;33;14
Mark
He is.

00;46;33;19 - 00;46;45;04
Sarah
He looks great. Yeah. And when they have to stay overnight and he's out smoking a cigar, he's got his his necktie off and his jacket all loose, and it's looking pretty handsome. I thought.

00;46;45;05 - 00;46;49;15
Mark
Yeah, this is where the shack gets mentioned. They find the disguise kit.

00;46;49;17 - 00;47;09;27
Sarah
How does that come up in conversation? I'm looking for your brother. Well, I'm not going to tell you where he is because I don't trust you. And I think you're creepy. I'm staying in a shack by now. Like I said, I'm looking for your brother. Like I was looking for a shack. I found a shack. I need to find your brother.

00;47;09;27 - 00;47;12;09
Mark
I'm looking for your brother.

00;47;12;11 - 00;47;13;16
Sarah
And I have a shack.

00;47;13;18 - 00;47;16;00
Mark
I have to have the faintest Parisian accent.

00;47;16;00 - 00;47;18;01
Sarah
Yes. Would he like to visit me at my shack?

00;47;18;01 - 00;47;29;18
Mark
Yet another montage o k here. The shack. We find that it's Claude. Bonsoir. The confidence, man. I realize who Why? They all recognize him Because he's.

00;47;29;21 - 00;47;31;00
Sarah
Got a boxer mustache.

00;47;31;07 - 00;47;33;10
Mark
Check of confidence, man.

00;47;33;13 - 00;47;43;09
Sarah
But because they're stuck in Jersey, though, Julia has to perform the autopsy on Ben. Why in Jersey ville? So where does she do it? In Gaston's workshop.

00;47;43;09 - 00;47;45;08
Mark
Yeah. I don't know why she does it there.

00;47;45;09 - 00;48;02;20
Sarah
I guess because it's blacked out. The windows are covered, so she's got privacy, I guess. But has to go to the general store and buy all of the supplies. Yeah. Now she's a doctor, so I'm sure she carries quite a few pieces of equipment in her bag. So everything on her tray I'm going to give her. Yeah, right.

00;48;02;21 - 00;48;16;16
Sarah
She had that stuff with her, but she goes in there, she's like, I need a tarp, I need a saw, I need alcohol, I need a bucket. I'm going to use the bucket for guts. I need quick lime. I need. Yeah.

00;48;16;18 - 00;48;18;09
Mark
Meanwhile, the person draws.

00;48;18;09 - 00;48;19;20
Sarah
A sturdy needle.

00;48;19;21 - 00;48;25;09
Mark
You're a woman who's not married. Who? I don't know. And you have money. You're must be a prostitute.

00;48;25;09 - 00;48;26;03
Sarah
Or a witch.

00;48;26;05 - 00;48;26;29
Mark
Or a witch.

00;48;26;29 - 00;48;35;28
Sarah
Well, she's clearly going to kill somebody. I need a gut bucket and a tarp and some bleach and, like, suspicious.

00;48;36;00 - 00;48;42;19
Mark
Meanwhile, Murdock is, like, so out of excuses. He's like, Well, there's no Martians in the Bible.

00;48;42;22 - 00;48;48;09
Sarah
Yeah, What? And that's why they're. They don't exist.

00;48;48;15 - 00;48;54;06
Mark
Like, I'm, like, calling foul a Murdock. Because he would have thought better than this.

00;48;54;11 - 00;48;57;13
Sarah
Well, the victim's viscera have been evacuated.

00;48;57;17 - 00;49;06;11
Mark
In the middle of this incredibly fast Second part. Let's wander around in the night, in the dark. Well, I don't get to smoke at home.

00;49;06;11 - 00;49;07;16
Sarah
It's romantic.

00;49;07;17 - 00;49;10;14
Mark
I don't get to smoke at home or let my hair down.

00;49;10;21 - 00;49;18;08
Sarah
So we're supposed to think Julia was just out walking around in her shawl with her hair down, which she would not have put down if she'd known she was going to run into murder.

00;49;18;09 - 00;49;19;08
Mark
No.

00;49;19;10 - 00;49;21;18
Sarah
I'm just glad the gazebo has lighting in it.

00;49;21;18 - 00;49;23;05
Mark
Montage. Montage, montage.

00;49;23;05 - 00;49;25;18
Sarah
The Jersey Ville gazebo is very well lit.

00;49;25;23 - 00;49;27;22
Mark
Plus there's a rumble in the distance.

00;49;27;22 - 00;49;29;08
Sarah
The gazebo is fun to say.

00;49;29;08 - 00;49;31;14
Mark
Well, there's a UFO.

00;49;31;16 - 00;49;39;07
Sarah
Before that in the discussion of religion and Martians. Yes, George says something about Martian Jesus.

00;49;39;14 - 00;49;40;02
Mark
Yes.

00;49;40;05 - 00;49;44;25
Sarah
And I'm just going to give a little public service announcement here. Yes. Don't Google that.

00;49;44;26 - 00;49;48;23
Mark
Oh, you Google Martian genius.

00;49;48;23 - 00;49;50;24
Sarah
Jesus, Jesus. Yes.

00;49;50;26 - 00;49;51;18
Mark
Okay.

00;49;51;20 - 00;50;08;06
Sarah
Oh, it's a Q and on black hole of awfulness. Oh, that's all I'm going to say. I'm glad I did it in incognito mode. Oh, I thought, oh, I'll find goofy people who think Jesus was from Mars. That'll be fine. Yeah, it's not fun. No, don't go there.

00;50;08;07 - 00;50;08;16
Mark
Okay.

00;50;08;20 - 00;50;21;03
Sarah
And this is not one of those. Whatever you do, don't press that button because it's fun things. No, no, I'm giving you advice. Yeah, And then. Yes, you can't deny it because look up in the sky. It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a UFO.

00;50;21;03 - 00;50;22;13
Mark
It's their X-Files.

00;50;22;13 - 00;50;23;29
Sarah
Moment. Follow that UFO.

00;50;23;29 - 00;50;25;20
Mark
Yeah, absolutely.

00;50;25;23 - 00;50;28;12
Sarah
They go to the map to figure out where it went instead of just.

00;50;28;16 - 00;50;29;06
Mark
Following.

00;50;29;06 - 00;50;42;12
Sarah
It. Following it? Yeah. The map already has a bunch of red dots right where it is, so they don't need to put the nuts on the map. No to market. But I mean, Ben, I already did that. I'm sorry. Guest on already did it.

00;50;42;12 - 00;50;46;29
Mark
We found it. George at the seventh line and concession 51.

00;50;47;05 - 00;50;49;01
Sarah
Why is it called a concession?

00;50;49;03 - 00;50;50;20
Mark
Okay. The reason why.

00;50;50;20 - 00;50;52;17
Sarah
It's called that a plot of land.

00;50;52;19 - 00;51;10;12
Mark
Yes. Okay. So in upper and lower Canada, concession roads were laid out by the colonial government through underdeveloped crown land to provide access to rows of newly surveyed lots intended for farming of new settlers. They were conceded by the crown.

00;51;10;13 - 00;51;22;05
Sarah
You've told me about this? Yeah. When you. When you told me about going out yonder in your parents farm fields. Yeah. That there was a road like every so many miles. Because those were concession.

00;51;22;12 - 00;51;25;22
Mark
Lines when you have a line of.

00;51;25;24 - 00;51;26;21
Sarah
So that's the.

00;51;26;22 - 00;51;27;10
Mark
Border of.

00;51;27;10 - 00;51;28;17
Sarah
A plot of land.

00;51;28;19 - 00;51;32;23
Mark
When you have a line in the county that's every mile, there's another line.

00;51;32;24 - 00;51;33;09
Sarah
Okay.

00;51;33;14 - 00;51;37;09
Mark
So, so they are seven miles from the county line.

00;51;37;11 - 00;51;38;06
Sarah
Mm hmm.

00;51;38;08 - 00;51;52;20
Mark
And 51 concessions in the other direction. Now, sometimes it's different directions. It's usually North-South, but it's okay reference based on and they are both for the county and the township.

00;51;52;27 - 00;51;53;13
Sarah
Gotcha.

00;51;53;13 - 00;51;54;00
Mark
So it may.

00;51;54;00 - 00;51;55;15
Sarah
Be So it's like a mile marker.

00;51;55;15 - 00;52;20;10
Mark
Yeah, it's like a mile marker. But I would suggest that this especially this one right here, seventh line concession 51, which is of course a reference to area 51 with the aliens. Roswell confirms that my crazy conspiracy theory about the tower on the location on the map when they had the chess pieces. Yeah that they put that into.

00;52;20;10 - 00;52;22;15
Sarah
I think so. Yeah, I think you're right.

00;52;22;15 - 00;52;31;28
Mark
Obviously they're having some fun. Yes. In the second half of this, they were like, Let's have all sorts of fun. Like they were going nuts above. Oh, here something happens.

00;52;31;28 - 00;52;53;17
Sarah
I don't understand. Okay, so they see the UFO, they go to Gaston's workshop. Miraculously, the body's gone now. They put the map on the same table. The body was gone. Remember, they're stuck in Jersey, though, because the train isn't running. Yes, but then Bracken Reed says, Well, I'm going to go to the Rouge Valley Land Company. How does he get there?

00;52;53;17 - 00;52;54;10
Mark
Where is the.

00;52;54;10 - 00;53;00;11
Sarah
Office? Because I thought it was in Toronto. That was the impression I had, because.

00;53;00;11 - 00;53;03;11
Mark
Murdock is in the station. And then he goes the office.

00;53;03;15 - 00;53;08;25
Sarah
But the Conte, the chief constable, is there. So either he's lurking around in Jersey ville.

00;53;09;00 - 00;53;09;13
Mark
Yeah.

00;53;09;15 - 00;53;12;21
Sarah
Or Bracken Reed teleports to Toronto.

00;53;12;25 - 00;53;16;19
Mark
There is geography problems with this episode.

00;53;16;21 - 00;53;21;05
Sarah
Oh, no. He says he'll take a carriage back to Toronto. Oh, that's right. That's how he does it.

00;53;21;05 - 00;53;21;27
Mark
That's how he does it.

00;53;21;27 - 00;53;24;13
Sarah
20 miles. What would that take them? Like an hour.

00;53;24;14 - 00;53;25;05
Mark
Maybe.

00;53;25;06 - 00;53;31;28
Sarah
Hour and a half or something. The Chief Constable is so super creepy. Yes. Lurking around. Oh.

00;53;32;00 - 00;53;34;11
Mark
Why is he doing that in the dark?

00;53;34;11 - 00;53;37;01
Sarah
He has no reason to know that. I can read this coming.

00;53;37;02 - 00;53;37;18
Mark
Now.

00;53;37;24 - 00;53;43;05
Sarah
So he must hang out there all the time in his uniform, in the dark, in.

00;53;43;05 - 00;53;44;26
Mark
The empty room.

00;53;44;29 - 00;53;49;01
Sarah
So creepy. Yeah. Meanwhile, a bunch of Russians are building a blimp.

00;53;49;07 - 00;53;53;02
Mark
Yeah. It's not a language. I know. It's Russian.

00;53;53;04 - 00;54;07;02
Sarah
Is it Martian? Is it foreign? It's Russian. They're just in there going. Does Sweden yet? Does Sweden. Yeah, that's Sweden. Babushka. Over and over again we're introduced. Why did they put the board through the handles on the outside.

00;54;07;02 - 00;54;15;04
Mark
Don't know why they also like come right through the door. Like anybody would be able to see them in defense.

00;54;15;04 - 00;54;27;07
Sarah
No trespassing, no entry, whatever. There's two big handles on this. Feel on this. The yard. Yeah. That there and the handles are on the outside of the door and there's a bar through them. It's on the outside.

00;54;27;07 - 00;54;31;05
Mark
Just take the bar off and they walk through the front door.

00;54;31;05 - 00;54;35;01
Sarah
But wait a minute. How do they get the bar through the handles if they're all inside.

00;54;35;01 - 00;54;41;17
Mark
Oh no. Maybe they put it down from the dirigible.

00;54;41;19 - 00;54;55;24
Sarah
So they're in their welding and stuff on the secret blimp. Yeah. That they just flew over and landed. But, you know, it's got problems and they got to fix it. Myers is like, the whole project's canceled. We got to go.

00;54;55;24 - 00;54;56;04
Mark
Yep.

00;54;56;11 - 00;55;04;27
Sarah
And the Russian like, no, no, we can't go until we get our 80 power horse engine, 80 horsepower engine the size of a pig.

00;55;05;04 - 00;55;07;15
Mark
Yeah. What? What?

00;55;07;17 - 00;55;11;22
Sarah
80 horsepower is nothing like, I think our lawnmower is more.

00;55;11;22 - 00;55;15;16
Mark
Than 80 horsepower and lawnmowers. Not the size of this thing.

00;55;15;22 - 00;55;17;16
Sarah
It's even smaller than a pig.

00;55;17;18 - 00;55;23;24
Mark
So then we have Meyer's explanation of what happened, which is. Oh.

00;55;23;26 - 00;55;25;20
Sarah
Randy's memoir.

00;55;25;25 - 00;55;28;07
Mark
So, Henry, I'll read.

00;55;28;07 - 00;55;29;04
Sarah
So fast.

00;55;29;06 - 00;55;31;23
Mark
So now is the time for your guest also.

00;55;31;26 - 00;55;33;01
Sarah
Oh, you want my guest on now?

00;55;33;01 - 00;55;36;27
Mark
Yes, yes, now I want guys to give.

00;55;36;29 - 00;55;58;08
Sarah
Coming up. No pressure, okay? No one dies like Gaston watches guys like Gaston. No one falls into trees from a plane like Gaston for there's no man in town. Half is crazy. His sister says his bets are gone. His stocks are all in outer space. See a government blimp and a jump. Now he's gone.

00;55;58;10 - 00;56;03;18
Mark
So that's the actual explanation. Henry was so freaked out, he jumped out.

00;56;03;20 - 00;56;22;25
Sarah
Yeah, he wouldn't sell his land, so they couldn't clear the valley to have a clear space to test their blimp. So they tried to creep him out with fake aliens, ending in them, abducting him and shoving him into the blam. He gets scared, he jumps out and he dies because his scarf gets caught in a tree.

00;56;22;25 - 00;56;23;09
Mark
He should have.

00;56;23;15 - 00;56;24;11
Sarah
Now granted.

00;56;24;14 - 00;56;24;23
Mark
Our.

00;56;24;23 - 00;56;33;16
Sarah
Offer. If his scarf hadn't got caught, he probably would have died anyway. But my question is, were they all dressed like Martians when they abducted him?

00;56;33;19 - 00;56;36;12
Mark
Again, a reenactment. We should.

00;56;36;12 - 00;56;44;20
Sarah
I wanted a flashback of Maya's wearing the shoes and like a green Lycra lizard printed outfit. Yeah.

00;56;44;22 - 00;56;49;04
Mark
But they think it's worse we get Ben was explanation.

00;56;49;05 - 00;57;02;05
Sarah
Well, they also thought that Gaston might have been a French spy. Yes, they knew there was a French spy, and they thought it was Gaston. But then he jumps out, he dies. They don't even retrieve him. They just leave him here.

00;57;02;07 - 00;57;07;14
Mark
Just leave him hanging in there. Did they not think somebody would notice? It caused all sorts of.

00;57;07;14 - 00;57;10;15
Sarah
Problems if they got his body out of the tree. None of this.

00;57;10;15 - 00;57;12;25
Mark
None of this really just disappeared.

00;57;12;26 - 00;57;13;17
Sarah
Yeah, right.

00;57;13;17 - 00;57;15;14
Mark
Or they kept the door shut.

00;57;15;19 - 00;57;22;12
Sarah
But then Ben comes along. He is the French spy, so they kill him by sucking his guts out with a big shot.

00;57;22;12 - 00;57;33;00
Mark
Back device used to rapidly deflate the dirigible. That does not exist. That is not possible this time.

00;57;33;03 - 00;57;33;14
Sarah
They could.

00;57;33;20 - 00;57;35;15
Mark
Extend your guard long enough, but.

00;57;35;20 - 00;57;40;24
Sarah
They could have made a suction device and they could have had it hooked up to a battery.

00;57;40;25 - 00;57;42;04
Mark
Electric motors.

00;57;42;04 - 00;57;43;25
Sarah
Or they could have had.

00;57;43;29 - 00;57;45;06
Mark
All also primitive.

00;57;45;08 - 00;57;46;27
Sarah
Well, it is the government market.

00;57;46;29 - 00;57;47;25
Mark
Oh, okay.

00;57;47;27 - 00;57;52;03
Sarah
They have technology that other people don't have, like an extension cord. Yes.

00;57;52;03 - 00;57;55;27
Mark
And now we're going to make you victims of a martian attack.

00;57;55;27 - 00;58;06;01
Sarah
But again, they could have just made Ben disappear. Yes, he was a confidence guy. He had multiple identities. He was a criminal. Yeah. Nobody would have missed him.

00;58;06;06 - 00;58;08;05
Mark
The cops were already on his case.

00;58;08;05 - 00;58;13;28
Sarah
He would have just been gone. Yeah, but now let's suck his guts out with a shot back and leave him.

00;58;14;00 - 00;58;15;29
Mark
You know what I want to know?

00;58;16;01 - 00;58;18;07
Sarah
And let's practice on a cow first.

00;58;18;07 - 00;58;27;14
Mark
Yep. So Aria arrives in Toronto. Mm. Unless he has foreknowledge of where They are. He has no idea where they are.

00;58;27;15 - 00;58;37;24
Sarah
All he has to do is follow Meyers. Yeah, that's all he's got to do. Meyers is getting on this train five times a day, going out to Jersey and back. It'd be easy to find out where it is.

00;58;37;27 - 00;58;39;23
Mark
They wake up. Elmer, stop that.

00;58;39;27 - 00;58;41;08
Sarah
The pocket with a stick.

00;58;41;09 - 00;58;47;27
Mark
Elmer and his wife are featured prominently in the Murdoch wiki. People really like them.

00;58;47;27 - 00;58;56;27
Sarah
As they should because they're time travelers. 1850. Okay, but when you find something, you don't know what it is. You pocket with a stick.

00;58;56;27 - 00;58;59;17
Mark
Yes, obviously they're still drunk.

00;58;59;22 - 00;59;00;17
Sarah
Yeah.

00;59;00;19 - 00;59;01;21
Mark
Nice face dirt.

00;59;01;21 - 00;59;04;24
Sarah
On. Well he's face down in the cloud field.

00;59;04;24 - 00;59;12;27
Mark
Yeah. But then it instantly changes because they arrive at the empty bar. It's all been a massive setup.

00;59;13;00 - 00;59;14;25
Sarah
Everything's gone. Yep.

00;59;14;27 - 00;59;17;25
Mark
I have a letter from the Prime Minister's office.

00;59;17;25 - 00;59;19;21
Sarah
Yeah. The political pressure is on.

00;59;19;23 - 00;59;22;24
Mark
And this is where they just start to pile on.

00;59;22;27 - 00;59;26;19
Sarah
If I was going to do something like this, I'd set it up somewhere in the desert in.

00;59;26;19 - 00;59;27;10
Mark
New Mexico.

00;59;27;10 - 00;59;29;12
Sarah
Like California or New Mexico.

00;59;29;13 - 00;59;36;27
Mark
Area 51. It's all conspiratorial. Like they might as well play X-Files music at this point.

00;59;37;01 - 00;59;41;28
Sarah
But then Bracken Reed says, No, I would put it in Wales because then nobody would go there.

00;59;42;01 - 00;59;45;15
Mark
Is there like a secret government thing in Wales?

00;59;45;23 - 00;59;50;05
Sarah
Bracken Reed says You're all crackers, you should do it in Wales. Nobody ever goes there.

00;59;50;05 - 00;59;51;06
Mark
Yeah, right.

00;59;51;08 - 01;00;05;27
Sarah
Which is funny. Yeah, but it's so it's not Roswell, Right? Roswell, New Mexico. So what is that joke about? Well, first of all, I think it should be Suffolk. Okay. He should have said Suffolk because that's where Rendlesham Forest is.

01;00;06;01 - 01;00;07;13
Mark
Oh, it's Rendlesham.

01;00;07;13 - 01;00;13;21
Sarah
Rendlesham is the 1980. It's an American base in England. Big UFO.

01;00;13;21 - 01;00;17;25
Mark
Flat. We talked about that in the midsummer episode with the Americans.

01;00;17;25 - 01;00;34;28
Sarah
Yes, but he says Wales. So people on IMDB are like, Oh, that's a Torchwood reference. Okay, it's not a Torchwood reference. It's a reference to the Broad Haven triangle or the I'm going to say David David d y s e d Okay, but it's Welsh.

01;00;35;00 - 01;00;35;21
Mark
Okay.

01;00;35;23 - 01;01;02;00
Sarah
The Difford triangle. Okay, I'm going to say Broad Haven. How about okay, from February to like April or May in 1977, dozens of unrelated people reported seeing a flying saucer in the Bar Haven triangle, including whole groups of schoolchildren. Well, yes, and police people and sailors and all kinds of people. So it was a huge deal there. Yeah, it is.

01;01;02;00 - 01;01;03;28
Sarah
It is. Wales is Roswell.

01;01;03;28 - 01;01;04;16
Mark
Oh, okay.

01;01;04;22 - 01;01;13;04
Sarah
And that's what it happens to you. It's got to be to this day that the police put up with all kinds of crap.

01;01;13;04 - 01;01;14;03
Mark
Oh, I'm sure they do.

01;01;14;04 - 01;01;14;23
Sarah
So on their way.

01;01;14;23 - 01;01;16;21
Mark
Can you imagine being a cop in Roswell?

01;01;16;21 - 01;01;41;25
Sarah
I know on the the different police website, they have all the Slayer requests, the Freedom of Information Act requests that have been approved for their area. They just put all that information up. So if anybody's got it from any request, they just share it with the world. It's been requested. Has been cleared. Here it is. Yeah. And it's everything from like arrest records to the frequency of graffiti and, you know, common traffic stops.

01;01;41;25 - 01;02;02;22
Sarah
Everything is there. Yeah. Including and this is a six year range. Okay. 2005 to 2 to 2011. Okay. Difford. Yeah. 40 been recorded. UFO sightings, 26 ghost reports, 11 witches, two zombies and two vampires.

01;02;02;25 - 01;02;04;27
Mark
Well, there needs to be a television show.

01;02;04;27 - 01;02;18;27
Sarah
That does those. Please. People are saying yeah, because they voluntarily weren't there. Yeah, those 11 witches. I feel bad for them. George, who calls the police when they think they saw a ghost?

01;02;18;27 - 01;02;19;23
Mark
I don't know.

01;02;20;01 - 01;02;24;24
Sarah
26 people. Six people are the same person going 26 times.

01;02;24;28 - 01;02;28;20
Mark
So we have all four principles here. Bracken Reed, George.

01;02;28;20 - 01;02;29;06
Sarah
Julia.

01;02;29;06 - 01;02;34;20
Mark
Julia, Murdoch. Murdoch. I think they may have not known if they were going to get renewed or not.

01;02;34;26 - 01;02;43;12
Sarah
I can see that the end of season one and they all kind of walk off together. Yeah. If, if this is where it ended, that would have been a good wrap.

01;02;43;12 - 01;02;51;20
Mark
Well, and it's still city TV at this point in time which is not the most like it's they're on CBC now which is the moneymaker.

01;02;51;20 - 01;02;56;07
Sarah
What's the equivalent of Citi TV in the U.S.? Is it like a regional thing?

01;02;56;08 - 01;02;59;17
Mark
Yeah, it's a regional thing, but it's Toronto so.

01;02;59;25 - 01;03;03;10
Sarah
But it have been like a Chicago station. Yeah. Okay.

01;03;03;13 - 01;03;04;19
Mark
It would have been like that Bigger.

01;03;04;19 - 01;03;10;12
Sarah
City, but still fairly local. Yes. Okay. Best corpse. I'm going with the cow.

01;03;10;13 - 01;03;15;11
Mark
Yeah, the cows, the best, the those feet in the air.

01;03;15;13 - 01;03;16;25
Sarah
Because that cow is just sweet.

01;03;16;25 - 01;03;19;09
Mark
And the idea of a picture that.

01;03;19;11 - 01;03;21;22
Sarah
Yes, a slight drop.

01;03;21;25 - 01;03;24;04
Mark
But the feet in the air.

01;03;24;11 - 01;03;28;10
Sarah
It would have to be a calf, right? Yeah. Because they're so close together.

01;03;28;13 - 01;03;29;12
Mark
Yeah, absolutely.

01;03;29;13 - 01;03;32;05
Sarah
It'd difficult to get all four feet in the shot.

01;03;32;06 - 01;03;40;16
Mark
The picture on IMDB is one of the cow feet. And George, in the background.

01;03;40;18 - 01;03;47;01
Sarah
After the credit. Yeah, well, Elmer and his wife are going to plant a crop and it's going to grow up weird.

01;03;47;07 - 01;03;48;22
Mark
It's going to go where.

01;03;48;25 - 01;03;52;18
Sarah
It's going to be all twisty and purple corner something.

01;03;52;22 - 01;04;00;22
Mark
Jake and Curt go back to their respective countries. Yes, everything gets forgotten. Poor Henry Guest on Sister Adriana.

01;04;00;25 - 01;04;07;13
Sarah
Yeah, she's just. I don't feel poor for her. She's just going to keep selling little boots to ladies, I guess.

01;04;07;15 - 01;04;10;04
Mark
But like, she never gets an explanation.

01;04;10;09 - 01;04;11;09
Sarah
I guess Not.

01;04;11;12 - 01;04;12;09
Mark
Really.

01;04;12;12 - 01;04;13;10
Sarah
Does she care?

01;04;13;11 - 01;04;13;28
Mark
I don't know.

01;04;13;29 - 01;04;15;04
Sarah
I don't think she cares.

01;04;15;04 - 01;04;19;09
Mark
Grumbling criminal grumbles.

01;04;19;11 - 01;04;23;11
Sarah
We know Terrence Myers is going to go on to do other things. Government things.

01;04;23;11 - 01;04;27;05
Mark
The things that Terrence Myers, the wrong man.

01;04;27;08 - 01;04;34;14
Sarah
And I guess they just they move the airship somewhere else and continue their experiments. Yeah, but it never gets used.

01;04;34;14 - 01;04;34;26
Mark
And never.

01;04;34;26 - 01;04;37;07
Sarah
Gets stuck in a war or anything. Right.

01;04;37;07 - 01;04;46;02
Mark
And the scientist is never referred to in the name. And here the professor Ski. Yeah. I think they wanted to use him again, but they didn't.

01;04;46;05 - 01;04;49;18
Sarah
Yeah, poor Jersey, the.

01;04;49;20 - 01;04;51;02
Mark
Poor Jersey Bill.

01;04;51;04 - 01;05;02;21
Sarah
Everybody else is like that was sad anyway. Yeah. Like, no. Ooh, it's a mystery. How did he end up in that tree? So, whatever. He was crazy. Yeah, that sound really crazy. And he's not.

01;05;02;22 - 01;05;18;25
Mark
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01;05;19;02 - 01;05;20;04
Sarah
Our sister Bonhoeffer's.

01;05;20;09 - 01;05;20;20
Mark
Sister.

01;05;20;20 - 01;05;22;10
Sarah
Volume she lots of fun.

01;05;22;12 - 01;05;29;23
Mark
And then June 26, the day after my birthday, we will be returning with Season two Episode one Mild Mild West.

01;05;29;28 - 01;05;33;19
Sarah
You saying that because you think I'm going to forget your birthday? No. Like I did that one time.

01;05;33;22 - 01;05;39;14
Mark
You did one time, but many years. It's been years since you forgot my birthday.

01;05;39;17 - 01;05;41;08
Sarah
Oh, let's go celebrate our anniversary.

01;05;41;08 - 01;06;04;16
Mark
Yes, let's celebrate our anniversary by maniacs. By maniacs. Those markers, these horrific in this place.

01;06;04;16 - 01;06;14;27
Sarah
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. And wow, that would take days to clean out your vacuum.