Episode 169 - Murdoch Mysteries - "Mild Mild West" - Pinky Pea-Shooter, Logistics Bell & Cowboy Boba Fett
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Episode 169 - Murdoch Mysteries - "Mild Mild West" - Pinky Pea-Shooter, Logistics Bell & Cowboy Boba Fett

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Sarah
Hi, I'm Sarah. Combined. Combined. Combined. Combined. Combined. I'm in the show. Combined. Combined. Combined. Combined. Hey, maniacs.

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Mark
Hey, maniacs.

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Sarah
It's mystery maniac.

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Mark
Mystery Maniacs is a comedy recap podcast dedicated to mystery TV. Each week we dig into the episode of the show, including the murders, the mayhem, the loonies, and everything else. That's on my T-shirt today.

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Sarah
Yes, you do have the t shirt on today. Good job.

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Mark
Yes. This week we're covering the Murdoch mysteries. Season two Episode one Mild, Mild West. I am.

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Sarah
Mark. I'm Sarah. Before we dive in, a couple of awesome announcements.

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Mark
Yes.

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Sarah
Especially for things that are going to happen fairly soon.

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Mark
Okay. So first of all, we made a big old donation to Target ovarian cancer that was based off your merch.

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Sarah
Thank you so much to everybody who.

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Mark
£250.

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Sarah
Yes.

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Mark
We gave to Target and you.

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Sarah
It in pounds. It just sounds like it sounds weightier. It sounds like more money than if it's dollars.

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Mark
It was. Thank you all. It was great amount of money. I can't believe how fantastic our fans are.

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Sarah
Yes. Thanks to everybody who bought something. And again, if you've got an idea for a T-shirt bag.

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Mark
Let us know.

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Sarah
Sticking with ever.

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Mark
Second half of the year, we're giving our merch sales to partners in Health who will be helping maternal health in Sierra Leone.

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Sarah
They're building that.

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Mark
Building the hospital.

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Sarah
On other sign announcements. Listen up. This is upcoming stuff.

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Mark
So we're recovering. Murdock Season two. Mm hmm. Okay. But we're going to sprinkle in some other stuff, too.

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Sarah
Yes, including a live episode of one of the episodes for season two. Yeah, that's going to be coming up. We'll announce some dates in the next week or so.

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Mark
If you if you want dates, the best place to do thing to do is join the newsletter, because.

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Sarah
That's where they'll come out first.

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Mark
We'll probably announce them first in the newsletter that comes out July 5th. Yeah, and you can join that newsletter by going to our website or I put it in the announcement notes for all the episodes or just email me and I'll tell you how to do it.

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Sarah
Yeah, yeah. It's just it's an easy way for us to distribute the dates, but we'll we'll announce them here too. We're just figuring out final details, but we are going to do a live episode of one of the Season two Murdock episodes. And, well, I'm even more excited about.

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Mark
It's super exciting.

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Sarah
As we are going to have our first, I would dare say annual, our first annual.

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Mark
I would even say biannual.

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Sarah
I think some do this, maybe the one. It's going to be a Midsomer Murders Live pub quiz.

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Mark
So this is what we're envisioning. We're not sure if we can get the technology to work yet, but we're trying. We're envisioning that we ask a series of incredibly esoteric midsummer questions. Well.

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Sarah
There will be a level of difficulty that go up, right? Some easy some will be hard so everybody can join in.

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Mark
And you on your computer or your phone watching the livestream will be able to answer.

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Sarah
Yes.

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Mark
And the points will be placed in a leader board. And all this excellent.

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Sarah
Things and prizes will be given.

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Mark
Prizes will be awarded.

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Sarah
Yes. So that'll be fine. And again, we're going to do that sometime before the end of the summer for sure.

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Mark
Yes, absolutely. Sometime before the. Oh, my gosh.

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Sarah
We just don't announce a specific date because we're still trying to figure out which tool will be best.

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Mark
Happy Halloween and Merry Christmas.

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Mark
Yeah.

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Sarah
It's practically over already.

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Mark
Oh, can it be so fast?

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Sarah
I know.

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Mark
Also, we want to thank Jerry you. He was a fantastic guy.

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Sarah
He's so nice.

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Mark
From sister office. And we want to tell you, we're trying to do more interviews, but we're not turning into an interview show. But we we definitely do like doing them.

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Sarah
I think they're really good for when we're taking a week off to release one of those or as an extra bonus episode in addition to the regular episodes. Yeah, we're.

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Mark
Always going to do regular.

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Sarah
But we've got some lines out now for some additional ones from people who we think you'll recognize. So we'll see what happens there. But in the meantime, look for dates being announced for a live episode. Those are always fun. And for the Midsomer Murders pub quiz.

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Mark
And we also want to announce that contrary to public opinion, we are not a murdoch podcast now, because after Murdoch season two, we will be covering.

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Sarah
Father Brown's season one.

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Mark
Father Brown The new Father Brown.

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Mark
Yes.

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Mark
Season one.

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Sarah
Yes.

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Mark
The Mark Williams. Father Brown.

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Sarah
And unless new Midsummer's come out.

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Mark
Unless new midsummer's come out because new midsummer's take precedence over everything.

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Sarah
That's right.

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Mark
And I have a feeling probably Father Brown, season one will get interrupted by New Midsummer.

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Sarah
I think so. And we will scratch the record, Stop everything, Midsummer Beckham, if they come out after that.

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Mark
And then we have no idea what's going to happen. No. Good to tell you. You don't know what's going to happen.

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Sarah
We don't know.

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Mark
It's January 20, 24. Who knows? Yeah, it's a million.

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Sarah
Years would be something awesome.

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Mark
In addition, our read it to our Mystery maniacs has over 100 followers.

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Sarah
Let's hope it survives that summer and it survives. Then, following the news of getting rather weird over there.

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Mark
Right? It's kind of weird right now, but Midsummer Subreddit and our subreddit has been full of fun activities.

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Sarah
Oh, my gosh. So much fun stuff there. So. Okay. Are you ready for a mild, mild west?

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Mark
Yes. So this is a spoiler podcast. We remind you that.

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Sarah
We're going to ruin it.

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Mark
We're going to ruin it. And if your kids can go to a Wild West show, which they don't have any.

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Sarah
More, did you ever.

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Mark
Go to a.

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Sarah
No.

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Mark
I went to Frontier Town in upstate New York. It would have been May be 78, 79. It was the same year that I went to Santa Claus Village.

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Sarah
So I'll tell you right off the bat, the amount of gunfire in this episode makes me disconcerted. I really don't like it.

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Mark
It's a lot of gunfire.

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Sarah
And I know they were more common back then, but I just hate it all the firing up in the air, really. Like those bullets have to come down. Yep. And I guess maybe they were blanks, but probably not. Yeah I in reality in the in the actual show. Yes. No I'm not saying like when for filming Murdock they were using actual bullets.

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Sarah
No sir they weren't. I just ha ha. And then drunk people with guns. I'm like, just, ah, stop it.

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Mark
Yep.

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Sarah
Really Sorry.

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Mark
On February you.

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Sarah
Get it out of my system.

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Mark
2009 Directed by Paul Fox and written by Derek Schreier. Hey, it's a carnival.

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Sarah
And the games are rigged for Brack and read for Brack and Reed. Oh, it's the wind. Ju is so nice. I'm sure it's the wind, but maybe William should try first shot gets it.

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Mark
There's somebody throwing knives. And I looked into the history of knife throwing.

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Sarah
Another thing that makes me really nervous.

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Mark
And actually, it was kind of like, of course, there were contests of skill like this with the archery and IV throwing and stuff like that. But this sort of since journalism knife event is actually started out of Buffalo Bill's performances in Europe.

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Sarah
Wow. So he did meet Queen Victoria, by the way. He brags about it. He actually did.

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Mark
So this.

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Sarah
She liked him this.

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Mark
Wave of popularity of wild West shows in the Western arts involve knife throwing, archery whip cracking and sharpshooting. And we definitely see some of that on display here. So that knife throwing is not out of time and.

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Sarah
Actually taken a stick.

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Mark
It's actually really well placed.

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Sarah
You know what is anachronistic, What cowboy hat.

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Mark
Cowboy hat.

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Sarah
Do you know why?

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Mark
Yes, because cowboys didn't wear cowboy hats. Well, first.

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Sarah
Of all, they weren't.

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Mark
Cowboys. No.

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Sarah
But the hats they wore, I guess initially, you just imagine in your head, you know, the typical Marlboro Man looking guy on a horse.

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Mark
Yeah.

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Sarah
The sun behind him.

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Mark
Yep. Check shirt.

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Sarah
In the early.

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Mark
US.

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Sarah
In the early days in the Wild West.

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Mark
Boots.

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Sarah
He would have been wearing a bowler.

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Mark
Absolutely would have been wearing a bowler.

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Sarah
Like a Charlie Chaplin bowler.

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Mark
Yep.

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Sarah
And then but those didn't provide a lot of sun shade. So the first hat that we would consider sort of quote, a cowboy hat was called this has the best name of any hat.

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Mark
Okay.

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Sarah
It was called the boss of the plane.

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Mark
The boss of the plane?

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Sarah
Yeah, that's the name of the hat.

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Mark
George is the boss of the plane.

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Sarah
Later on, it was Stetsons first hat rolled out in 1865. So the top of it was a cylinder, a straight up cylinder with a flat top. And the brim was perfectly round and perfectly flat. It looked more like an Amish hat. Yeah. Than what we now call a cowboy.

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Mark
And they wore a lot of top hats in the Old West, too.

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Sarah
Yeah, but the boss of the plane.

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Mark
The boss.

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Sarah
Became very popular. I have to say it. Boss of the.

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Mark
Place. I'll try to find a picture that throw it in the show.

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Sarah
It became popular because it offered more shade to your eyes than a bowler or another kind of hat did. So they became popular.

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Mark
And this is really like the popularization of the mythology of America.

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Sarah
Yeah.

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Mark
We have to remember at this point, America is not a super superpower.

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Sarah
No. And even Bill admits, like these things, all this stuff that we're talking about is long gone, you know, long ago gone, because he was already doing this show in the 1850 and 1870s. Yeah.

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Mark
Like really right after the Civil War, he started it.

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Sarah
Yeah. So these days are long gone. And most of the stuff that they're talking about is kind of mythologized anyway.

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Mark
But it had lots of incredibly well-known people in it, like Annie Oakley, like Sitting Bull. Yeah, like Calamity Jane. She was a storyteller. That was part of.

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Sarah
Such a good named Calamity.

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Mark
And and all of these things, these re-enactments of Custer's Last Stand.

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Sarah
And Not Custard Custer.

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Mark
Custer's last year, The reenactment of Last Stand.

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Sarah
Very different.

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Mark
Custer.

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Sarah
But it's a Battle of Mars.

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Mark
Blah, blah, blah.

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Mark
It's all that mythology of the West, including romanticizing. Yeah, including unfortunately, a lot of anti Native American stuff.

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Sarah
So much so there were a lot of Native Americans involved in this show. I don't know how much they were. I don't know if they were paid the same. I'm sure they were voluntary, but they may not have had a lot of other options.

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Mark
But in fact, there were a lot of they had in the original Wild West show, they had Turks, Gauchos, Arabs, Mongols and Georgians displaying distinctive horse and colorful costumes.

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Sarah
Nice if they were real.

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Mark
Yeah.

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Mark
Yeah. All of this is a magical wonderland. Absolutely.

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Sarah
So we've got Wild Bill. And then there's Annie Oakley. Annie Oakley, was she? But she doesn't have a good nickname. She's not crazy Annie or anything. She goes to Annie, right? You said that you talked about Calamity Jane being another real person. But then in the episode, we've got one. I was.

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Mark
Just.

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Sarah
Forward. What would your old West nickname be?

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Mark
Oh, Hips hurt. Yeah, Hips hurt.

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Sarah
Bell Is that like a reference to how much you rode a horse.

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Mark
For.

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Sarah
Arthritis or or.

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Mark
Can't shoot worth a darn bell?

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Sarah
Those aren't very good nicknames.

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Mark
I wouldn't make a very good cowboy.

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Sarah
I think I would be like Pinky Peashooter.

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Mark
Yeah, Pinky be is good. And I'm a stick with you.

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Sarah
That I would shoot with really small guns. Yeah.

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Mark
I would be like, Whoa, this is dirty out here. Not very organized loud. You guys could do this a lot more efficiently. What is your workflow party planner?

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Sarah
Bal Logistics.

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Mark
Bal Logistics.

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Sarah
You're so hard core old master. I mean.

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Mark
Yeah.

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Sarah
You're behind the scenes, I think.

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Mark
Yes.

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Mark
And we a Buffalo bill who was a real guy who did shoot a lot of Buffalo's including got like a 24 hour buffalo shooting contest and all sorts of things. But I'm like, wait a minute, that's Nicholas Campbell. Yeah a very famous Canadian the actor.

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Sarah
Yeah.

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Mark
Who you would recognize instantly from a million things but he has been in everything but his IMDB page is super full and he's still working at 71. I think now he was in The Omen. Wow, right. That was his first movie. It was in Space 1999, a fantastically bizarre space show from the UK in the nineties. In the eighties, he was in David Cronenberg's The Brood about a bunch of demon babies that take over an apartment.

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Sarah
Speaking of The Omen, women demon babies who take over an apartment. Yeah, that's like Village of the Damned, but in one building.

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Mark
Oh, and they're much more evil.

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Sarah
Oh, yeah. Okay.

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Mark
Yeah. And and it's David Cronenberg, So you don't want to know where they come from.

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Sarah
That might be a little bit close to home. And we lived in an apartment. We lived in a two bedroom apartment, and our kids were like three. We have four three year olds in a two bedroom apartment, and that was kind of the.

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Mark
First to them was the brood. He is Dogs in the Dead Zone two No.

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Sarah
Stephen King movie.

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Mark
And he is well known for a show in Canada called The Venus Da Vinci's Inquest, where he plays a like medical examiner, a coroner call.

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Sarah
Well, he's a good Buffalo Bill.

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Mark
Yeah, I think. Well, he's a fantastic actor and he does a great job of making Buffalo Bill both humanized and character like he enjoys the mythologizing of the West.

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Sarah
He's realistic and.

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Mark
Very realistic about.

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Sarah
It. Well, he was a big enough.

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Mark
For his.

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Sarah
People. Yeah, he was a businessman. He was serious about making money and running the business. And, you know, we were joking about logistics, but imagine moving a show like this overseas.

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Mark
Yeah, that's.

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Sarah
How do you do that, Right? All those horses, all those people, all those props on a boat. Yep, it would. And they didn't.

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Mark
Think boat ride.

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Sarah
Do they. Did it in the 1870s.

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Mark
Yeah. Absolutely.

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Sarah
It's incredible. They were in London for Victoria's jubilee.

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Mark
Well, they had to take all the bad games that.

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Sarah
That Bracken recapture ran with.

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Mark
Rob's two short.

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Sarah
This is.

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Mark
As bad as nine Bob Note.

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Sarah
Chekhov's lasso.

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Mark
Yes Chekhov.

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Mark
Slots.

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Sarah
Right because we have to know that Murdoch can draw lasso because later it's going to become important.

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Mark
He says nine Bob note here It's a weird thing that people do where they say something as is as weird, or they use other words.

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Sarah
Like a $3.

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Mark
Bill, $3 bill, $2 bill. In Canada, though, I remember having $2 bills in Canada.

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Sarah
I say $2 bill. It doesn't work because we had $2 bills too. Yeah, and they're still tourneys.

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Mark
Everybody had $2 bills. You can't do it now because the opportunities are and Murdoch wins a hat.

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Sarah
Now that's a nice prize.

00;16;21;19 - 00;16;22;08
Mark
That is for.

00;16;22;08 - 00;16;28;14
Sarah
Throwing a big rope around a big horse that's like five feet away.

00;16;28;17 - 00;16;30;12
Mark
And it is a big hat.

00;16;30;12 - 00;16;41;19
Sarah
And it's like lined and it's a it's a high quality hat. But Bracken Reid's not going to put it on. No, but, you know. Well, George Drew, of course.

00;16;41;21 - 00;17;05;06
Mark
So every year before a show starts, they meet with the showrunner, the the principal actors and probably some of the people who are going to write episode. And they say this year on the show, we're going to do these things right. And they clearly said this year we're going to have more of the funny. Yeah, because there is definite jokes in this.

00;17;05;08 - 00;17;06;13
Sarah
Right off the bat.

00;17;06;15 - 00;17;14;08
Mark
This this is we keep saying that this is the quintessential new Murdoch episode, but this is the era at Stark.

00;17;14;08 - 00;17;15;06
Sarah
Yeah. Yeah.

00;17;15;06 - 00;17;25;10
Mark
So because we cut to George looking like a ginormous ten year old. Yeah. Did you see the kid behind him? Tried to speak around.

00;17;25;15 - 00;17;35;20
Sarah
He has to stand up. He's got his popcorn back, and we just keep talking. I am like, Oh, my gosh, I'm so embarrassed to be near you.

00;17;35;23 - 00;17;42;02
Mark
This is this is why we love George, because he is unbridled, youthful enthusiasm.

00;17;42;03 - 00;17;43;19
Sarah
Yeah, Curiosity.

00;17;43;22 - 00;17;52;21
Mark
Joy throws himself into it, absolutely enjoys it. And boy, the next note I have is that's a lot of shoot.

00;17;52;23 - 00;17;54;01
Mark
Yeah.

00;17;54;04 - 00;18;14;26
Sarah
They just come out and they're like, Hi, I'm Sarah. Bang bang combine combine combines. I'm in the show. Combine goodbye and goodbye. Goodbye, goodbye. I you don't have to punctuate every word with a gunshot. I won't just have magically auto filling guns do because they would have to stop and refill those six shooters all the time.

00;18;14;28 - 00;18;29;09
Mark
I went to Frontier Town when I was a child. I mentioned it before there was a show like this. We went to the West Bank, a big get bang, and we also rode on a train that got robbed. Oh, it was fantastic. I can't remember.

00;18;29;15 - 00;18;30;12
Sarah
Who robbed it.

00;18;30;15 - 00;18;33;06
Mark
Some little some bandits with masks.

00;18;33;09 - 00;18;38;29
Sarah
Okay. Okay. They were. They were Wild West bandits. It wasn't natives, you know. Good. Okay.

00;18;39;01 - 00;18;41;12
Mark
Just. They would have to employ it.

00;18;41;15 - 00;18;43;04
Sarah
So they stopped the train.

00;18;43;05 - 00;18;52;07
Mark
They. They rode the horses along the train, jumped onto the train while we're on the train. Whoa. It was pretty fantastic, the fact.

00;18;52;07 - 00;18;54;29
Sarah
That you remember it. And you would have been, what, eight or something?

00;18;54;29 - 00;18;57;14
Mark
Eight or nine. And I don't think I was doing.

00;18;57;17 - 00;18;59;26
Sarah
Some fancy stunt work.

00;18;59;28 - 00;19;05;18
Mark
For upstate New York. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it's still around. I'll have to look. I see a friend called.

00;19;05;22 - 00;19;07;06
Sarah
Safety would let them do that.

00;19;07;06 - 00;19;21;05
Mark
No more. So that whole trip was a health problem. We also went to Santa Clauses Village, and I have to say, even at that early age, I was like, these rides are stars.

00;19;21;07 - 00;19;21;11
Mark
And.

00;19;21;11 - 00;19;24;01
Sarah
Santa Clause. People said.

00;19;24;03 - 00;19;31;27
Mark
Oh, I knew Santa Claus was was not the person he says he is. You might have young Whistler.

00;19;31;29 - 00;19;59;22
Sarah
Did he smell like liquor? So Wilcox and Mark Rawlins have this this, this show, this trick where Wilcox shoots a mick Rawlins. Right. He shoots off, he shoots his bottle out of his hand, and then Mick Rawlins catches a bullet in his grill. Yep. His gold teeth. He's got one real tooth in his mouth.

00;19;59;25 - 00;20;01;24
Mark
He's one a clown or whatever.

00;20;01;28 - 00;20;05;22
Sarah
Yeah, but does that mean he has gold, dentures?

00;20;05;25 - 00;20;07;00
Mark
I don't know. It's.

00;20;07;03 - 00;20;11;20
Sarah
Or are they not considering, like, a crown, like a cap, a real tooth?

00;20;11;21 - 00;20;15;03
Mark
I kind of think it's hard to eat with that much gold in your mouth.

00;20;15;05 - 00;20;27;26
Sarah
I can't stand to have anything. Like if I bite on a piece of foil, it's like I've been electrocuted. Like, ooh, the feeling. I can't imagine having that much metal in your mouth. No, just bad buffalo.

00;20;27;26 - 00;20;45;16
Mark
Billed as a kind of cool thing here, where when he's telling the story, it's old timey film. And what? What? I think that's a nod to two things. First of all, the whole notion of the Wild West is deeply linked to the early, early films.

00;20;45;19 - 00;20;46;01
Sarah
Right.

00;20;46;04 - 00;20;57;19
Mark
Right. So our viewers are views of the Clapper town and the train and the the the wagon train and all that stuff come straight out of Hollywood.

00;20;57;19 - 00;21;00;03
Sarah
Yeah, this town a big enough for the two of us.

00;21;00;03 - 00;21;11;27
Mark
So I think that that's great that they do that. But also I wanted to I think it's a slight reference to remember what I told you about the black Maria at Edison's shop.

00;21;11;28 - 00;21;12;22
Sarah
Mm hmm.

00;21;12;25 - 00;21;27;01
Mark
Annie Oakley did a movie there. Oh, in 80. So it would be 94. She did a movie. So right before this, she did a movie for Thomas Edison where they throwing up? Now the black Mariah is not.

00;21;27;01 - 00;21;28;10
Sarah
Big now.

00;21;28;12 - 00;21;37;29
Mark
And they're throwing up these glass balls and she's shooting at them. And I'm like, that's going right down to the side of the one.

00;21;37;29 - 00;21;40;05
Sarah
Mariah. The bullet is going to keep going. Yeah.

00;21;40;06 - 00;21;46;13
Mark
So I was like, Yeah, that was not No, no, we filmed it.

00;21;46;15 - 00;22;08;15
Sarah
So the whole purpose of this, this movie kind of flashback is that Wilcox and Nick Rollins are famous because they killed this outlaw name, Chester McGhee. Right. And they supposedly gave him a fair shot. They split him a gun, and they still shot him before he could pull off a shot. And so there are famous to some for hunting down this outlaw.

00;22;08;21 - 00;22;10;20
Sarah
And now they're in Wild Bill's show.

00;22;10;21 - 00;22;12;12
Mark
Yes. And this is all not.

00;22;12;12 - 00;22;13;15
Sarah
Real now.

00;22;13;15 - 00;22;16;05
Mark
But they're there's hundreds of stories like.

00;22;16;05 - 00;22;30;00
Sarah
That. Right. But that's what gets them in the show and makes them famous and whatever. Yes, but of course, Jaws doesn't catch a bullet in his teeth. He has a bullet in his mouth already and somebody else shoots him at the same time.

00;22;30;03 - 00;22;37;04
Mark
Which. Okay, the person who shoots them, let's call him the kid who takes care of the horse.

00;22;37;07 - 00;22;37;29
Sarah
Theodore.

00;22;38;04 - 00;22;47;08
Mark
Theodore. Like there's no buildings around here. There's no mountains or cliffs around here.

00;22;47;11 - 00;22;48;10
Sarah
Okay.

00;22;48;12 - 00;22;55;19
Mark
So when he shot from the side of the stands, everyone should have immediately turned and looked at him.

00;22;55;19 - 00;23;04;11
Sarah
I don't know. I completely buy that. Everybody would have been paying really close attention to somebody about to shoot somebody else in the head.

00;23;04;15 - 00;23;11;09
Mark
Me, I guess. But as soon as that shot was fired, somebody's got to look to the side.

00;23;11;12 - 00;23;27;25
Sarah
Well, he is shooting a rifle, and that would sound really different than a pistol. But I don't know. I mean, if he was between the barrels, he was out of sight and he was fast and then he would just look like some guy standing there. As soon as he put the gun down, I think he could have pulled it off.

00;23;27;29 - 00;23;38;04
Mark
Well, luckily, Murdoch, Bracken, Reed, George and Julia are all here. Yep. And take care of looking into what's going on.

00;23;38;10 - 00;24;00;25
Sarah
Because it's the age old trope of the busman's holiday, Right? Wherever a cop goes, there's going to be a crime. Yeah, but at least Murdoch has Julia, who's also part of it. And not like Barnaby enjoys treatment and been like, Oh, I'll go home. See you later. Another day ruined mine. Like devoting everything we do for fun. Somebody dies.

00;24;00;27 - 00;24;13;15
Mark
So the idea is that he doesn't actually shoot him. He just brings the bullet in from underneath his tongue. It's a it's an old magician's trick. Right. And the puff that he takes on the cigaret.

00;24;13;19 - 00;24;14;26
Sarah
Makes it look like Gunsmoke.

00;24;14;26 - 00;24;16;27
Mark
Let's make Gunsmoke and his mouth.

00;24;16;29 - 00;24;30;02
Sarah
That does gold teeth like we're supposed to believe that because his teeth are gold, he can stop a bullet. Yeah. I mean, there's two things that really make me squeamish in shows, and that's teeth stuff. And I stuff.

00;24;30;06 - 00;24;32;11
Mark
Well, you get teeth stuff, man.

00;24;32;11 - 00;24;44;15
Sarah
When Julia looks at his body and opens his mouth and there's that bloody gum I have. Oh, makes my face hurt. I know it's not real and it still makes my face hard.

00;24;44;16 - 00;24;50;07
Mark
This is my least favorite Margaret episode because she is the most Ann-Margret person in this episode.

00;24;50;09 - 00;24;56;06
Sarah
Yeah. Mrs. Bracken Reed. All she does is bustle and and bustle out and jazzercise, and she's way more interesting.

00;24;56;06 - 00;24;57;08
Mark
Not like that.

00;24;57;10 - 00;25;05;24
Sarah
Not like she. You have such a soft spot for her. You're like, That's not who she really is. She wants to watch. She's not really a person.

00;25;05;24 - 00;25;14;14
Mark
She wants. She wants to improve. Breckin Braddock can read, but she also has a fun, interesting story, too.

00;25;14;15 - 00;25;31;03
Sarah
She does later, but right now she's just mother and she does. I love that Brick And Reed hides his liquor in Murdock's desk and he finds it when he gets it out. Murdock looks at him like I have that of. Of course it's there. Never mind. Anyway.

00;25;31;06 - 00;25;32;16
Mark
He just keeps moving on.

00;25;32;16 - 00;25;36;02
Sarah
He does. He wears it on his face, and then he just moves on.

00;25;36;02 - 00;25;39;00
Mark
Yeah. So they got to find the bullet in the haystack.

00;25;39;05 - 00;25;42;16
Sarah
They never heard of a magnet like or water.

00;25;42;22 - 00;25;47;01
Mark
It's another way to do it. You put it in water and the bullet sinks and the head.

00;25;47;01 - 00;25;49;19
Sarah
Floats, but not if it's an wedged in a big bale.

00;25;49;21 - 00;25;51;18
Mark
Oh, no, you unbalanced.

00;25;51;18 - 00;25;53;16
Sarah
That would have been a big bucket.

00;25;53;20 - 00;25;58;05
Mark
Yeah, well, usually what you do is you usually try.

00;25;58;07 - 00;26;01;13
Sarah
Usually it's something you do on a regular basis.

00;26;01;19 - 00;26;10;04
Mark
Well, I do have a trivia question for you. What is the first instance of looking for a needle in a haystack?

00;26;10;06 - 00;26;11;21
Sarah
Oh, I don't know.

00;26;11;23 - 00;26;13;13
Mark
Take a wild guess.

00;26;13;18 - 00;26;21;21
Sarah
I would have thought it would have been like from a fairy tale or something. It was an impossible task, but somebody had to complete like a Rumpelstiltskin kind of task.

00;26;21;25 - 00;26;28;14
Mark
1532 Thomas More It is like to go looking for a needle in a meadow.

00;26;28;18 - 00;26;31;14
Sarah
Oh, that's not a haystack, though. That's not the same.

00;26;31;14 - 00;26;33;29
Mark
But that's okay. In the first instance, it's.

00;26;34;00 - 00;26;35;26
Sarah
Also a case where a magnet would have helped.

00;26;36;02 - 00;26;51;16
Mark
That exact way. Well, how do they work? I like how Buffalo Bill talks to Teddy here. He says this is a good job. Yeah. Did a good thing. Keep it up. Mm hmm.

00;26;51;18 - 00;26;52;19
Sarah
Well, he's a good boss.

00;26;52;22 - 00;26;54;04
Mark
He is a very good.

00;26;54;04 - 00;27;03;08
Sarah
And he has a fine shirt on. I look at Bill's throughout the whole episode. It's beautiful. It's like silk and embroidered and awesome.

00;27;03;11 - 00;27;12;04
Mark
Okay, so now we have our two stereotypes, which are black, angry cowboy guy and Annie Oakley.

00;27;12;06 - 00;27;13;24
Mark
Yeah.

00;27;13;26 - 00;27;18;26
Mark
So black, angry cowboy guy is Wharton, and he could be summed up.

00;27;18;26 - 00;27;20;01
Sarah
He's the loner.

00;27;20;07 - 00;27;20;21
Mark
Yes.

00;27;20;28 - 00;27;22;19
Sarah
Who has fewer few words.

00;27;22;19 - 00;27;24;10
Mark
Yeah, that's what he is.

00;27;24;10 - 00;27;28;08
Sarah
Nope. I don't think his race has anything to do with it. He's the loner.

00;27;28;15 - 00;27;30;17
Mark
Yeah, I think. I think the.

00;27;30;17 - 00;27;32;17
Sarah
Cowboy used to be in on his own.

00;27;32;18 - 00;27;39;18
Mark
I think it's a nod to the fact that a lot of people don't realize how many black cowboys there were. Yeah, but it's never spoken about.

00;27;39;18 - 00;27;43;16
Sarah
He's the bounty hunter. Yeah, really? He's the Boba Fett of this episode.

00;27;43;16 - 00;27;49;07
Mark
He is. He's Boba Fett. He's the Mandalorian. Yes. This is the way.

00;27;49;09 - 00;27;57;20
Sarah
Few words. Yeah. Me and my weapon. Yeah. You know, serious. Yeah. I'll break into a morgue and cut a man's head off for money.

00;27;57;23 - 00;28;01;14
Mark
And we're not doing anybody that they don't talk enough. Murdock.

00;28;01;18 - 00;28;04;22
Sarah
Yeah. Hello? Pot calling. Bring cutting bring.

00;28;05;00 - 00;28;08;25
Mark
So, Eddie and broken ribs start to flirt right away.

00;28;08;27 - 00;28;18;27
Sarah
And he's quite the flirt. Yeah. Her. But she's so well documented. Annie Oakley as they looked at photos and they recreated her dress perfectly.

00;28;19;00 - 00;28;28;13
Mark
Yes. Do you know how they are? She's actually married at this point in time. To another sharpshooter. Do you know how they met? No. He. She beat him in a contest.

00;28;28;15 - 00;28;29;09
Sarah
Nice.

00;28;29;09 - 00;28;30;04
Mark
And that's how they met.

00;28;30;04 - 00;28;32;09
Sarah
Then they get married when she was like 15 or something.

00;28;32;12 - 00;28;33;21
Mark
We're not going to talk about that.

00;28;33;22 - 00;28;35;11
Sarah
They're married for like, a long time.

00;28;35;11 - 00;28;36;09
Mark
They were.

00;28;36;12 - 00;28;50;08
Sarah
She's got all of her medals on, which she always did for the show. Every photo of her shows that she's got like a wide skirt with the colonel lines underneath it, which was considered very short for the time that it only when.

00;28;50;11 - 00;28;52;04
Mark
She was a scandalous lady.

00;28;52;04 - 00;29;03;03
Sarah
Well, I think it was because she started when she was so young that that's the kind of dress you would expect a 15 six year old girl to wear. And she just stayed with that esthetic.

00;29;03;04 - 00;29;10;20
Mark
It's almost exactly the same dress. She's in the movie. Mm hmm. I think that's another reason why I think they're directly referencing the.

00;29;10;20 - 00;29;12;08
Mark
Movie.

00;29;12;10 - 00;29;17;19
Sarah
As she's flirting. Like you want some. You want a smaller. Yeah. Rack and read.

00;29;17;21 - 00;29;18;06
Mark
Now.

00;29;18;07 - 00;29;19;06
Sarah
And some notes.

00;29;19;09 - 00;29;20;08
Mark
I do have a problem.

00;29;20;10 - 00;29;24;17
Sarah
You have lots of problems, but I love you anyway. Thank you.

00;29;24;20 - 00;29;26;19
Mark
She has toured Europe.

00;29;26;24 - 00;29;27;12
Sarah
Yes.

00;29;27;12 - 00;29;31;15
Mark
I don't know if she's going to call Bracken Mead's accent funny.

00;29;31;17 - 00;29;37;05
Sarah
In the context of where she meets them. And she might not mean it. Maybe she might just be flirting.

00;29;37;06 - 00;29;41;27
Mark
While she's certainly flirting hardcore. Let's get you drunk and shooting.

00;29;41;29 - 00;29;47;27
Sarah
You know the thing that makes me so nervous, even in a TV show?

00;29;48;03 - 00;29;53;19
Mark
So we find out the bullet as it comes from a hollow point, which means it's from a rifle.

00;29;53;22 - 00;30;03;15
Sarah
And. And then Bracken Reed does the best. Murdock impression ever as George invents Post-its.

00;30;03;17 - 00;30;13;17
Mark
After the joke of. Well, the bullet came from a rifle, so we don't need to find the extra bolt. Yeah, I mean, just by this.

00;30;13;20 - 00;30;17;19
Sarah
George and Henry have been doing this all day.

00;30;17;22 - 00;30;18;07
Mark
And this.

00;30;18;07 - 00;30;19;22
Sarah
Is. Never mind that.

00;30;19;24 - 00;30;23;14
Mark
This is a long line of George and and.

00;30;23;16 - 00;30;25;23
Sarah
Henry generally do is dry.

00;30;25;25 - 00;30;27;05
Mark
Turns out to be useless.

00;30;27;05 - 00;30;27;23
Sarah
Yeah.

00;30;27;26 - 00;30;33;20
Mark
That impression of Murdoch is fantastic. He drops his voice and just.

00;30;33;23 - 00;30;34;05
Mark
Does.

00;30;34;05 - 00;30;35;17
Mark
It so well.

00;30;35;17 - 00;30;48;02
Sarah
And Murdoch's like that. Supposed to be me, sir. Take this parchment paper, roll this glue on it. You stick it all over the place. Yeah, I guess it's not Post-its, It's tape. Yeah, he invents tape.

00;30;48;02 - 00;30;52;21
Mark
They come very close to saying yes word, but they know not to wet scotch.

00;30;52;21 - 00;30;53;09
Sarah
Oh.

00;30;53;12 - 00;30;58;02
Mark
Then the notion of Scotch tape is hugely racist. Don't look into it. It's sad.

00;30;58;07 - 00;30;59;28
Sarah
Yeah, it's as bad as Paddy Wagon.

00;30;59;28 - 00;31;02;21
Mark
Yes. So.

00;31;02;23 - 00;31;23;11
Sarah
Bill. Bill says his eyesight's bad, so it couldn't have been him. Right? So they. They narrow it down to Wharton. The Bounty hunter, Boba Fett and Annie Oakley as being the two best shot to could have shot Jaws. Yes. And before the sentence is even finished, Bracken reads like I'll talk to you. I have rapport with her.

00;31;23;17 - 00;31;24;20
Mark
Yep.

00;31;24;22 - 00;31;32;24
Sarah
And he's gone. Wow. I'm going to go talk to the lady. She's got one liquor, too. She's a pretty girl. Yep, I'm out. I'm out.

00;31;32;27 - 00;31;41;19
Mark
Bring your wife and your sweetheart. That's a charming line. I would absolutely be knocked out. That's a real line from Buffalo.

00;31;41;26 - 00;31;54;13
Sarah
Oh, I can believe it, too. Yeah? Yeah, Because he's handing out free tickets in the in the station. Yep. So, Warden John Morton says that George got handsy with Annie, which I'm sure happened.

00;31;54;15 - 00;31;55;04
Mark
Yeah.

00;31;55;06 - 00;32;09;03
Sarah
I mean, how many women were part of this show? Probably not that many. I mean, I'm sure there were some seamstresses and stuff, but not many performed in the show. Yeah, but she's like, If I wanted to kill him, I would have done it.

00;32;09;03 - 00;32;12;15
Mark
And what, he comes off as educated here, too. He's well read.

00;32;12;18 - 00;32;13;18
Sarah
Yeah.

00;32;13;21 - 00;32;18;16
Mark
So then I would have aimed lower in this teeth.

00;32;18;18 - 00;32;23;19
Sarah
Then somebody breaks into the morgue and cuts off George's head.

00;32;23;21 - 00;32;29;10
Mark
Yeah, I think. I think Julia needs to be more like, Oh, my God.

00;32;29;13 - 00;32;45;00
Sarah
You're not. I can't believe somebody did this. I am here. I am offended. I'm violated that somebody broke into my morgue like, but they stole his head, like his hair, you know, like, and.

00;32;45;00 - 00;32;48;28
Mark
Left the bones in the sink. You could clean up my mess.

00;32;48;29 - 00;33;06;11
Sarah
They didn't even wash the dishes. It's like you're a teenager. Yes, I guess I had never connected in my in my head that when they say there's a bounty on your head, that somebody would have literally turned in somebody's head to get that bounty.

00;33;06;16 - 00;33;07;19
Mark
See work.

00;33;07;21 - 00;33;10;20
Sarah
My head's in a bag. It's gross.

00;33;10;20 - 00;33;11;24
Mark
Just oh.

00;33;11;26 - 00;33;16;23
Sarah
I just never made that connection that you could just bring the had to get the money.

00;33;16;23 - 00;33;22;27
Mark
But it ends up it's cowboy Boba Fett tries to take off in, like, the worst taking off ever.

00;33;22;27 - 00;33;25;00
Sarah
Yeah, I'm just going to run for it.

00;33;25;03 - 00;33;28;09
Mark
But Mira gets on the horse and takes care of business.

00;33;28;09 - 00;33;30;20
Sarah
Chekhov's Lasso. You knew he.

00;33;30;20 - 00;33;34;28
Mark
Was worth $2,000. Furs. Enormous amount of money.

00;33;34;28 - 00;33;50;02
Sarah
Enormous. Well, money in this episode is messed up. Yeah, because they talk about how much money the people on the show make a week and talk about not being a lot, but it's actually more than Murdoch makes. Yeah, in like a year.

00;33;50;09 - 00;33;53;20
Mark
$2,000 would be what he'd make in a decade.

00;33;53;21 - 00;34;02;29
Sarah
It'd be enough to live on forever. Yeah. For a long time. Yeah. And Bracken Reed says that I think it's Bracken Reed says that Wharton has skedaddled.

00;34;03;04 - 00;34;04;01
Mark
Skedaddle.

00;34;04;04 - 00;34;04;29
Sarah
Skedaddle.

00;34;05;01 - 00;34;06;27
Mark
Such a fun word.

00;34;06;29 - 00;34;11;24
Sarah
It's a term from the Civil War. Oh, US military slang skedaddled.

00;34;11;24 - 00;34;14;04
Mark
Yeah. For what it does to run away.

00;34;14;04 - 00;34;19;25
Sarah
Yeah, it's good. Yeah, but it was originally U.S. military slang. Speaking of slang.

00;34;19;25 - 00;34;21;14
Mark
Speaking of slang.

00;34;21;14 - 00;34;24;18
Sarah
Can we take a moment and do a little Wild West slang quiz?

00;34;24;25 - 00;34;26;04
Mark
Of course we can.

00;34;26;07 - 00;34;31;16
Sarah
Hear While the lasso is mid air around about to land on morning, we pause.

00;34;31;19 - 00;34;35;09
Mark
We call them cowboy.

00;34;35;11 - 00;34;46;25
Sarah
Because he's the bounty hunter. Yep. All right. So what I have is I have real slang from the Wild West. Okay? And I'm going to give you the term and you're going to guess what you think it means.

00;34;46;27 - 00;34;50;20
Mark
Okay? And these are not easy ones like little doggies or.

00;34;50;26 - 00;34;51;17
Sarah
No, no.

00;34;51;18 - 00;34;53;10
Mark
You know, these are got to be tough ones.

00;34;53;11 - 00;34;56;18
Sarah
I looked through 30 pages of Wild West because.

00;34;56;18 - 00;34;59;05
Mark
I have watched Western movies.

00;34;59;06 - 00;35;01;07
Sarah
I know. I was careful.

00;35;01;13 - 00;35;06;05
Mark
Okay, I'm ready to pee. How many are there?

00;35;06;08 - 00;35;07;08
Sarah
Not going to tell you yet.

00;35;07;12 - 00;35;11;12
Mark
Okay. I hope to get 40% right.

00;35;11;14 - 00;35;14;06
Sarah
What do you think? A crowbar, hotel.

00;35;14;09 - 00;35;37;13
Mark
Hunk, crowbar, Hotel. I would think a crowbar. Hotel is a place that you find a house or a homestead out west that is locked up. But no one's there. They're either gone to war or they got the pox or something. No one's there. And so you break in to stay there. It's like it's like a forest bedsit.

00;35;37;13 - 00;35;38;11
Sarah
Like a squat, A.

00;35;38;11 - 00;35;40;02
Mark
Squat that you need to stay at.

00;35;40;06 - 00;35;46;24
Sarah
No. Oh, a crowbar hotel is jail. Oh, that makes sense, doesn't it? You thought way too hard.

00;35;46;27 - 00;35;47;28
Mark
And way too hard.

00;35;48;01 - 00;35;48;14
Sarah
Yeah. You got.

00;35;48;14 - 00;35;49;25
Mark
To look at the whole scenario.

00;35;49;28 - 00;36;00;18
Sarah
Okay? You got to get your brain warm. You got to think like a cowboy. Okay, y'all. Y'all a slang winger slang way. What is a slang winger?

00;36;00;21 - 00;36;08;28
Mark
I'm going to say as slang winger is an Easterner trying to sound like a cowboy like me.

00;36;09;00 - 00;36;10;17
Sarah
You think you're a slang winger.

00;36;10;18 - 00;36;12;21
Mark
I'm a flying wire now.

00;36;12;21 - 00;36;14;24
Sarah
It's just a term for a noisy talker.

00;36;14;27 - 00;36;15;07
Mark
Okay?

00;36;15;07 - 00;36;18;29
Sarah
Somebody in the bar gets a little drunk, talks to loud slang.

00;36;19;02 - 00;36;20;01
Mark
Flanger.

00;36;20;03 - 00;36;27;13
Sarah
Man, you got that one wrong, too. I did. Maybe I'll give you an one. What do you think an alfalfa desperado is?

00;36;27;13 - 00;36;28;12
Mark
Alfalfa?

00;36;28;12 - 00;36;30;04
Sarah
Desperado, huh?

00;36;30;06 - 00;36;33;09
Mark
Someone who steals food?

00;36;33;11 - 00;36;38;17
Mark
No, that's too literal.

00;36;38;19 - 00;36;40;05
Sarah
Oh, it's a farmer.

00;36;40;07 - 00;36;44;01
Mark
Oh, okay. Alfalfa, Desperado.

00;36;44;03 - 00;36;49;21
Sarah
Okay, maybe I'll give you an even easier one. A bone orchard.

00;36;49;23 - 00;36;50;29
Mark
That would be a graveyard.

00;36;51;00 - 00;36;51;15
Sarah
Yes.

00;36;51;18 - 00;36;52;09
Mark
Okay.

00;36;52;10 - 00;36;53;15
Sarah
Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.

00;36;53;15 - 00;36;55;28
Mark
A guy got one.

00;36;56;00 - 00;36;57;20
Sarah
Well, how about Adams Ale?

00;36;57;20 - 00;37;03;03
Mark
Adams ale. Water. Yes, yes. Oh, yes, I'm on a roll.

00;37;03;05 - 00;37;04;10
Sarah
Why am I cheering for.

00;37;04;10 - 00;37;07;07
Mark
You and.

00;37;07;09 - 00;37;09;27
Sarah
What do you think it means to run against a pill?

00;37;10;00 - 00;37;14;01
Mark
Run against a pill? I don't know what happened.

00;37;14;01 - 00;37;16;04
Sarah
Oh, Bob, He ran against a pill.

00;37;16;04 - 00;37;17;00
Mark
Got poison.

00;37;17;02 - 00;37;17;25
Sarah
Got shot.

00;37;17;29 - 00;37;21;07
Mark
Shot? Oh, a pill. Like a bullet.

00;37;21;10 - 00;37;25;19
Sarah
A vaulting house. I like this one.

00;37;25;21 - 00;37;28;06
Mark
Would that be a house of repute? It is.

00;37;28;06 - 00;37;30;17
Sarah
It's a brothel.

00;37;30;19 - 00;37;34;01
Mark
Not I'm going to go over to the vault in house and do some vault.

00;37;34;08 - 00;37;36;18
Sarah
Is that supposed to make it sound classy?

00;37;36;18 - 00;37;40;17
Mark
I don't know. But how? Like that's going to get somebody hurt.

00;37;40;19 - 00;37;45;18
Sarah
What do you think? A lover is a loner singer? No. I want to take another guess.

00;37;45;21 - 00;37;46;13
Mark
Heavy breathing.

00;37;46;17 - 00;37;48;07
Sarah
Somebody with tuberculosis.

00;37;48;07 - 00;37;50;20
Mark
Oh, they got the TB.

00;37;50;22 - 00;37;52;04
Sarah
They didn't have that word then.

00;37;52;07 - 00;37;52;26
Mark
Oh.

00;37;52;29 - 00;37;57;26
Sarah
All right, I'm going to give you a couple more. Okay. What do you think it means to wear your best.

00;37;57;27 - 00;37;58;24
Mark
Wrong pants.

00;37;58;24 - 00;38;06;13
Sarah
Backwards? Okay. Think again. Let me coach you a little bit. You know what a bustle is, right? Yeah.

00;38;06;15 - 00;38;10;01
Mark
Oh, your your gun belt is on backwards.

00;38;10;03 - 00;38;10;22
Sarah
No.

00;38;10;24 - 00;38;11;13
Mark
Okay.

00;38;11;16 - 00;38;19;24
Sarah
There were more than men in the Wild West who wears a bustle, a woman. And if they're wearing it wrong, what's the bustle like?

00;38;19;27 - 00;38;22;24
Mark
It's the thing that goes over your butt.

00;38;22;26 - 00;38;26;11
Sarah
Right? It makes it look big, right? Yeah. So if you're wearing it wrong.

00;38;26;14 - 00;38;28;24
Mark
You're a fat lady who bustles out.

00;38;28;24 - 00;38;30;15
Sarah
Front, which would mean.

00;38;30;19 - 00;38;31;19
Mark
You're pregnant. Yeah.

00;38;31;26 - 00;38;35;06
Sarah
Oh, I'm not kidding. That went to you. Wow.

00;38;35;07 - 00;38;36;05
Mark
I got that one.

00;38;36;09 - 00;38;39;04
Sarah
Notice you change. I'll give you one more.

00;38;39;08 - 00;38;40;03
Mark
All right.

00;38;40;05 - 00;38;44;25
Sarah
What do you think this phrase means? Okay. Five beans in the wheel.

00;38;44;27 - 00;38;50;29
Mark
Five being at the wheel. Well, we got five fingers. We got five toes. Five toes. Get run.

00;38;50;29 - 00;39;02;11
Sarah
Over. No, man, you would never survive in the Wild West. I'll give you a hint. Okay? Okay. Five is one less than six.

00;39;02;13 - 00;39;04;05
Mark
And it's one more than four.

00;39;04;05 - 00;39;07;01
Sarah
Why would six be important in the wild?

00;39;07;01 - 00;39;08;16
Mark
106 Sure.

00;39;08;21 - 00;39;09;06
Sarah
Yes.

00;39;09;06 - 00;39;12;04
Mark
So five beans in the wheel means you've taken the shot.

00;39;12;04 - 00;39;26;01
Sarah
It means that you've left one part of the pistol unloaded, one part, one cartridge unloaded for safety. Oh, right. So the the cartridge, the the part of the revolver that is next to the trigger is empty.

00;39;26;03 - 00;39;28;00
Mark
So you don't shoot yourself accidentally.

00;39;28;00 - 00;39;29;08
Sarah
Yeah. One of the you.

00;39;29;12 - 00;39;31;15
Mark
Over a trampoline or.

00;39;31;17 - 00;39;46;03
Sarah
You leave a chamber empty so you don't accidentally shoot somebody when you're going to the vault and house after drink and a bunch of Adams ale. And you don't accidentally run against a pill. No, you're flying winger.

00;39;46;05 - 00;39;49;05
Mark
I am clearly not a slang whiner.

00;39;49;07 - 00;39;51;12
Sarah
I'll give you one more bonus. Okay. I love this.

00;39;51;18 - 00;39;53;09
Mark
Promotion. It's a bonus.

00;39;53;09 - 00;39;54;09
Sarah
Okay. We're at Camp.

00;39;54;14 - 00;39;55;00
Mark
Oak.

00;39;55;02 - 00;39;56;25
Sarah
And we're around the campfire night.

00;39;56;25 - 00;39;57;22
Mark
Around the campfire.

00;39;57;22 - 00;40;07;12
Sarah
A long day of Rathlin or whatever we've time. I think you asked the camp cook if he's got any mysteries tonight. What are you asking for?

00;40;07;14 - 00;40;18;25
Mark
Cans that don't have labels.

00;40;18;28 - 00;40;21;12
Sarah
Okay, I guess I see your logic.

00;40;21;17 - 00;40;25;00
Mark
Mystery.

00;40;25;02 - 00;40;35;22
Sarah
Remember back then, they just printed right on the can. Yeah. So you have to rub the canned real hard to rub the pain of. If you want to guess again.

00;40;35;25 - 00;40;38;11
Mark
For some reason, I keep thinking sausages.

00;40;38;11 - 00;40;40;26
Sarah
Yes. Oh, that's what they are.

00;40;40;27 - 00;40;41;13
Mark
There we go.

00;40;41;13 - 00;40;45;08
Sarah
I'll even give you that one.

00;40;45;11 - 00;40;51;26
Mark
So marks or bull riding cowboy slang quiz.

00;40;51;29 - 00;40;56;02
Sarah
Yeah. You kind of chewed gravel on that. That's slang for falling off a horse.

00;40;56;02 - 00;40;57;01
Mark
I did indeed.

00;40;57;09 - 00;41;08;05
Sarah
Chewed gravel. Meanwhile, Murdock has a lasso in the air. Yes, he does a great job of getting right around the middle. Yep. My terror is that he would have accidentally caught him by the head.

00;41;08;12 - 00;41;11;20
Mark
Yeah, there's a nice cut there. Where were.

00;41;11;22 - 00;41;11;27
Sarah
He.

00;41;11;27 - 00;41;16;22
Mark
Throws it. Not shown who does that. And in Texas.

00;41;16;22 - 00;41;29;19
Sarah
Imagine if it hadn't gone down over his arms and his torso and it just grabbed his neck. Yeah, it broke his neck easy. But now Murdock can say he rode wild. Bill's horse. Yes. The prettiest horse in town.

00;41;29;19 - 00;41;30;23
Mark
It's Purdy.

00;41;30;23 - 00;41;31;28
Sarah
Is so silver.

00;41;32;02 - 00;41;36;21
Mark
No.

00;41;36;24 - 00;41;42;02
Sarah
George does the word world's worst. I test on wild Bill.

00;41;42;05 - 00;41;43;20
Mark
So the man.

00;41;43;25 - 00;41;47;28
Sarah
Says, Look over there. I think somebody is trying to give you a message.

00;41;48;00 - 00;41;50;25
Mark
What a what does the sign say?

00;41;50;27 - 00;42;07;04
Sarah
It says, I'm holding this this sign 50 feet, 50 yards away, which is the same distance of what? I mean, it's like a paragraph. Yeah, I've got a picture of it. He just happens to have a big piece of poster board to paint it on or whatever. He can't see it.

00;42;07;07 - 00;42;10;20
Mark
So now Brackenbury goes and sees and.

00;42;10;23 - 00;42;11;16
Sarah
Mm hmm.

00;42;11;19 - 00;42;15;12
Mark
And falls off the wagon. Get it? Wagon.

00;42;15;16 - 00;42;21;15
Sarah
I get it. Cause some drunken lout got his hands on a rifle last night. Yeah, it was your boss.

00;42;21;18 - 00;42;24;09
Mark
Aren't fruity, are you? Wow.

00;42;24;12 - 00;42;26;29
Sarah
Well, she says his accent. Queer. Yeah.

00;42;27;02 - 00;42;30;03
Mark
Wait a minute, Sherlock. You're holding that wrong. Yeah.

00;42;30;05 - 00;42;54;00
Sarah
I would think that Bracken Reed, if he wasn't tanked, would be a pretty good shot. He's been in the military. He's been to war. I mean, not Annie Oakley level trick shot, but a pretty good shot, I'd say. I don't. He doesn't kiss or anything. I don't think anything bad happens here. No, but he is promising Margaret. He's not drinking and he's clearly drinking.

00;42;54;00 - 00;42;54;18
Mark
Yes.

00;42;54;22 - 00;42;59;26
Sarah
And then he blames Murdoch for it to Margaret and gets Murdoch in trouble.

00;43;00;05 - 00;43;02;14
Mark
Margaret clearly has Murdoch's number.

00;43;02;17 - 00;43;03;09
Mark
Yeah.

00;43;03;12 - 00;43;24;08
Sarah
So I'm very disappointed in you, Which is the worst thing a mom can say to anybody, especially Murdoch. It could be a total stranger and if a mom says I'm very disappointed and, you know, that's a bad day for anybody, it's like, I didn't know anything. But he's Murdoch's a good friend. He's like, I'm real sorry, you know?

00;43;24;08 - 00;43;26;28
Sarah
Yeah, he he totally throws himself under the bus.

00;43;26;28 - 00;43;28;18
Mark
Yeah. Takes care of business.

00;43;28;24 - 00;43;29;21
Sarah
It can roll over me.

00;43;29;21 - 00;43;31;22
Mark
It's okay. So there's the second murder here.

00;43;31;24 - 00;43;33;26
Sarah
I'm kind of late, too.

00;43;33;27 - 00;43;34;20
Mark
Yeah.

00;43;34;22 - 00;43;40;06
Sarah
So, Wilcox, who is Charles's friend? Yeah. Get shot in his tent.

00;43;40;10 - 00;43;46;27
Mark
Also get shot. And there's a whole bunch of sort of reenactments trying to figure out how he gets shot. The way he gets shot?

00;43;47;00 - 00;44;08;27
Sarah
Mm hmm. Now that then there's a slide mark on the ground. Yeah, because luckily, these tents have, like, plywood floors or so I wouldn't it just be dirt and grass, which you can't slide a gun on unless. The grass is like dewy or something and it wouldn't leave a mark like that. But luckily it's like plywood with sawdust on top of it.

00;44;08;27 - 00;44;13;05
Sarah
So it leaves a perfect track that nobody has walked through yet.

00;44;13;05 - 00;44;17;28
Mark
If only we had sticky tape with the dispenser and household adhesives.

00;44;17;29 - 00;44;21;22
Sarah
I think this whole camp would be knee deep and gun shells anyway.

00;44;21;25 - 00;44;24;18
Mark
And poop.

00;44;24;20 - 00;44;26;09
Sarah
But probably not in the tent.

00;44;26;14 - 00;44;29;23
Mark
No, I don't think there would be poop in the tent.

00;44;29;25 - 00;44;33;15
Sarah
But yes, but you're talking about animal, right? Yeah.

00;44;33;18 - 00;44;34;25
Mark
Okay.

00;44;34;27 - 00;44;35;28
Sarah
Well, let's be specific.

00;44;35;28 - 00;44;41;18
Mark
And then and then back. It reads like, let's go to the armory, like everybody has guns in this episode.

00;44;41;19 - 00;44;50;11
Sarah
Well, Murdoch says, I think we're going to have to open the armory. Yeah. So that so that two of them. So that George and Brock and Reed can get.

00;44;50;14 - 00;44;53;16
Mark
Well they know that the killer shoots people. Yeah. So.

00;44;53;22 - 00;44;55;11
Sarah
But Murdoch doesn't get a gun.

00;44;55;12 - 00;44;59;14
Mark
Well, no, because he's Murdoch he has the power to talk.

00;44;59;21 - 00;45;08;13
Sarah
They get the telegram from the Rio Grand marshal. Yes, Harry, The gun Boler and one tooth Ackerson.

00;45;08;20 - 00;45;12;20
Mark
Yep. Are not who they seem, but that doesn't mean they should be dead.

00;45;12;23 - 00;45;16;19
Sarah
Harry. The gun is the worst Wild West nickname.

00;45;16;22 - 00;45;18;08
Mark
George The hat.

00;45;18;10 - 00;45;21;13
Sarah
He it's like Bill the guy who rides a horse.

00;45;21;13 - 00;45;27;14
Mark
MURDOCK The rope back and read the left back.

00;45;27;19 - 00;45;28;19
Sarah
BRACKEN Read the bottle.

00;45;28;24 - 00;45;29;09
Mark
Yes.

00;45;29;09 - 00;45;45;14
Sarah
Yeah, they they call somebody a saddle tramp. Yeah, Like, that's a bad name for somebody. Yeah. Saddle tramp. Crabtree, cover is Murdoch's office in these pieces.

00;45;45;16 - 00;45;48;05
Mark
They're everywhere.

00;45;48;07 - 00;45;51;18
Mark
Again. They. They pushed the jokes in this outfit.

00;45;51;18 - 00;46;11;14
Sarah
Yes. I mean, they're like between the windows, across the windows, the chalkboards covered. They're everywhere. Like George has been in this episode. We've seen him in other places. He wasn't just there rolling glue on every surface of the entire camp, the whole.

00;46;11;16 - 00;46;14;14
Mark
But of course, superpower. Murdoch looks at all these pieces of.

00;46;14;14 - 00;46;15;14
Sarah
Paper and finds one.

00;46;15;14 - 00;46;17;01
Mark
They're the right one.

00;46;17;09 - 00;46;25;01
Sarah
Instantly, I thought there'd be a map where George had numbered each page and numbered where he picked it up.

00;46;25;03 - 00;46;26;19
Mark
He probably should have it.

00;46;26;22 - 00;46;37;29
Sarah
Well, he tells him to number of them by location and maybe Murdoch looked at that and we just didn't see it. And he knew that this one at eye level on the chalkboard right here has one hair on it.

00;46;38;02 - 00;46;42;00
Mark
And they put it all together and it ends up Theodore Chester Joel.

00;46;42;04 - 00;46;49;00
Sarah
Well, only two people touch that horse. Yeah, well, three Murdoch, B while Bill and Theodore.

00;46;49;01 - 00;46;50;26
Mark
We know Bill couldn't shoot that far.

00;46;50;28 - 00;46;51;10
Sarah
Right.

00;46;51;12 - 00;46;52;21
Mark
You need to get his glasses out.

00;46;52;21 - 00;46;53;29
Sarah
And Murdoch didn't do it.

00;46;54;06 - 00;46;57;03
Mark
And plus, Bill was in front of them.

00;46;57;05 - 00;47;00;03
Sarah
Yes, there is that. But who was looking at him?

00;47;00;03 - 00;47;00;18
Mark
Nobody.

00;47;00;25 - 00;47;23;12
Sarah
Everybody was enthralled by Jaws. So it must have been Theo. And actually, the story about why Theo did is really sad. Yeah, the railroad wanted his dad's land, probably to put the railroad through. He wouldn't sell. So the railroad sent these two desperado jerk faces, the gun and one tooth, and they shot him in the back.

00;47;23;17 - 00;47;40;18
Mark
Yeah. And robber barons were certainly will. And there was a lot of stuff that happened in the Old West Times that was not good. And this is a good example of how to deal with it. But it is a incredibly bad example of an inciting incident.

00;47;40;21 - 00;47;42;29
Sarah
Yeah, because we couldn't possibly know it.

00;47;43;06 - 00;47;47;13
Mark
Why on earth could he have not killed them six months before?

00;47;47;20 - 00;47;48;09
Sarah
Yeah.

00;47;48;11 - 00;47;49;06
Mark
A year before.

00;47;49;06 - 00;47;50;20
Sarah
As soon as they joined by.

00;47;50;20 - 00;47;51;18
Mark
Five years before.

00;47;51;24 - 00;47;53;28
Sarah
Well, as soon as they dry on a wild belt.

00;47;53;28 - 00;47;59;28
Mark
So soon as he figured it out. Yeah, but no, he had to seethe and wait until he was killed.

00;48;00;07 - 00;48;05;17
Sarah
I guess maybe there was some evidence he was waiting for.

00;48;05;18 - 00;48;10;16
Mark
Even a line that said I waited until I got across the border so I could escape.

00;48;10;16 - 00;48;23;12
Sarah
Yeah, like even that. Or I thought it was them. And then George got drunk and called the other guy. That gun, by accident and or for fun. And they called him one to solve the problem. So something like.

00;48;23;12 - 00;48;26;10
Mark
That. There's no reason to have him kill the first guy.

00;48;26;17 - 00;48;32;14
Sarah
Just poor Theodore. Yeah, he seems genuinely sad. And he's good at taking care of a horse.

00;48;32;14 - 00;48;39;17
Mark
Apparently. Yes. Unfortunately, he's also a murderer. Even though Murdoch says stop or I'll say stop again and he stops.

00;48;39;23 - 00;48;41;21
Sarah
Then my favorite scene in the.

00;48;41;23 - 00;48;44;28
Mark
Seventh scene of the episode.

00;48;44;28 - 00;48;56;20
Sarah
Murdoch is standing there. The camera's panning. It's zooming in on him. There's a painted backdrop of the Wild West behind the lone gunman. You hear George narrating.

00;48;56;20 - 00;48;57;07
Mark
This is.

00;48;57;13 - 00;48;59;22
Sarah
You know, he didn't even have a nightstick.

00;48;59;25 - 00;49;04;05
Mark
There is this is the beginning of George as a writer.

00;49;04;10 - 00;49;05;03
Sarah
Yes.

00;49;05;05 - 00;49;05;15
Mark
Yeah.

00;49;05;17 - 00;49;09;08
Sarah
And then he turns and all the constables are standing there giggling.

00;49;09;14 - 00;49;13;12
Mark
Did you see what, what the constables are standing, standing in front of.

00;49;13;13 - 00;49;14;14
Sarah
Some kind of game.

00;49;14;15 - 00;49;15;19
Mark
It's a wall of circles.

00;49;15;23 - 00;49;21;05
Sarah
Yeah. It's a wild horse. Which I'm guessing you're supposed to throw something through. The smaller ones are worth more points or something.

00;49;21;06 - 00;49;26;00
Mark
Maybe that's quite enough, George. That's again.

00;49;26;06 - 00;49;26;23
Sarah
In my eyes.

00;49;26;25 - 00;49;29;23
Mark
So, yeah, he's smiling.

00;49;29;23 - 00;49;30;21
Sarah
Yeah. All right.

00;49;30;22 - 00;49;33;20
Mark
And it's an ending that doesn't involve Murdoch and Julia.

00;49;33;26 - 00;49;38;22
Sarah
No, they can't all be like, Ha, we love each other, but we're not saying anything.

00;49;38;24 - 00;49;57;14
Mark
Well, I think and this is somewhat spoilers, we're going to get hot and heavy into Julia and Murdoch Brain moves. Ooh, hot and heavy. Yes. And I think they knew that that was going to happen later on. And they know the end of this season. So they're like, no nookie. Nookie until we get to.

00;49;57;14 - 00;49;58;11
Mark
There.

00;49;58;14 - 00;50;01;20
Mark
Because Julia may as well be a man in this episode.

00;50;01;24 - 00;50;03;05
Sarah
She's part of the team.

00;50;03;05 - 00;50;04;18
Mark
There's no flirting.

00;50;04;23 - 00;50;05;05
Sarah
No.

00;50;05;10 - 00;50;06;23
Mark
In the.

00;50;06;25 - 00;50;14;12
Sarah
Might as well be a man. What a man react the way she does to somebody stealing the person's head. I don't think so.

00;50;14;17 - 00;50;15;29
Mark
Some barman stole his.

00;50;15;29 - 00;50;17;20
Mark
Head.

00;50;17;23 - 00;50;28;19
Sarah
Some slang. Wanger just went and stole his jug, made a big old mess of mob bone house. It's got body juices everywhere.

00;50;28;22 - 00;50;30;04
Mark
Oh, fair. What are you.

00;50;30;04 - 00;50;32;19
Mark
Doing?

00;50;32;21 - 00;50;43;27
Sarah
What's in the bag? Bubble fat important drops the bag as soon as they start chasing him. I just imagine the head rolling out of the bag like that would distract everybody.

00;50;43;27 - 00;50;47;24
Mark
I was like. I was like. So he's got, like.

00;50;47;26 - 00;50;49;12
Sarah
A bag on my shoulder. Yeah.

00;50;49;13 - 00;50;52;13
Mark
And then he has, like, a case. Yeah. Like, I'm like.

00;50;52;13 - 00;50;54;13
Mark
Worst I heard. Yeah.

00;50;54;15 - 00;50;59;12
Sarah
Is that in the suitcase or is it in the sack? And where's his guns? He would have guns.

00;50;59;17 - 00;51;00;05
Mark
He would.

00;51;00;05 - 00;51;12;14
Sarah
And long guns. Yeah, but no on the feds got the head in the bag. It should be bloody, the bag should be bloodstained or like one. I should be poking out of a hole. You should just see like a glint of his teeth.

00;51;12;17 - 00;51;15;10
Mark
Before he goes to the bone. Boneyard?

00;51;15;13 - 00;51;20;07
Sarah
No, the bone tortured best corpse. Jaws are Wilcox.

00;51;20;10 - 00;51;24;17
Mark
I'm going to say jaws, because I think Wilcox moves.

00;51;24;22 - 00;51;28;13
Sarah
He dies on the slab, He winks.

00;51;28;16 - 00;51;29;23
Mark
Out. We've.

00;51;29;25 - 00;51;31;27
Sarah
We've got a screenshot of my point.

00;51;31;27 - 00;51;34;25
Mark
Where it's like I wink like this. I'm the world's worst way.

00;51;35;02 - 00;51;46;00
Sarah
No, because he doesn't twist his whole body and tip his head just to move one eye like you do when you wink at somebody. His eye opens and closes really quickly.

00;51;46;04 - 00;51;47;12
Mark
Okay.

00;51;47;14 - 00;52;02;23
Sarah
And we've got a screenshot of the moment when it happened. So if you go to that point, you'll be able to see it. Yeah. So I'm with you. I'm going. I go for Jaws. He and plus he's got that yucky gold teeth, but he's done prosthetic in his mouth. To me.

00;52;02;29 - 00;52;04;22
Mark
That's, that's a good prosthetic.

00;52;04;22 - 00;52;09;06
Sarah
He's got to lay there while he'll enjoy, like, plays with his lips.

00;52;09;06 - 00;52;11;14
Mark
Like, you know, like. Yeah.

00;52;11;16 - 00;52;15;20
Mark
By the way, that's the star of the episode.

00;52;15;22 - 00;52;19;06
Sarah
That's pretty good. Corpse acting. Yeah. All right. After the credits.

00;52;19;08 - 00;52;22;16
Mark
Did you know Jaws his real name? Bill Yack.

00;52;22;18 - 00;52;24;06
Sarah
Yeah, that's right.

00;52;24;08 - 00;52;36;06
Mark
Okay. After the credits, we have John Warden or Cowboy Boba Fett. Mm hmm. So he's going to go and continue to be John Warden. I don't think he's going to get in trouble.

00;52;36;07 - 00;52;37;08
Sarah
For stealing the head.

00;52;37;10 - 00;52;38;24
Mark
I don't think so.

00;52;38;26 - 00;52;41;22
Sarah
It's small potatoes compared to everything else they've got going on.

00;52;41;22 - 00;52;44;03
Mark
Annie Oakley. He's going to shoot and drink more.

00;52;44;10 - 00;52;50;07
Sarah
Well, Buffalo Bill's show is just going to keep going. Yeah, right. So everybody involved with that is going to keep going. Margaret is going to.

00;52;50;13 - 00;52;52;03
Mark
Get a lot more fun.

00;52;52;05 - 00;52;54;13
Sarah
Yeah, she's going to loosen up, be more.

00;52;54;16 - 00;52;56;19
Mark
Is going to get the news, I would think.

00;52;56;21 - 00;53;00;13
Sarah
Yeah. I don't know how he doesn't. He killed two people in cold blood.

00;53;00;15 - 00;53;01;10
Mark
Yeah, he.

00;53;01;10 - 00;53;18;17
Sarah
Did. That's newsworthy. I don't know how old he's supposed to be. I think maybe 17. Maybe he might get some mercy and get life or something. Amy, because he's. I don't think he's a danger to anybody else. He might be able to make an argument, but. Yeah, and the show goes on.

00;53;18;22 - 00;53;21;07
Mark
Yes. Speaking of the show, you can.

00;53;21;07 - 00;53;30;14
Sarah
Find well, wait a minute, our next episode and guys, season one, Season two, Episode two Snakes and Ladders.

00;53;30;15 - 00;53;35;17
Mark
Yep. The day before Independence Day seven, three Snakes and ladders. It is.

00;53;35;18 - 00;53;37;02
Sarah
Jack the Ripper.

00;53;37;02 - 00;53;40;01
Mark
Is fantastic episode.

00;53;40;02 - 00;53;46;08
Sarah
Not some knock off Italian Jack Ripper in the text of a newspaper. This is like big time.

00;53;46;08 - 00;53;49;12
Mark
It's got Jack the Ripper. It's got board game.

00;53;49;12 - 00;53;50;06
Sarah
Yes.

00;53;50;08 - 00;53;58;23
Mark
It's got the invention of black light. Yes, it's got carriages and stories and the like.

00;53;58;27 - 00;54;00;21
Sarah
And it's a really fun one.

00;54;00;22 - 00;54;02;11
Mark
It's a super good episode.

00;54;02;11 - 00;54;04;11
Sarah
Yes. You can find us everywhere.

00;54;04;17 - 00;54;29;03
Mark
Yes. And I got I got to say, you guys are awesome and we love you. And we just want to remind you to take the time to follow us on all these places. It helps new people find us. If you do a review on Apple Podcasts, it helps new people find us. So our sponsors and like us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, all those good things.

00;54;29;09 - 00;54;37;18
Mark
Same thing in Spotify, right? A review. Just we love everything that you say. Thank you very much. It just helps us.

00;54;37;20 - 00;54;39;15
Sarah
We just want more people to join the fun.

00;54;39;15 - 00;54;46;07
Mark
Just want more people join the fun because then we're going to have a trivia night and it's going to be spectacular. Oh, yeah.

00;54;46;09 - 00;54;47;17
Sarah
Oh, baby nerds.

00;54;47;17 - 00;54;49;11
Mark
Ahoy, nerds. Ahoy!

00;54;49;12 - 00;54;51;02
Sarah
All right, Until next time.

00;54;51;02 - 00;54;52;09
Mark
By Maniac.

00;54;52;09 - 00;54;56;27
Sarah
By me.

00;54;56;29 - 00;55;07;08
Mark
Is a good.

00;55;07;11 - 00;55;16;00
Sarah
Way. And I say, Hey, what's his name? Why do you have to edit this out? What do you call the cook? Cook? They had a nickname for Cut. I don't know.

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