Nerd Mike & Porno Hughes | Brokenwood | "Dead and Buried" | Mystery Maniacs Podcast EP236
It's an awful looking sun. It's like. Hey, maniacs.
Mark:Hey, mystery maniacs.
Sarah:Hey, do I sound different? No. Why? Because I'm 50 now.
Mark:Sarah had a birthday yesterday.
Sarah:May. It's official, I'm over the hill.
Mark:No you're not. I wasn't like this when I turned 50. A decade ago.
Sarah:Because dudes get better as they get older. That's how it works. Mystery Maniacs is a comedy recap podcast of Mystery TV. Each week we pick an episode of a show and talk about the loonies, the mayhem, the murder, and everything else we love. I'm Sarah.
Mark:And I'm Mark. And this week we're covering Brokenwood Mysteries Dead and Buried season six episode four. The last season with only four episodes.
Sarah:Yeah.
Mark:All the rest of the seasons have six episodes.
Sarah:And it's the return of Trudy.
Mark:The return of Trudy after three years. So this is a spoiler podcast. We're gonna talk about who did it and when and all that good stuff. We have lots to talk about. And if you let your kids go visit the women's prison to see the passion play, they can listen to the podcast.
Sarah:That's probably pretty accurate. Yeah. Before we dive in
Mark:Oh my gosh.
Sarah:There's some exciting TV stuff going So
Mark:much to talk about. First of all, Agatha has been AI'd.
Sarah:Agatha Christie has been AI'd by the BBC and And the Christie estate.
Mark:The Christie estate. They have launched a educational program on their platform for education called Maestro. It's about how to write mysteries.
Sarah:But it's taught by AI Agatha Christie.
Mark:And it's so there's an actress and that actress must have had a green screen mask on and then they put Agatha Christie's face on her.
Sarah:But they generated the content based on all the things that Christie said about writing during her lifetime.
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:I nah.
Mark:If this is not prohibitively expensive, I think I may take this just to see how weird it is.
Sarah:You know, I was thinking about this the other day and take or leave AI, people have strong opinions about it, whatever. But I was thinking about this the other day, stuff like this kind of like, it kind of creeps me out, puts me off. It's like, okay, that's too far even for me and I'm kind of into AI stuff. But then I was thinking, you know, there are so many shows that we really like the first season of and there was never another season. And if you could just hit a button and it would generate a second season of that
Mark:show No.
Sarah:I might give it a shot.
Mark:No. No. I'm sorry. No.
Sarah:If it was if it worked, if it was well done, I might give it a shot.
Mark:No. It's not creating anything new. I'm sorry. It's all derivative.
Sarah:I know.
Mark:Which makes an education course make sense.
Sarah:Yeah. Because it's not novel content. Right?
Mark:I am okay with this because the estate is involved. Okay?
Sarah:Yeah.
Mark:If the estate was not involved, I would not be
Sarah:It wouldn't be happening.
Mark:I am definitely not okay with this with anybody who's living.
Sarah:Oh, so they can't do it with Stephen King?
Sarah:No. No. Nobody wants AI Stephen He's
Sarah:strange enough looking as it is.
Mark:AI Stephen King is right out. In other news But I think it's interesting.
Sarah:There's a couple of shows that are coming out in the next month that we are super excited about. The first one is department q. It's on Netflix. It's coming out at the May. Department q is based on a series of books by UC Adler Olsen with the detective Karl Molk.
Sarah:They're Scandinavian, the books are, but the TV show is set in in The UK.
Mark:Starring Matthew Good.
Sarah:And I'm super excited. Now they did do like made for TV kind of movies of the books. Yes. Actually set
Mark:in Which are really good. Books are fantastic.
Sarah:They're so good. They're they're not cozies but the characters are so fun and
Mark:The plots are so intricate.
Sarah:Yeah. But they do have dark kind of intricate plots. I mean, they're Scandinavian. But they're not heavy noir. They do have a sense of humor.
Sarah:Yes. And the other show we're excited about that's coming out in the next month is Art Detective. And that's coming out the June on Acorn.
Mark:And on Netflix. Moore stars it.
Sarah:Who was the vampire in the oh, what is it? Blood Again or
Mark:No. Twice the HBO vampire
Sarah:Southern vampire Yeah. Whatever that is called, people will know what we're talking about or they won't. And it's about an art detective who gets kinda stuck solving more major True Blood. True Blood. That was it.
Sarah:He was the vampire in True Blood. So it looks it looks super good. We also learned recently that they're remaking Bergerac.
Mark:No. They've remade it. Season one's already out.
Sarah:Oh, it's already out.
Mark:But we don't have season one and they've renewed it for season
Sarah:And Shakespeare and Hathaway season five is in production right now.
Mark:Yes. It was cancelled, but then it has been renewed. It's come back from the dead. And I hope they make lots of jokes about that. But this is not the biggest piece of midsummer news we got this week, which was a familiar face will be playing Barnaby on stage.
Sarah:Yeah, Daniel Casey.
Mark:Yeah. So what do you think
Sarah:about And stage play. Oh, think it's gonna be great.
Mark:I think it's exactly what they needed.
Sarah:Yeah.
Mark:I don't know He'll be a great draw. Do the audience participation things that we suggest.
Sarah:Should we write them and say, okay, we've got an idea. Have you seen Rocky Horror? It's kinda like that. Again,
Mark:if you are going to go see this in The UK, we want you. We need, we've had offers of course.
Sarah:We already got a few people who bought tickets already.
Mark:They bought tickets already. If you're willing to come on the show, we're willing to have you and talk about
Sarah:what
Sarah:you
Mark:We
Sarah:want to hear
Sarah:all about it.
Mark:Absolutely. We want to hear every single thing about it.
Sarah:Did you have to wear a pawn show?
Mark:And if you wear your maniac shirt, extra points.
Sarah:To the show? Yep.
Sarah:If you wear one that you already have, we'll send you another one. How about that? Of your choice. Yeah. Oh, I forgot to tell you.
Sarah:So now that this semester has wound down, I have a little bit of breathing room. And one of the things I've been doing when I have a little bit of time at work while I'm waiting for a meeting or something is I'm working on a new two new designs.
Mark:Okay.
Sarah:Excellent. For t shirts, broken wood ones. One is a lineup of Mike and Sims and Breen and the other sergeant, the other detective constable. What's his name? The new one.
Mark:I don't know.
Sarah:Anyway, standing next to each other, and they're just generic figures, but they look like them. It's hard to describe. They don't have facial features. It's like that. And the other one is Frodo leaning out his truck, and it has all the things that like Frodo dog crossed out, ice cream Frodo ice cream crossed out.
Sarah:And now because of season eleven, one of the things that they've been doing is putting funny messages on the front of the truck.
Mark:If you are not watching the front of Frodo's truck, you are missing out.
Sarah:You're missing out. So I'm gonna add those to it too. So hopefully by the end of the month, I'll have those up on the shop and people can grab them
Mark:as
Sarah:sticker or
Mark:a t shirt. And that also reminds us that we're doing minis for season eleven. Yes. Including one we released last week called My Dear Sweet Frodo. And there's a reason it's fro dough.
Sarah:Oh, thought you like hiccuped in the middle. Was getting ready to say do want to do that one again? No. But that's what you meant.
Mark:My dear sweet fro dough. Dough. And They've been
Sarah:hitting it out of the park with season eleven.
Mark:Yep. And this week's episode is entitled, strangely enough, whatever happened to ginger ranger. Yeah. And that'll be released today so you'll have it in your queue already.
Sarah:If you're listening to this, it's already out.
Mark:Yes. Alright. And there's three more episodes including the Odes family reunion or something. Oh, it's gonna be so good.
Sarah:And then last, before we dive in, I just have to mention this. So one of our longtime listeners, Miriam, emailed us to say that her four year old nephew Yep. Listened to our episode with her where I mentioned Bobbert.
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:And apparently, he got quite into saying Bobbert, and she sent us a little video of him saying Bobbert, Bobbert, Bobbert, Bobbert.
Mark:It's very cute. I played it for Mo Yep.
Sarah:Who is my co co Bobbert conspirator here in the house. We were laughing. There were many high fives. We were like, one more infected with the Bobbert. Thank you so much for sharing it with us.
Sarah:It
Sarah:was so cute.
Sarah:Had toast using toast.
Mark:Okay. Original air date, the 12/01/2019, written by Katie Wolf. This is definitely a women's story and a women's point of view. How would you know? Because it deals with things that are
Sarah:women. I agree. I was just poking at you.
Sarah:And Like, would you know it if you saw it?
Sarah:How would you recognize it?
Mark:Written by Tim Baum. The first thing I want to talk about is this prison needs a new sign. Because wow, the piece of cardboard they have printed on, stick it on the side of the road is not good enough.
Sarah:Let's just talk about the fact that it's Brokenwood Women's Prison. Okay? This should not exist. Brokenwood is
Mark:None of these people should be here.
Sarah:Okay. Wait though. Brokenwood is a little place. That's the whole point. Right?
Sarah:Yes. Mike went from the big smoke to the little town.
Mark:It's three hours away and it makes your hair go a different way.
Sarah:And decided to stay there. So I was like, is this is this actually a jail? Like, we have federal prisons and state prisons in The United States. And county prisons. And well we have county jails.
Mark:County jails. Right. Sorry.
Sarah:And they're different sizes. Right? But if you are a murderer, you are in federal prison. Yes. More than likely.
Sarah:But in New Zealand, all of New Zealand, both islands, there are three women's prisons.
Mark:Three? Okay so Brokenwood No,
Sarah:no, Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch and between Which
Mark:are the three largest cities.
Sarah:Between the three of them in March of twenty twenty five, how many women do you think were in prison in New Zealand? Three prisons.
Mark:Let's go four and fifty, a 50 each.
Sarah:781.
Mark:That's fantastic. It's so small. I think that's
Sarah:And this prison in Brokenwood though we only meet six inmates probably has 50
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:By the size of it. Yes. I think they try to excuse it by saying it's a privately run prison. I don't know what that's supposed to mean Because New Zealand doesn't have the equivalent of state and federal prisons. It's just federal.
Sarah:Yeah. It's all federal.
Mark:When you have a centralized government who works efficiently, what do you know?
Sarah:What do you know?
Mark:What do you know?
Sarah:This superintendent with her four inch heels. Yes, Angela. Angela Lafferty. I'm all about like rehabilitation and treating people like people and not like just the crime. Yeah.
Sarah:But she's a little much. Like I'm sure any prison superintendent probably gets more than their fair steps in during the day. Can you really do it in four inch heels all day? Would you want to?
Mark:I I don't know. And what does she do all day with six people in the
Sarah:We have to assume there are others.
Mark:I got it. So so her office is an oasis.
Sarah:Yeah. It's something.
Mark:So I don't know if I've ever told you this story before but when I was, I probably was 14, 15. Because it was before I was working on a regular basis and I was doing a lot of odd jobs Mhmm. In the summer to get money to do stuff. And this couple up at the lake asked me if I'm a little
Sarah:worried about where this is going. They
Mark:asked me if I could go home with them for a week Oh, this is worse. Paint the outside of their house.
Sarah:And your parents said, yes he can. Yes. They sent you on your way, right?
Mark:Of course they did.
Sarah:We've never met you. We don't know you or where you live or your phone number No, they but please take our child because that's what your parents
Mark:were They had a permanent campsite up the lake.
Sarah:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Mark:But this is long like
Sarah:But they only knew their lake personas. Yeah. They had no idea what they were like back home.
Mark:So their entire living room had these Hawaiian pictures, floor to ceiling Like wallpaper or
Sarah:wallpaper. Okay.
Mark:On every wall of their living room. With a tiki bar. Wow. And like the little beaded curtains between every room. Did you stay with them?
Mark:I stayed with them. Thank goodness I brought a lot of books because after I was done painting and ate every day, I went to my room and read. At least you had a room.
Sarah:They didn't make you sleep in the Hawaii room.
Mark:No. No. But it was
Sarah:You can't have a mural wallpaper like that, like one of those photo murals. You can't have that on more than one wall.
Mark:They had it on every it was just so weird. And they drank out of tiki cups every night and oh.
Sarah:You know what? They had their thing. They weren't hurting anybody. They weren't happy.
Mark:It was it was just so not Carl and Matata. But
Sarah:that's alright. Yes. It could have been a lot worse.
Mark:They could
Sarah:have had one of those conversation pits in their living room.
Mark:Oh my gosh.
Sarah:So Corina Doyle
Sarah:is dead. Dead.
Sarah:Bloody. And surrounded by people who Mike has put into prison.
Mark:Well three people who Mike has put into prison.
Sarah:Trudy, Raylene and Miss White. Yes. So Trudy Brenda.
Mark:Is Ray's sister, still in the
Sarah:show. She who poisoned her neighbor with honey and then strung him up like a scarecrow.
Mark:Incredibly relevant in series 11.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:Raelene killed the
Sarah:country singer. Favorite musician.
Mark:Yes. She's crazy. She's Looney McTooney.
Sarah:She not only killed Holly, but she killed another member of the band by stabbing him with a pair of scissors, or their manager with a pair of scissors. Yeah. And kind of like, he he he, that was fun. Her name is Yvette Parsons, the actress, and she's so good at being a maniac.
Mark:Remember she kinda escapes at the end and is kinda running away and
Sarah:then the third one is Brenda White who was involved in the Clue party and killed miss Scarlet.
Mark:When I always With a pair of scissors. Wait a
Sarah:minute. Did did Raelene and Brenda both kill somebody with a pair of scissors? Know Brenda did. Think Raelene killed She kills Holly with the amp. Yeah.
Sarah:And then she stabs the other guy I Yeah.
Mark:I always forget that Brenda White was in love with the weird poet guy. Mhmm. I always forget that that Clue episode is the weird poet episode too.
Sarah:Yeah. So It's it's a weird mix.
Mark:So they're all Looney McTooney?
Sarah:Yes. But it's like ghosts from Mike's past. All of the crazy ladies he's ever known that aren't that he didn't marry.
Mark:There's a Murdoch like this Yeah. Where Julia gets trapped inside the women's prison.
Sarah:Yeah in the dungeon of crazies. Of crazies that Where's my baby? Yeah. And they want her because of course
Sarah:they hate
Sarah:Murdoch. So yeah, it's those women and then and Corina dies not from being stabbed with a pencil, though that's what it's made to look like. Yes. And there's so much blood because she gets stabbed basically in the heart.
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:Right?
Mark:And I like I like that Gina, the way she shows that the pencil couldn't stab a person. Yeah. And anyone who's done anything with a pencil knows this.
Sarah:Yeah. But you but if you hadn't, you'd think it's totally possible. Right? But she brings in the beef roast and has them all try to stab it to prove. And that's what you'd have to do in court too.
Sarah:Right? If they said, oh, but she killed herself with a pencil. Like, she couldn't have. Breen is like, oh,
Mark:yellow power ranger.
Sarah:There's no light in your pencil. I cannot do her accent. I keep trying. I can't do it.
Mark:No. So who says my pleasure dome?
Sarah:Oh, that's that's Angela Lafferty, the superintendent. She says, welcome to my Pleasure Dome. Yeah. Do you know what that's a reference to?
Mark:Yes. It's a reference to Kubla Khan and Written by? Coleridge.
Sarah:Yes. Good job. English major go.
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:But there's a lot of other things called Pleasure Dome scents.
Mark:Well,
Sarah:yeah. Like a Frankie Goes to Hollywood It's
Mark:a fantastic Frankie Goes to Hollywood
Sarah:And several sticky nightclubs.
Mark:Yeah. So
Sarah:you've got those prisoners, the superintendent, and two guards, Denise and Casey, who were on night duty when Corina died.
Mark:Denise looks like a bad ex girlfriend. A specific one.
Sarah:Yes. Not just in general. No. I'm so sorry. So the two of them
Mark:are on duty. Imagine her with a Boston accent.
Sarah:Raelene sends up the alarm screaming like she always does. And they find Corina dead in her cell.
Mark:Yes. I have a note, Raelene is intense.
Sarah:Okay there's blood coming in her door, I would get worked up too.
Mark:Yes. So we also find out that there was a transfer from City Women's Prison. Why would you get transferred here? I don't know. I don't know.
Mark:Well she gets transferred here because she's part of the crime family that everybody
Sarah:The Doyles. The Doyles. That Corina was married into. Yeah. Man she killed him with an axe.
Sarah:Yeah. Dug a pretty deep hole for him too.
Mark:Like so She must have been stronger than she looks
Sarah:if she hauled his ass out there in the middle of the woods and dug that hole.
Mark:She is a victim of spousal abuse and though she murdered somebody it should have been understood that she was fighting for her survival. And I think they imply that.
Sarah:Yeah. Yeah. Well and she didn't get a life sentence. No. But I think I would have gone to prison just to get away from his family.
Sarah:God they're
Mark:They're horrible people. And the Doyles and the actors who play the Doyles come in, their part and leave perfectly.
Sarah:Oh yeah, but they're full on. Yeah. The mom is leather pants, leather jacket attitude. It's instant coffee but we drink it from this China, it makes it taste better.
Mark:They're big city criminals in the big city of Auckland.
Sarah:I didn't know why you were making that face.
Mark:Because I gotta get ready for the big city criminals.
Sarah:That's a pirate accent, I think. You were working up to it and making a face into the mic and I'm like, what is he about to do? So they they have a little flashback because Mike also arrested First
Mark:of all, the music from the psychedelic Furs episode of season eleven should have been used in this episode during the flashback.
Sarah:You just gave one of our Watch Like a Maniacs away.
Mark:I think people got it. Okay. Because wow.
Sarah:Hughes Hughes' facial hair is dark. They like stick a mustache on him.
Mark:Hughes is like fresh from the porno set.
Sarah:It's only supposed to be seven years ago. No. It's not like 1985.
Mark:But Mike's geeky evil twin. Urkel Mike. Urkel Mike. I'll I'll put a spit cover on my hair and comb it over.
Sarah:Brush it real hard to the side. And then in 2020, he gave up the part.
Mark:Like they must have came out to do that part and Tim Baum must have been like laughing his ass off.
Sarah:I was just thinking when I saw it and what we've got a screenshot, we've got a screenshot of Mike with this hair, the flashback hair. I was just thinking if I wanted to make you look ten years younger, I would not part your hair like that.
Mark:I'm a party boy now.
Sarah:I would start by putting some Just For Men into your beard though. Yes. Which would make you look like a pirate. If your beard was just black.
Mark:I unfortunately have hockey beard right now. Yeah. Not unfortunately. My team is doing well. I'm surprised your hair hasn't grabbed the Your
Sarah:beard hasn't tried to take it yet.
Mark:Oh, if we make it to round three, we might have to have a sub podcast about just the hair on my hair.
Sarah:Have to braid your mustache just to get it away from your mouth. I'm gonna have to cornrow your face.
Mark:I cannot believe how funny they look in the flashback.
Sarah:They they do look funny.
Mark:They totally are goofing on it. Yeah. They totally know they're looking funny.
Sarah:Yeah. So Corina confesses but she won't tell them where she's buried her husband's body, Where the body is and where the weapon is. Because she wants to keep something for herself. And if I were her, I wouldn't tell just to spite his horrible family because they never protected her, they never stuck up for her. Yeah.
Sarah:They knew what was happening and it serves them right. Yeah. But she does tell Trudy.
Mark:Yes. So Trudis is, Trudy is really the main character of this episode. Mhmm. And she is a woman in a powerless position who is taken advantage of. Yes.
Mark:Absolutely. Yes. And so does anything she can to survive and get out. Yes. She is a killer?
Sarah:No. She just poisoned, accidentally poisoned her neighbor and then accidentally trussed him up and wrapped wire around his Oopsie. She didn't mean to do it. But yeah, I mean when Karina takes her into her confidence, she's got some ammunition.
Mark:Yeah.
Sarah:Right? So, and we'll talk more about this. So this is a spoiler podcast, we've told you that, you know that by now. So Denise, the short dark haired prison guard is the killer. So Trudy must have told Denise that Karina told her where the body was?
Sarah:Yes. Why would Trudy have told Denise that?
Mark:No. I don't I don't know. I think she
Sarah:because Denise wants to kill Karina because Trudy knows where the body Yeah.
Mark:Because she says she has the golden ticket.
Sarah:Yeah. It's not good ammunition unless Karina's Yeah.
Mark:Trudy uses that information to give to Denise.
Sarah:Denise is just trying to get Trudy out. Yeah. And knows that that information will get her out.
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:I don't know why Trudy would tell and Karina certainly wouldn't tell Denise
Mark:No. No. Where the body was. Because she says she you have the golden ticket. Yeah.
Mark:So But I doubt that Trudy tells her the location. She may tell her that I know where the body is now
Sarah:Yeah.
Mark:But she doesn't
Sarah:And maybe Trudy told her that because Trudy wanted to use that ammunition and just told a guard because she was the nearest kind of official person, hey I know this. Yeah. Do you think you can talk to the superintendent?
Mark:But Denise has the weirdness.
Sarah:Yeah. She has all the wrong motives.
Mark:So This is a little bit aggressive lesbianism.
Sarah:Oh yeah. It's a
Mark:That's kind of
Sarah:Between Denise and Raylene
Mark:Yeah.
Sarah:Lesbians are not painted in a pretty picture. No. And apparently in New Zealand there is prison slang, a phrase that is gay for the stay.
Mark:Gay for the stay.
Sarah:Which means you're heterosexual when you're out of prison but when you're in prison you're a bit more open minded I guess. Yes. But Raeleen is just crazy minded.
Mark:She's just crazy crazy.
Sarah:And Denise is obviously crazy too. Yes. We get all of these pieces of information about life in prison that only feature this handful of prisoners.
Mark:Along with, and I think this is the whole reason that we get the prison for hire thing, is there's no CCTV of this. Yeah. So there has to be an explanation of why there's no CCTV.
Sarah:Yeah and that it's a private prison and they're So now
Mark:it's a private prison and they're doing money
Sarah:to And Angela is like, that would invade their privacy. Yeah. Like Whatever. That's an excuse.
Mark:It's totally a red herring.
Sarah:Yeah. But we get missus m's knitting class.
Mark:Okay. So this is summer
Sarah:camp with death. It's summer camp where you can never leave.
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:Mrs. M has done salsa dancing, knitting, embroidery or sewing of some sort. What else has she done?
Mark:The greatest passion play
Sarah:of Yes, that's true. The Christmas play.
Mark:It is the most fantastic nativity play
Sarah:of all time. The baby Jesus's head gets ripped off. Raelene's like, I just thought about all the suffering that Jesus has later.
Mark:The innkeeper raps.
Sarah:Yes. Oh, they all do it. It's all rhyming. It's
Mark:all rhyming. Much like like and that that is like so there is a great scene in the movie Rushmore in which a play of Apocalypse Now was performed at a high school.
Sarah:It's kind of like when you guys when you were teaching in the high school and you guys on the thing.
Mark:And they do the same thing they do here. They just show you enough of it to make you go, I wanna see everything.
Sarah:I wanna see all
Mark:of All of it. But if they did show you all of it, it wouldn't work.
Sarah:It wouldn't work.
Mark:But they show you the best part.
Sarah:You're like, if the rest of it is like this, it's very good.
Mark:So I have a question for you. Mhmm. So missus m is doing this out of the goodness of her heart, which like I just love miss m.
Sarah:Yeah.
Mark:She's fantastic.
Sarah:Yep.
Mark:She's helping women in need. Mhmm. Okay? And not just throwing them in a hole and forgetting them.
Sarah:Mhmm. Right? But her choice of things to teach are kind of dubious.
Mark:What could be worse? Because like the knitting class is pretty bad.
Sarah:It's handing people stakes basically. Shives.
Mark:There's a macrame reference here.
Sarah:Don't get me started. They're like, is it a knitting needle? No. Is it this? No.
Sarah:Is it that? No. Is it a macrame hook? Nobody does macrame anymore. I'm not offended by that.
Sarah:Okay. Macrame doesn't use hooks. You're tying knots in big fat card. There's no hooks.
Mark:The question I have is why is macrame out of favor? That's what you wanna talk about. Yes. Because it was so huge in the seventies.
Sarah:That's why it's out of favor.
Mark:It was
Sarah:it was it was so big. Unbelievably huge. It was so big. And I would argue that it's actually coming back. Oh.
Sarah:Just like a lot of the things from that era, the late seventies, early eighties are coming back into fashion.
Mark:Everyone had a Macrame Yes. Which obviously, you put your heaviest plant in this stupid thing of rope
Sarah:Yes.
Mark:And it fell in the middle of the night without without exception.
Sarah:Just look at Pinterest. How many macrame projects there are on Pinterest. You will be shocked.
Mark:And then there were like macrame dresses
Sarah:Yes.
Mark:And clothing. And I'm like, oh, this is it is
Sarah:It just makes you feel old. That's why you don't
Mark:like It's everything I hate about the seventies. There are a lot of great things in the seventies. The Ramones, Star Wars, Close Encounters, all that great stuff. MacRamay was not one of them.
Sarah:So if they let missus M teach knitting and sewing which involves needles and scissors, what ideas would they have rejected?
Mark:Maybe skeet shooting? Whittling? We're all out of we're all out of clay pigeons. We'll just throw guards.
Sarah:Yeah. Whittling? Like give them knives? Oh, Roxy could come in and teach jujitsu. Yes.
Sarah:Because we learned at the end that she's at a jujitsu tournament.
Mark:Bomb practical bombing. Yes.
Sarah:A whole class on the Anarchist's Cookbook.
Mark:A whole class on escapeology and famous escapes. Yes. Mrs. M, what are you teaching these girls? Corina's a pretty good dead body for Gina.
Sarah:Yeah. Gina says, Vishlock, Vashlock, VushkaVo.
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:Meaning eeny, meeny, miney, moe.
Mark:So eeny meeny miny moe is a kid's rhyme.
Sarah:Okay. Before you go on, say the whole rhyme. Okay. As you know it, as you would have said it as a kid.
Mark:As a kid. Eeny meeny miny moe. Catch a blank by the toe. Now I was taught a horrific word. Okay.
Sarah:Okay. We can imagine.
Mark:Yep. If he hollers, let him go. Eeny miny miny moe. That's interesting. Okay.
Mark:So it was male Yeah. And it was a horrible
Sarah:racial It was a racial slur.
Mark:Yeah. And I was taught that.
Sarah:What I learned was eeny miny miny moe, catch a tiger by toe. If it hollers, make him pay $50 every day. My mother told me to pick the very best one and you are not it.
Mark:Yes. So that's the girl's equivalent. Because that
Sarah:Oh, we want him to pay.
Mark:Is that right? No. No. But that's the the the girls clapping rhymes.
Sarah:Right? No. That's what we did when we played like Duck Duck Goose.
Mark:Oh, okay.
Sarah:You said it as you walked around. Okay. And when and you said, and you are not it, and you tag that person Yeah. They're it. Okay.
Sarah:They're not the best one, they're it.
Mark:Okay.
Sarah:And then they would chase you around the circle or whatever. You're playing. I looked this up because I wanted to know if vishlak vashlak vushkovo was actually the Russian version.
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:It's not. I don't know where they got that. Vushka means dumpling by the way. That's the only of those words that is even remotely a Russian word. Unless somebody knows better, I couldn't find it.
Sarah:But then I fell upon all of these threads of people talking about what's your version of eeny meeny miny moe? Yes. And I did see the one that you're talking about which was definitely about catching escaped slaves.
Mark:Yes. It's totally escaped slaves. I remember when that dawned on me as a kid. Yeah. I was like
Sarah:Wow, not saying that
Mark:anymore. Never saying that
Sarah:But wow, there's just in The US, there's this huge variety of you catch a tiger by its toe or you catch a turtle by its toe or you catch your mama by her toe.
Mark:It's always two syllables.
Sarah:There's all the end and what you do when you catch it. Like if you holler, let it go. Or if he hollers, make him pay. I think from what I could tell and again, limited research. Let me know if I'm wrong.
Sarah:The version that I said, if he hollers, make him pay $50 every day. My mother told me to pick that very best one and you are not it. Maybe specific to the Midwest where I grew up.
Mark:Oh, I think so.
Sarah:And I'd love to know if people have had different versions as kids from other areas of country and the world. I'd love to know what you were taught. They say that because Gina has all of these possible weapons and Yes. Like it it could be any of them. Right?
Mark:But she figures out that it's not It's
Sarah:not the pencil for sure. No. And then she and she narrows it down which means she get to show she gets to show up in her flower jeans.
Mark:Yeah.
Sarah:She pulls it off. Yeah. She looks great. Yep. She can pull it off.
Sarah:But it's an excuse to wear her heels to demonstrate how it was done.
Mark:And they come in at the most inappropriate time.
Sarah:What what did you think about bringing putting Sims up to talking to Gina and making it sound like the request they had for her was from Mike and that he was thinking about inviting her for dinner.
Mark:Got it.
Sarah:Are manipulating Gina? Are they being mean? Or does her kind of insubordination to them or her unwillingness to cooperate with them get her what she deserves?
Mark:Okay. Sims has to stick up for herself and Gina is being unreasonable with Sims.
Sarah:You think she's okay to have done that? No. She should have said, it's unacceptable that you'll work with him but you won't work with me. Tell me what I'm asking you.
Mark:What should happen is the pathologist should call her out on it. And she should say, I had to because you won't accept me. And they have a real conversation. Okay, that's the real world.
Sarah:Gina should say, why did you lie to me about coming here for dinner? And she's like, because I had to. Yes. Okay, that's the real world
Mark:boring That's real world boring version.
Sarah:Okay.
Mark:Okay? This is a fun thing in a television show where the whole subplot of Gina loving Mike is played for fun. I have no problem with it.
Sarah:But sometimes I feel sorry for Gina.
Mark:I do too, but she puts herself in these positions.
Sarah:Like she's the butt of their jokes and that's not nice.
Mark:No, but she's also like she sticks up for herself. Yeah. A plus.
Sarah:But she might also go home and be sad and lonely.
Mark:We don't see Gina's home life.
Sarah:No. Not yet anyway. No. Not in eleven seasons. No.
Sarah:Who knows? Season twelve may be Gina season.
Mark:We find out that Trudy's husband
Sarah:Has left her.
Mark:Has left her.
Sarah:Did you think that's what was gonna happen between them?
Mark:I forget. I meant to listen to our after the show to see what happens.
Sarah:Our impression was that they legitimately cared about each other. And then she wanted him to move away from the farm but he was never going to but it was killing him.
Mark:Yep. So
Sarah:They really cared about each other. But I guess, you know, the actor moved on so it became inconvenient for him to have a wife in prison. Yes. So Ray is the only one who comes to visit. Which means she can put him up to catching a fish and burying it.
Mark:There's a
Sarah:whole I love that Trudy is so manipulative that she can plant fake evidence while in jail.
Mark:And the best part of that flashback, so so they they go to find the dead body. It's a fish.
Sarah:Yes.
Mark:It's a fish that Jared goes, duh.
Sarah:He knows all about it already.
Mark:He knows all about it already. And he goes, that fish, if it was buried years ago, would have been rotten.
Sarah:Yes. Obviously.
Mark:And then he goes, you should ask the fishermen. And then there's this awesome shot of Ray fishing. Yeah. And you know exactly what happened.
Sarah:She's like, and he he's carrying off his big fish. He's like, Gina will be happy about this. And we know Gina is in prison, so it's not like he's taking it home to cook it.
Mark:That day filming, they were like, Ray, look the happiest you've ever looked in your life.
Sarah:You two just get to stand on the beach and fish.
Mark:Yep. And Ray is just like, yep, okay.
Sarah:I wonder if you can actually catch fish that big from the beach.
Mark:That would be impressive.
Sarah:That's amazing if
Mark:you It's it's another like, well at first you're like, oh yeah Jared's in this episode.
Sarah:Yeah. He's in it for three minutes.
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:He gets to go fishing and have wine at Mike's and
Mark:that's That is it.
Sarah:It's not bad. That's not a bad gig. Yeah because so Brenda thinks that she's got the map to where Jaden is buried and it's gonna get her out of jail. But it turns out that Trudy has completely fabricated it.
Mark:It's all in my mind.
Sarah:Because Trudy has it committed to memory she actually knows where the body is and is able to take them there.
Mark:So before we get to that whole series bit at the end, I wanna talk about the sun that appears to be eating people.
Sarah:Yes. So in the visitors room in the prison where they do
Mark:their There's a lot of bad art.
Sarah:Yeah. Well, it's prison art. It's summer camp remember?
Mark:Yes, sorry. It's summer
Sarah:camp. One of the things that's in there, and we've got a shot of it, we'll put it in the show notes, Overbrain Shoulder is a mural of a son that includes a son with big sharp teeth. Incredibly big sharp teeth. Like right at the horizon as if it's eating the ocean.
Mark:Now we're joking, but just look at any scene that happens in that room and replace the inmates with children and you have summer camp.
Sarah:Yes. You have summer camp.
Mark:Including Mrs. M.
Sarah:Or a residential school for problematic kids
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:At the worst.
Mark:All of the
Sarah:same. So it it's an awful looking sun. It's like, and Mark and I were both like, what the heck is that about? Yes. Why did they let them paint that on the wall?
Sarah:Turns out it's a Maori legend
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:About how the Maoris slowed the sun. Oh. And in all of the art related to that legend, the sun has great big freaking teeth. I don't know why, but the Maori warriors tie it down with ropes Oh. And slow it down.
Mark:So they're swimming to it to tie it down.
Sarah:We'll put a link to a YouTube video Yep. Of an author reading a children's book about it. In the illustrations in the book, they're not they're not in the water. They're on the land. But they they throw ropes out to it because, the problem they're solving is that the sun rises and sets so fast that they have no time to fish or farm or Oh, okay.
Sarah:Do all the things. So they need to slow it down. Why it has big teeth? I do not know. It is definitely a reference to that legend.
Sarah:It's gotta be.
Mark:It also reminded me of, and this could be a reference to the legend too, punk singer from the eighties, Henry Rollins has a giant skull on his back that has a face on it that's smiling.
Sarah:A skull?
Mark:No. No. A son. Sorry. A giant sun on his back.
Sarah:Yeah. Well, the the face that's on the sun in the painting and in the book that we'll link to the YouTube video about, those are Maori facial tattoos. Yeah. Like that's that's the markings on the face.
Mark:It wouldn't surprise me if Rollins is is referencing that.
Sarah:Yeah. But those big teeth, I don't know. I don't know where those come from. So Raelene confesses. Yes.
Sarah:She says that she stole the heels from the dress up box for the passion play and that she unlocked her door with a crochet hook, which is a real thing unlike a macrame hook. Because she likes being in prison. She doesn't wanna go. Yep. She's a Nancy no mates.
Sarah:This is the best thing she's ever had.
Mark:It's it's institutionalizing in thirty seconds of an incredibly complex ninety minute show.
Sarah:I tell you what, that scene of them doing yoga with Frodo's not girlfriend? Yes. She gropes Karina. That is not Not acceptable.
Mark:It's totally not acceptable. And were you like, why are they talking? Oh, she's the yoga instructor.
Sarah:Yeah.
Mark:You're like, why are they talking to to Frodo's not girlfriend?
Sarah:Now you've done much more yoga than I have. Yes. Is Buddha by the pool an actual pose?
Sarah:No. Okay.
Mark:Not that I've ever done.
Sarah:Because that's the pose they're doing is Buddha by the pool. No.
Mark:They do they do do actual yoga moves,
Sarah:but I
Mark:don't recall one
Sarah:They do downward dog and stuff, but then when they lie on their side and put their leg up in the air, she says
Sarah:it's booted by the pool.
Sarah:So Raelene confesses, but when they have her reenact getting out of her cell with the hook, she can't. Yeah. Can't. Work. A crochet hook is not gonna unlock that door.
Mark:And Mike's radar is off. He's like
Sarah:whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop. And she's hiding the stilettos in her mattress cover. That would make that uncomfortable mattress even worse, would think. Yes. If there were a couple of shoes in there.
Sarah:What's Mrs. M doing with a pair of red stiletto heels
Mark:Oh I have a note that says where did Mrs. M get those stilettos?
Sarah:And they're size forty which is the same size that I wear before you say anything in UK sizes, which is a US Size Ten in women's. So they're not like petite shoes. They're big shoes. I love when Breen has to go get a pair. They're not for me.
Sarah:Okay. Okay.
Mark:There's a moment here where Raelene does a fantastic bit of acting where she's thinking.
Sarah:Oh, her eyes. They like ping pong back and forth when she's freaking out.
Mark:Yep. She's a good Yvette Parsons is a good actress. So you found out something about her that I did not know.
Sarah:I thought she was so good at being crazy in the first episode that she was in.
Mark:She was fantastic. Like in the flashbacks she is
Sarah:We we missed absolutely maniacal.
Mark:We missed this in the first episode.
Sarah:So when I saw her again, well first of all, I'm obsessed with her hair. She's got the best curls. I wish I had curls like that. Mine are not like that. But I was like, well, she's such a she's so good at at playing this character.
Sarah:I didn't look that far into what she'd done. She's just been in a bunch of New Zealand stuff. Like she's done Power Ranger voiceovers. Like like everybody else. But she did go to England early in her career like right after college I guess.
Sarah:In the eighties. In the eighties she went to England for quite a while before she went back to New Zealand. And while she was there she played keyboard in a band called Dead Can Dance.
Mark:Yes. So that's a big Which quite
Sarah:shocked you because
Mark:you were like,
Sarah:yeah I've heard of that band.
Mark:Yeah. And she wasn't a member of the band, I think she probably toured with them.
Sarah:But she played keyboard for him. That's I bet she was fantastic.
Mark:She absolutely you can't lock into that gig.
Sarah:Can we talk about Mike's dream?
Mark:Mike's dream fantastically twin peaksy.
Sarah:He realizes Raelene's confession
Mark:isn't Oh my god. So fantastically twin peaksy.
Sarah:I love when Raelene's unlocking the door with the fish then she's got the lipstick all over
Mark:her face. It is how they did those scenes without laughing.
Sarah:Oh they must have been laughing.
Sarah:They must have been cracking up. I have a feeling that Yvette Parsons is quite funny. Yes. Think that she was probably cracking everybody up all the time. Yep.
Sarah:But he so Breen buys the red shoes Yes. And Mike takes him to the prison and plays Cinderella with Raelene. He says, try these on. And she puts them on with her prison tube socks. Yes.
Sarah:And she can't her feet immediately fall over. And I was like that's me in heels. That's what my feet do. She says I fall off of them like that's what happens to me.
Mark:It must be so incredibly hard to do. I cannot imagine.
Sarah:Women who can do it, people who can do it. There's a lot of drag queens who way work heels that I just don't know how they
Mark:learn to do I worked in a club, a nightclub where I saw a lot of women with high heels on. You can derive from that what you wish. You DJ'd for a summer in a strip club. Yes. I saw the damage high heels did to women's feet.
Sarah:Oh yeah.
Mark:Just unbelievable.
Sarah:Yeah. It's really bad. Like Their feet They
Mark:can't walk properly without those
Sarah:Their feet, their hips, their backs. Their knees, all kinds of damage. But Raelene can't, she can't walk in them.
Mark:Now we know it's not Raelene.
Sarah:Well, she can't, she's so bad at walking in them that it's not even plausible that she had them on long enough to stand on Carina.
Mark:Yes. Because that that is how Carina is murdered. She is told to lie on the floor so somebody with authority told her. Right. Immediately, Raelene would have been like lie on the floor and Carina would have been like, no.
Sarah:Yeah.
Mark:Lie on the floor.
Sarah:Pillow on her face.
Mark:Pillow was put on her face and a sharpened shoe is driven into her chest.
Sarah:She just steps on her chest with her weight on her heel. That was absolutely worth.
Mark:This is one of the most horrific Brokenwood deaths.
Sarah:Do you think when Baum was writing this that he had a big beef roast and he tried it?
Mark:Yeah. I totally think he did.
Sarah:Like he tried stabbing with pencils. Yep. He tried standing on it in a in a stiletto. You'd almost have to. You can't make that big of a point of the pencil not being possible just to find out that a stiletto wouldn't be possible.
Sarah:Yeah. But they must be not just any kind of stiletto heel because cheap shoes are cheap shoes.
Mark:Yeah and they're going to break.
Sarah:And those heels would break. Yeah. You know.
Mark:So Mrs. M had fancy stiletto.
Sarah:They're like Jimmy Choos or something.
Mark:Mrs. M's Jimmy Choos.
Sarah:And and
Mark:now the name of the episode.
Sarah:And the tip is sharpened. Yeah. Makes it even crazier.
Mark:I I just imagine Denise like with one of those old timey big sharpening stones moving her leg up. Yeah. You have to pedal? She's like and like sparks shooting off of So
Sarah:Raelene can't walk in the heels, but we're supposed to believe that Denise can.
Mark:Yeah. I well, Denise puts it on to stab her and that's it.
Sarah:Yeah.
Mark:And she leans against the wall in the reenactment.
Sarah:Okay. Then then she could probably do it.
Mark:Yeah. So we find out Denise and Trudy ish helped with this.
Sarah:No. Trudy just knew it was happening.
Mark:Well, and so they arrest Trudy but they can't hold her because she didn't do anything. No. Poor Ray is like
Sarah:But she's
Mark:not Trudy's out. Oh no. Yes she is.
Sarah:Yeah. I feel bad for Trudy in that scene, in the reenactment of the murder.
Mark:Trudy is a powerless individual Yeah. Who is taken advantage of and abused.
Sarah:Absolutely.
Mark:Even if Trudy knows what's going on and is manipulating her, she still has no power in the situation.
Sarah:What could she do?
Mark:She has no power in the situation. No. None. So again, that is a story that I would say is told from a woman's perspective and we understand that powerlessness that a male creator would have a tougher time telling this.
Sarah:But just like Corina had no choice but to kill her husband, Trudy has no choice but to keep her mouth shut. Yep. What's she gonna do? Report on Denise? Who's gonna believe her?
Sarah:Nobody.
Mark:Turns the corner and goes full freakasoid at the end. Oh man,
Sarah:does she? I can pull some strings and we can get a cell together.
Mark:Hold my hand my love. No. Trudy's like, you see the powerlessness and the abuse and the trauma that Trudy has undergone in that scene.
Sarah:Yeah. I I really like when they put Trudy in the back of the car to drive her home. Yeah. How much she is just so relieved to be out in the sun and in the air Yeah. And away because wow, that would be so smothering to have somebody wielding that kind of power over you all the time.
Sarah:I mean prison's bad enough but that Yep. So then they get to go to to Mike's house for dinner.
Mark:For the worst dinner party ever. Who brings a roast to a dinner party? An uncooked roast.
Sarah:It's cooked. It's got rosemary
Mark:sticks in Oh, it does.
Sarah:Yeah. It's cooked. She she she made it. But who brings an uncovered? What did she do?
Sarah:Put it in the in the passenger seat of the car?
Mark:Stab, stab, stab, stab, stab,
Sarah:corners slow so the roast doesn't slide around.
Mark:So Roxy's a jujitsu. Mhmm. Okay? We Roxy is now the character that never shows up for anything.
Sarah:No. Jared's man in
Mark:the I think the next scene we get to see the next season we get to see Roxy, I think. I'm not sure.
Sarah:We'll see. Yeah. And Gina brings the stabbed meat. Yes. And Mike's She's
Mark:all dressed up.
Sarah:See again I feel bad. Yep. How many pairs of heels does she have?
Mark:Yeah I do not.
Sarah:How do you walk on grass
Mark:in those I do not like that's a tough one.
Sarah:She's wearing a jumpsuit. Yep. I can't see a jumpsuit like that and go how do you go pee in that? Yeah. It's got a belt over it, you gotta take the belt off.
Mark:You gotta get undressed and
Sarah:go to the bathroom. Gotta out of that thing to go to the bathroom. But Mike isn't even there. He's at the funeral for Karina because he feels bad.
Mark:Mike is all about Mike's got a little savior complex going on, and he always has. He had it in the first season, and that comes back. I think that character comes back later on.
Sarah:Do you think that if it had been up to him, she wouldn't have gone to prison? I didn't get that sense. I don't think he feels bad that she went to prison.
Mark:I think they tried to do everything they could to help her.
Sarah:She got a fifteen year sentence. Yeah. And she was probably gonna get out in ten. Yeah. Like ten years for killing your husband with an axe and not turning over his body, that's nothing.
Mark:Yeah. Nothing. Especially when he deserved it. Exactly. Well, okay.
Mark:No one deserves to be killed.
Sarah:No. But when he was an abuser and everybody knew
Mark:But I feel that her life was in danger?
Sarah:Yeah. It was basically self defense.
Mark:Self defense.
Sarah:Yeah. Wow. On that note Wow. That's dead and buried. Karina is the best dead body.
Sarah:She does a good job. Not gonna give it to Jaden, her her ex, or dead husband, because we don't really see much of him.
Mark:So missus White stays in prison. Mhmm.
Sarah:And Brenda and Raylene are still still there. Yes. Raylene stays in prison. Along with Polly forever backward tattoo forehead woman. That is so funny.
Mark:There's two other inmates who are there just to be joked about.
Sarah:Yes. Shaz and Miranda or no, Nancy. Yeah. Shaz is Jonesy.
Mark:Shaz is the Doyle. Like she's just there to cause problems. Yeah. Like the people who run prisons are not stupid. No.
Mark:Like they would know, they would go, No, we're not taking her. Or if we're taking her, she's going nowhere near this other person.
Sarah:So Shaz is the forehead one. Yeah. And then there's Jonesy who's the read my lips, Your lips aren't moving. Exactly. And then does the bird and the double bird at Sims in the interview room.
Sarah:She's funny.
Mark:I'm just mean to Sims.
Sarah:So that's Dead and Buried. And that is the end of season six.
Mark:Yes. So this is like there's a real turning point. So season six means now that they're out of government money.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:Right? They have to make money on their own. And they make a real big push here because the seasons after this, they're all are all six seasons.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:Six episode seasons. Mhmm. I don't think there's any change in the quality of the work even to set season eleven.
Sarah:No. If anything, it it continues to get better.
Mark:Yeah. That we've seen in Murdoch. And I would say we've seen in Father Brown. Yeah. There's a decline of quality there.
Sarah:Well, and that is not just a change in production funding and stuff, but it's also like, okay, you've you've you've run out of ideas. Yes. Let it
Sarah:let it go. Yeah.
Sarah:And then they start to jump the shark a bit as they try to push and dig for plots that they just they just shouldn't. Yeah. But this no. This just gets better. Broken wood just gets better.
Sarah:Which is why we're gonna keep going with season seven episode one next week.
Mark:Yes. Season one season seven episode one, The Garat and the Winkelbrahn, which is the antiques roadshow And we're like we're famous for this. We're like, okay, if this show that we're watching, watching, this British reality show
Sarah:Somebody needs to get murdered
Mark:in this Someone needs to get murdered in this show, like come how come dine with us didn't have a murder is kind of amazing.
Sarah:How somebody hasn't made a mystery like Broken Wood or Murdoch that's set during a filming of Come Dine With Me, they're just missing an opportunity. Heck, we're so bad about this that I'm if I've got five minutes and I just wanna goof around, I love to look at Rightmove which is The UK Zillow basically. Yeah. And I sort it just by houses that are over like 10,000,000 and have more than 10 acres of land or whatever.
Mark:We can't afford a 10,000,000.
Sarah:No no no no. But those are the those are
Mark:the The YouTube money is not No.
Sarah:Those are the old crazier houses and I'm constantly sending you links going, how has there not been a murder mystery set in this house? This house needs a body, you know.
Mark:And somebody posted a cartoon and I totally agree with it. If we were to go to England, say we went to England for three months and stayed in a cottage and went around and saw everybody and did live episodes and it was fantastic and we were on Midsummer Murders and all our dreams came true, we would be like there wasn't a real murder.
Sarah:Yeah. We went on a cruise but nobody died.
Mark:Wow, we're never going on
Sarah:a cruise. There was no mystery to solve. How disappointing was that?
Mark:And all those okay. All your little mystery nights, I figured them out in like five minutes.
Sarah:Yeah. They're murder mystery games.
Mark:We tend to figure those out pretty quickly.
Sarah:Unfortunately. We know a lot of and I'm sure a lot of our listeners would too. They're just they're used to the tropes. They understand them. So It's tough, know.
Mark:You miss If
Sarah:you the
Mark:newsletter, we had a newsletter go out this week which included our May schedule as well as a lovely picture of Olive stealing Sarah's seat.
Sarah:Olive who is a dog.
Mark:Yes. So I did get a note. I did get a note on YouTube, which was this desperate woman who said, oh my gosh, Olive is a dog. To which I responded, you must be so confused.
Sarah:If you didn't know she was
Sarah:a dog, you'd think we were so weird.
Mark:I now wanna listen to those episodes.
Sarah:And imagine Olive being a child and and and understand it in that way. All the crazy things we've said.
Mark:Did you leave the baby outside?
Sarah:Olive won't stop peeing on the deck.
Mark:So if you sign up for the newsletter, the the Reddit, subreddit is going great. We have Instagram and all those social medias.
Sarah:Send us your eeny meeny miny mo version.
Mark:Send us your
Sarah:eeny meeny mo. Tell us where you're from and what you learned as a I wanna know. I'm curious. If you get if you have access to season eleven like we do
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:Listen to the minis. Absolutely.
Mark:And we're gonna cover all six episodes and those will be released through May.
Sarah:I can't believe some of the stuff that we've noticed in those episodes. They're really fun.
Mark:Keep supporting Leafs. Go Leafs go and we will talk to you in a week with the Garrot and the Winklebran.
Sarah:Bye, Maniacs.
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Mark:Bye, maniacs. And forget the last part I was gonna say.
Sarah:You're old now.
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:You wanna do that again?
Mark:Yes.
