Love From Snoogie | Brokenwood | "Dog Day Morning" | Mystery Maniacs Podcast EP239
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Sarah:Hey, maniacs.
Mark:Hey, mystery maniacs. Mystery maniacs
Sarah:is Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.
Sarah:I'm too excited.
Mark:We are too excited to do the intro.
Sarah:I'm too excited to let you do the intro.
Mark:Oh my gosh.
Sarah:Guys, we have something so epic, so incredible. Well, we we just have to play it for them.
Mark:We'll play it for you. So listen closely Listen, guys. To this.
Tracy:Hey, maniacs. I'm no narc, but you're listening to the mystery maniacs podcast. It's aspirational.
Mark:Oh my gosh.
Sarah:Did you recognize that voice?
Mark:Oh my gosh. I recognized her as our new friend, Tracy. As our new friend, Tracy Lee Gray.
Sarah:Otherwise known as Trudy Nielsen from Broken Wood.
Mark:Oh my god.
Sarah:So Hi, Tracy.
Mark:Last yes. Hi, Tracy. Last Saturday night, we're sitting in the living room as we normally do on Saturday nights after we record, and I am furiously checking things on my phone.
Sarah:I was like, what are you doing? And you're like, I need to know. I need to know if it's really her. It might not be her. I don't know if it's her.
Mark:I'm like, what are you talking about? Because I had received a message from a listener answering a question.
Sarah:We had asked a couple episodes ago. We had asked, like, how many businesses has Ray owned? Like, he's had, like, the frog and cheetah and the snake and tiger and porky pigeon. And then you got a Facebook message.
Mark:I got a Facebook message from Tracy Lee Gray, which said, hey, maniacs.
Sarah:She loves That
Mark:alone is amazing. I think I'm qualified to answer this question for you. The four aspirational establishments that Ray and Trudy own are frog and cheetah, toad and lion, snake and tiger, crocodile and panther, and last and very much least, Gourmet Ray's Porky Pigeon Pizzeria. Thanks for watching. Keep safe from those tornadoes trying to steal your birthday cake.
Sarah:So we knew if this was the real Tracy Gray, not only was she answering her question, but she must have listened to at least one episode when we talked about my cake.
Mark:I cannot believe the story of the cake continues.
Sarah:I know. So you messaged her back?
Mark:I messaged her back, stunned that Trudy had messaged us, telling her how great it was to hear from her, that we did a little dance maybe. Well, we did kind of big dance. That we asked her, first of all, is it okay if we talked about her messaging us in the podcast? And of course.
Sarah:We And how did she hear about the podcast? Yes. Because she clearly listened to at least part of one episode. Yes. And she said what?
Sarah:It was a costume designer?
Mark:So she she returned first of all and said that her the publicity department had given her the okay to do a little voice hit for us. And that's what you heard. Yes. Which you will hear a gazillion times because now we are endorsed by No. Tracy Lee Gray.
Mark:To hear her say, Hey, maniacs
Sarah:That's so fun.
Mark:Is just so much fun. So we asked her how she had heard about the show, and she said it was on a Facebook fan page, which means she is lurking on Facebook fan pages.
Sarah:Which is fun. I would if I were her. I mean, if she's got the time, I would certainly wanna know what people thought of the show I was on.
Mark:And their incredible costume designer, that's her words, I have all sorts of fantastic words for, Tanya Clowens. I hope I'm pronouncing that right. Who also wrote the Seance episode. She also wrote the episode, the Day of the Dead episode from the season So she's written two episodes. She is one of the premier costume designers in New Zealand for television.
Mark:She just does amazing work. She's won awards for it. That's awesome. She obviously, in particular, loves this episode. It is the first picture on her app on her website, the Dog Day afternoon episode.
Mark:Dog Day Morning. Sorry. Then Tracy just just took it to another level. She said, you were discussing the Scarecrow episode. It's fun listening to your perspectives on episodes, particularly the prison episode, because I find interesting to know what viewers are for or against Trudy's behavior.
Mark:I think it says more about the viewers themselves. It's a complex episode, and you guys get a gold star for that one, obviously. Dismount tens from the Russian judge. We're done. We're out.
Mark:Perfection.
Sarah:I would say Trudy is the most complex character on Brokenwood.
Mark:I would absolutely agree. And I
Sarah:And I have liked her, and I have disliked her, and I have rooted for her, and I have wanted to slap her. And more often than not, I have that girl's back. I'm like, you go, Trudy.
Mark:Yes. Absolutely. We know for well, we know a couple of things about Trudy. We know she's no narc right away.
Sarah:It's aspirational.
Mark:And it's aspirational what she's doing. In the latest episode of season eleven, which has ties to this episode, last week It's weird. Yeah. We went on and on about how season seven and eleven are tied. This again is ties.
Mark:Yeah. The last episode, the Odes Christmas special, which is what I'm calling it now. Or Frodo gets his cracker. Tracy's part in that episode is perfection. Yeah.
Mark:It is the right tone it needs to be. Yep. In terms of seriousness.
Sarah:The writers did a really good job and she does a great job.
Mark:Fantastic actress. And she's super fun
Sarah:in the episode that we're talking about this week, which is season seven episode three, Dog Day Morning. So She single handedly takes on a bank robber because she takes no crap off of anybody. Be prepared
Mark:for us to mention every time we mention Pruy, friend of the show, Tracy Gray.
Sarah:Oh, I hope you guys thought that was as fun as we did.
Mark:I care.
Sarah:I'm really stoked.
Mark:I'm absolutely stunned. I still can't believe it.
Sarah:Now I just want her to walk around the set with her phone and just get, you know, a few more people to
Mark:record something. Gosh.
Sarah:Okay. Not not that I'm begging
Mark:for gotten excellent responses from Tracy.
Sarah:Absolutely Not asking her for anything else. Unless she just wants to.
Mark:Unless she wants to.
Sarah:Yeah. We won't say no. Alright. Back to where we were Speaking of season eleven.
Mark:Mystery Maniacs is a comedy recap podcast dedicated to mystery TV. Each week, we dig into an episode of the show including the murders, the mayhems, the loonies, and everything else we love, especially our new friends. This week, the Brokenwood Mysteries Dog Day Morning season seven episode three. I'm Mark. I'm Sarah.
Mark:If you let your children
Sarah:Rob Banks.
Mark:Rob Banks with Dog masks. Masks on, they can listen to the podcast? We
Sarah:do spoil it.
Mark:We do spoil it.
Sarah:Going back to season eleven, we've been doing mini episodes for those How to Watch Like a Maniac, and the last season eleven minutei is now live.
Mark:Yes. So we have done 12 episodes in a month and a half. In six weeks, we will have done 12 episodes.
Sarah:It's all good. It's all
Mark:It's crazy. May, we knew was going to be crazy, and we know that probably December will be crazy or January will be crazy.
Sarah:If if we get a new season of midsummer.
Mark:A new season of midsummer.
Sarah:When we think we're going to. Last week, we talked
Mark:about I'm just saying, Fiona, we haven't heard from you. Yeah. I'm just saying. Fiona Dohlman. Yeah.
Mark:Haven't heard from you.
Sarah:Sarah Barnaby. Last week, we talked about Witches of Brokenwood, and we were kind of at a loss on whether or not Gren was actually trying to kill his wife, Joy, with the Saint John's wort extract because he went in and he he stole it out of her room at the spa. And was he trying to kill her or not? Was it an accident or not? Maybe he got her the extract, and it was stronger than he thought, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Sarah:And SouthCucumber9532 on Reddit, I think, has the right answer to this question. So what they say is that Gren did intend to overdose joy. That's hard to say, overdois joy
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:But changed his mind when they met at the coffee cart, and she said she wanted to get back together.
Mark:So then
Sarah:he had to break in That's why he snuck in to take it out, because he didn't want to overdose her after all. But had she not wanted to get with him, he would have been happy to have killed her apparently.
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:And I think South Cucumber is right about that.
Mark:She also loves our idea of the passive aggressive tree house.
Sarah:Yes. But thanks for sending us that answer because I think that's that's the right explanation and it makes everything make sense.
Mark:The big hit off of the top of the show was supposed to be Department Q.
Sarah:Mhmm. On Netflix.
Mark:Which is fantastic. There are nine episodes on Netflix.
Sarah:It's based on the novels by UC Adler Olsen. Yes. If you've not read the books and you decide to watch the show, I'm just gonna say the first episode is not as gripping as it could be. Give it two episodes before you make up your mind. Yep.
Sarah:They have a lot of world building to do in the first episode. I was fine with that because I love the books, and I knew what was going
Mark:to happen. We knew where it was going.
Sarah:But if you don't know where it's going, you might get a little impatient. Yep. But was his name Matthew Good? Yes. Is that right?
Sarah:He's he's nice to look at. Sorry, honey. It's okay. But he's really, really good in it, and give it a shot. That's Department q
Mark:on The individual play who plays Karl Mork in we listen to the books. Yeah. So that's how they say
Sarah:it in
Mark:the book.
Sarah:Yeah. Because they're Swedish.
Mark:In the Swedish movies, is that perfect amount of star good looks and not attractive at the same time.
Sarah:He looks like he's been noogieed all the time.
Mark:Like, Matured Good's a little too good looking
Sarah:for He's off pretty. Yeah.
Mark:But I think the dialogue is excellent and I think the the adaptation so far. Now, this is an ending. They have to stick.
Sarah:Yep. And we've not made it to
Mark:the ninth episode to the ending yet. So we can't speak on that. We'll speak on that next week or whenever we have another episode. We might need to take a break. But
Sarah:It's well worth watching. But like I said, make it through the know that the first episode is is not like mystery right in your face. Yep. It's a nine episode series that covers one story. Yes.
Sarah:So they've gotta lay some groundwork Yeah. In the first episode. It's the first book. But it's well worth Yeah. Well worth your time.
Mark:This episode of Brokenwood
Sarah:Dog Day Morning.
Mark:Dog Day Morning was released on 04/05/2021. Mark Beasley directed it.
Sarah:Co written by Nick Sampson. Tim Ginger Ranger.
Mark:And Ginger Ranger wrote it.
Sarah:He he leaves his last episode and starts co writing episodes.
Mark:So Dog Day Afternoon is a movie from 1975 starring Al Pacino about a bank robbery that goes badly. Now, they're at least semi prepared as opposed to these bank robbers. This episode should really be entitled How Not to Rob a Bank.
Sarah:All I know is that there are so many funny lines in this episode. I thought that the last the last season eleven episode had a lot of zingers in it. Yes. But this one has just as many.
Mark:This this especially for end of the show, Tracy Trudy. Is excellent, but Frodo just steps to the front of the stage and is a comedic god in this episode.
Sarah:Well, just the interaction between the bank robbers. They are so inept. But they're not just bad at being bank robbers, they're just idiots. They are. You know?
Sarah:True, stuff that they say to each other is so funny. And there's too many odes involved in it too. One ode is too many odes. Yes, but there's two. So No, mean, in the bank robbery.
Sarah:Yes. Just the fact that Reese is one of the bank robbers means the level of IQ just went down for all of them.
Mark:So Trudy's going to the bank, and we have a season eleven connection right away. And I'm gonna I think we can we can break this. So one of the questions we asked in the season eleven episode six, Watch Like a Maniac was what animal is outside of the cop shop and why? Mhmm. We didn't know the why at this point in
Sarah:time. No. No. No. Not until we rewatched this episode.
Mark:And as soon as I saw this episode, I'm like, it's the goat from the savings and loans.
Sarah:Yeah. There's a phone booth in front of the cop shop that has an ad on the side of it with the goat on it, and you're like, what's that goat doing there? It's It's an ad for the bank.
Mark:It's there four seasons later. Yeah. Fantastic. Yeah. Boy, are these boys trying to look cool.
Sarah:Before we get to the bank robbers, did you notice the coffee cart that's across the street before they go in?
Mark:There's two coffee carts across the street. There's one that's yellow that I could never get.
Sarah:It's the black one I was interested in. It says feed the addiction.
Mark:Yes. So this is from thecoffeestore.c0.nz.
Sarah:Oh, is that real?
Mark:Yes. Oh. They are the people who provide, I'm assuming, the coffee for the show as well On set. As Frodo's coffee truck.
Sarah:Oh.
Mark:So they have dressed one of their coffee carts to look like Frodo's coffee cart. Nice. So and I have more on that later. I'll put their website in the show notes. Go support these people if you live in NZ.
Sarah:Feed the addiction.
Mark:Feed the addiction. They clearly are cool people and they have fun with what they're doing. So they they should on their website say, I've seen in Broken Woods.
Sarah:Yeah. Really?
Mark:But yeah. Frodo's coffee cart. The same sign is on Frodo's coffee cart, so the the and the bucket latte is still there.
Sarah:Yep.
Mark:But there's a new sign on Frodo's coffee cart. There's a there's a chalkboard, which, again, signs of things to come.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:And on this
Sarah:Frodo's super relaxed coffee.
Mark:It's Frodo's super relaxing coffee.
Sarah:That's kind of the anti addiction one.
Mark:It's so weird.
Sarah:So the guys do the I've never seen Dog Day Afternoon. Do they wear suits?
Mark:No. They do not wear suits.
Sarah:So this almost like a pulp fiction thing going This
Mark:is Reservoir Dogs.
Sarah:Oh, that's right. Reservoir Dogs. The black suit with the white shirt and black And
Mark:they do look cool coming out of the car.
Sarah:Except that they park across the street and then look for traffic
Mark:and street. And I used the image on the reminder of them in the costumes Mhmm. Which is the same on the costume and designer website. I think it's a fantastic shot that
Sarah:But as soon as they enter the bank, the dumbness starts.
Mark:It's just the dumbness starts right away.
Sarah:That what's the gaming console in the tote bag?
Mark:It's an Xbox.
Sarah:So they've got an Xbox that they claim is a bomb.
Mark:It's an Xbox. I have in my notes.
Sarah:It's a bomb.
Mark:And it's covered in dust. That's the the
Sarah:It's brilliant
Mark:thing is that it is
Sarah:It's a junky old
Mark:Xbox. Xbox.
Sarah:Yeah. And one of them picks up a potted plant Yep. And threatens to hit people with it. They immediately start calling each other by name. Yep.
Sarah:The teller recognizes the voice of Devin right off the bat.
Mark:Truly, in heaven,
Sarah:none of it. You cannot rob a bank in a small town No. If you are from that small town.
Mark:No. Everyone would know you.
Sarah:They would be like, well, there's 25 men who are between 19 and 20 in this town, and they were all missing at this time. So it must be them. Like, just too easy to figure out.
Mark:The teller says reads the note and says, we have a bone. She's like, well, you're dressed as dogs.
Sarah:The importance of handwriting. Yes.
Mark:Because Trudy has the take from the night before. That's gonna be a big bag of money. Mhmm. Now I gotta say, might as well have a little dollar sign on the outside of it.
Sarah:Yeah. But who's gonna mess with Trudy?
Mark:Apparently, these guys
Sarah:do. If she wants to take a a canvas sack of money into the bank every Friday Yeah. Nobody's gonna get in her way.
Mark:There's machinations which involve them going into the backroom, opening up safety deposit boxes, and then there's a gunshot that surprises everyone. The three of them leave and get in the car with the fourth getaway driver.
Sarah:Which is out of gas.
Mark:Which quickly runs out of gas.
Sarah:Because old SC only puts a liter at a time into it. It's bad for the environment to leave too much gas in the tank.
Mark:So then they take off. Right? Again, this is Sarah's bugaboo of where are they gonna go?
Sarah:Well, at least they scatter.
Mark:At least they scatter.
Sarah:But none of them is smart enough to take the damn suit off. No. Like, change your clothes, idiot.
Mark:Trudy doesn't have to spend a lot of brain cells to get detective work here to find. No.
Sarah:She basically slow walks and catches up with Eli hiding hiding in the playoffs.
Mark:So now we're gonna stop the description of all that which happened and move that to when we deal with their testimonies. Yeah. Because now we switch to scene of the crime, and Sims and Daniel are on the case. Mhmm. And they show up.
Mark:And did you catch the tiny little thing that Daniel Chalmers says about Brokenwood? No. That he had left twenty years ago.
Sarah:Oh, that's right. Because later on, Sims says, how is it how is it to be back?
Mark:Yeah. So we had I completely had forgotten that.
Sarah:He went to the big city.
Mark:Yeah. He went to the big smoke
Sarah:and So you think he would have come back with a higher rank? You would think so. He's a detective constable, right?
Mark:It it usually takes six years in most police forces to get out of uniform if you're really trying four.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:And but maybe he didn't join the police till later on.
Sarah:That's true. It's not like the assumption I mean, how how old can he be? What? 35?
Mark:Yeah. Maybe? Maybe.
Sarah:So he wasn't like a maybe he wasn't an adult when he left.
Mark:Mike arrives and doesn't know what an Xbox is.
Sarah:What does he think it is? He opens the bag and he goes, oh, a VCR or I don't remember what he says. But poor Bernie is face down in his cake on his last day of work before he retires. It's the worst. I mean, everybody talks about, oh, you retire, and then you drop dead soon after.
Sarah:Yep. But, like, on his the day Jan made him a cake.
Mark:Yeah. And Bernie
Sarah:And Bernie's we
Mark:find out, Bernie is salt of the earth. Yeah. Super good guy. Absolutely fantastic. Nicholas goes, yeah, one of the guys was Devin Barnes.
Mark:Totally gives him up right away.
Sarah:Why would you not? Yes. But Nicholas, I was suspicious of. I remember the first time
Mark:They do
Sarah:a really good we watched it. I was sure he was involved.
Mark:They do a good job of showing what Nicholas like, I don't think it's a bad character thing that Nicholas is scared and he runs away.
Sarah:Well, so the robbers are in black suits, black ties, and white shirts. And Nicholas is wearing a very dark navy suit with a navy tie and a white shirt. On black and white CCTV, it would be identical. He could easily slip in the back and put a mask on and join them. He could have easily been part of it, no question.
Sarah:He's not, but he could have been. So it was a good red herring, I think.
Mark:I would say
Sarah:that's And I would completely trust these guys to whack him too hard with a gun when they were not supposed to. Yeah. You know, like they were just supposed to like lightly tap him.
Mark:I would say that's probably friend of the show, Tanya's. Excellent costume work.
Sarah:Yeah. It's thoughtful. Yeah. Because it means that he could be one of them. Yes.
Sarah:You you get to consider it.
Mark:And Devin Barnes has a job though, sort of.
Sarah:Well, he got fired three weeks ago from the Porky Pigeon because he was a delivery driver with no license. What a dummy. He goes and puts on the sandwich board. Like, that's gonna hide the fact that he's selling his shirt and
Mark:tie. First of all, Ray, are you not checking a license before?
Sarah:When you hire somebody?
Mark:When you're hiring somebody. So he's the sign guy now, which he's not, and he has the dog mask in the in the trash.
Sarah:This is how dumb he is. Right? He gets away from the bank, goes to a place where he's already been fired, and I can only think that that sandwich board was set up more like an easel out front the restaurant, and he runs up and puts it on, and then walks in front of the restaurant. Like, at least go inside if you're going to try to hide. He's like, oh, no.
Sarah:I've been at work all morning. The burglary was at nine The Porky Pigeon probably isn't even open yet.
Mark:In addition to all the other things we said, this is another episode in which a group of people think they're way smarter than the cops. Yeah. Much like the Odds family Christmas.
Sarah:Yeah. They're just dumb dumbs.
Mark:The car is left at the scene, so they know whose car it
Sarah:is. Mhmm.
Mark:So they trundle on over to the house of the To see of the old Essie. So did you see Reese Oates is her driving instructor?
Sarah:Why he's qualified to teach anybody anything, I don't know.
Mark:Did you see his card?
Sarah:It was handwritten.
Mark:But you didn't see the detail at the very end? No. It has Reese Oates. It has his phone number. It has driving instructor slash.
Mark:Can you guess what comes after the slash?
Sarah:Ambulance driver.
Mark:Stunt driver. That is a beautiful little nugget that only maniacs get.
Sarah:Maybe he is a good driver. He ends up being an ambulance driver later.
Mark:He doesn't
Sarah:Maybe he's actually good at it. When they do talk to Frodo
Mark:and his coffee cart His name is also Odes. Yeah. Because Christian's
Sarah:I know He's parked in front of the bank. I know an Odes. They're like, well, do you know about Reese? He's like, why would I know where Reese is? Well, come to think of it, he is my brother.
Sarah:Well, my stepbrother, well, half stepbrother. Well, my stepmom married my uncle. What?
Mark:Frodo says this. Frodo says his stepmom married his uncle after she left his dad. Mhmm. We still don't know about Frodo's mom. No.
Mark:We know who his dad is. And now we know who his uncle is.
Sarah:And uncle. We don't know if it's the same There might be more than one brother. Since Frodo's dad is so prodigious He's 13 children by 10 women.
Mark:Maybe
Sarah:We find out.
Mark:We have lots of uncles.
Sarah:There could be more than one uncle.
Mark:I love how that's introduced. Well, he's my brother.
Sarah:Yeah. If anybody wants to take on the project of creating the Odes family tree, go for it.
Mark:Yes. The delivery from Frodo here is fantastic comic timing.
Sarah:When did you see him last? Oh, I haven't seen him for ages. Well, not since this morning.
Mark:Yeah. Just just great line delivery, great lines, and great line delivery.
Sarah:Not as good as when Chalmers goes into the pub for the first time to meet Trudy, and he introduces himself, and she says, didn't you used to have red hair? And he just gives her the look like, I got you. I know who you are now.
Mark:I know everything about you already. Because Sims warns him. She's like,
Sarah:Well, kind of. She wants him. She doesn't warn him in advance. She's like, oh, no, you go talk to her. But then when he comes back, she's like, well, she's never very cooperative.
Sarah:And he's like, oh, no, I got lots of stuff.
Mark:Yeah, she's super nice to me.
Sarah:There's no problem.
Mark:I didn't even have to take my coat off. Come on.
Sarah:How? I mean, yeah, you do the guns, his arms. His arms are so bulky that his little short sleeve shirts, the cuff of the sleeves have a little split in
Mark:them Yep.
Sarah:To accommodate his guns. Yes. Now what I wanna know is if Chalmers went in to see Gina, whether Gina would be as nice to him.
Mark:Well, it would depend if he mentioned pinball and or sex.
Sarah:That's true.
Mark:So we find out that Gina likes pinball, which all good people like pinball.
Sarah:Nothing says tasty pigeon like a giant mangy pigeon. There are so many good lines in this. Oh. Eli, so he he's one of the robbers. He's the one that Trudy chases to the playhouse and, like, breaks his arm and takes her So
Mark:let's cover that part of the story.
Sarah:She has fantastic hair.
Mark:First of all, fantastic hair.
Sarah:How does he fit it in that mask?
Mark:How does he fit it in the mask? And then there's one point later on, really, really low level, he goes, like, almost as an afterthought, goes, you can't see in those masks anyway. I'm like, because your hair is all over your face, dude.
Sarah:We we happen to have a nearly identical mask Yeah. To that mask, and you cannot see out
Mark:of it. You cannot see out of it. Don't ask us why. We have
Sarah:It was for a stage play of the thing. Does that answer your question? Now you know.
Mark:Now you know. So Eli runs away, and he hides in a Wendy house.
Sarah:Poorly. He's doing his best. He's limping and out of breath.
Mark:Because he has Trudy's bag. How Tracy Gray is not laughing. Oh, I'm so excited. Then gets action Tracy. Yeah.
Mark:Right? She breaks his arm and that's
Sarah:She has lessons from prison.
Mark:Like that's like, oh, I don't like Trudy breaking his arm, but he did steal a bunch like her wages are
Sarah:in Yeah. You hear the crunch.
Mark:Yep. It's it's very well done.
Sarah:I think he got off light. She could've done more.
Mark:So Eli runs home after being and and then he's later identified and the cops show up at his house. He's still in the suit.
Sarah:Well, can't change clothes, his arm's broken.
Mark:He can't change
Sarah:I can't imagine how much that would
Mark:But he shoved the dog mask down his pants. Yeah. Which Chalmers pulls out immediately.
Sarah:He's not smart.
Mark:He is told his girlfriend, a porky pie, he's told her that they've won the lottery.
Sarah:She's not much sharper than he is.
Mark:No. And they have gone to the bank to get a loan, but they were refused getting the loan.
Sarah:Bernie was a nice guy.
Mark:He I'm sure Bernie went out of his way to try to get them a loan. Yeah. And I love how it's implied that that he doesn't come across as the sleazy No. Guy at all.
Sarah:They have a credit score. It's a it's a quantitative thing. I'm sure he's not allowed to do it if it's below a certain point, and it is, and he can't do anything about it.
Mark:The ad the address they give for Eli's house is a real address in Auckland.
Sarah:Well Caleb lives on Dead Rabbit Lane.
Mark:Dead 16 Dead Rabbit Lane.
Sarah:Who names a road Dead Rabbit Lane? I do
Mark:not know.
Sarah:Like is that how they name roads in New Zealand? The first thing you see when you walk down it is with the name of it? Well, there's a Dead rabbit on the side of the road. Let's call it Dead Rabbit Lane.
Mark:You have questioned already the Oates family tree.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:I have another family tree that we need to investigate.
Sarah:Okay.
Mark:The Dennis Buchanan family tree. Because he says when they arrive at Caleb's house something about his five year old nephew. Mhmm. Now, if you remember Dennis Buchanan's brother is married to a horse. Yeah.
Mark:How does he have a five year old nephew?
Sarah:I think he's just lying.
Mark:I I guess.
Sarah:He's just making it
Mark:up. Maybe?
Sarah:I'm like because there are no other siblings.
Mark:We know there are no It's
Sarah:just Kim and his brother who's married to a horse. And we say that like, that makes sense in reality. Cause if there was another sibling, we would have found out in that episode and we didn't. So I think he's just making it up. I was like, what?
Mark:Five year old nephew? How did that come about? Next, Kristen gets shot.
Sarah:Yeah. They play that off.
Mark:So they go to Kristen.
Sarah:She gets shot with an assault rifle style paintball gun at about five feet.
Mark:Which would have really freaking She had
Sarah:a giant bruise. I looked it up.
Mark:Oh, absolutely. And it's Kristen. She would have went home and changed.
Sarah:I don't know. She's hot on the trail of a murderer.
Mark:I suppose.
Sarah:It's just a little spot of paint. Though it would be a much bigger spot of paint, wouldn't it?
Mark:It would be.
Sarah:I just love Plus, Crazy Tony is a moron. Last time we saw him, he was wearing a duck hat.
Mark:Crazy Tony has been in a ton of episodes. I keep forgetting that Crazy Tony's been in a ton of episodes.
Sarah:It's most fun to shoot humans.
Mark:I mean, but for like paintball, you know. He's in the duck hunting episode.
Sarah:Yeah. We get that gross scene of Caleb shooting a dead possum over and Yeah. He's creepy.
Mark:Yeah. I don't I don't. Caleb is really weird. At this point in time, I think Dennis answers the phone and he says that he's the barrister to the stars. There are no stars.
Mark:No. Now he should say barrister to royalty.
Sarah:That's true. But he's not. No. We know that he's not. The earl.
Sarah:He's not really an earl.
Mark:We find that Devon's grandfather tried to rob this bank.
Sarah:In 1976.
Mark:And he's reminiscing with him about this and giving him the idea Mhmm. With the world's worst scrapbook.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:So the world's worst Scrapbook on the page before the robbery includes the following headlines on articles. Seal saga continues. Like like aquatic seals? Yes.
Sarah:Okay.
Mark:And then local pumpkin wins.
Sarah:Okay. Why do you think he clipped those news stories for his scrapbook?
Mark:Then it's right to the next page to the article that we've seen before, and that article is full of information including that Bernie was the teller that he took into the bank vault.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:So all that information is in that
Sarah:So like so Kenny's like, I'm gonna make a scrapbook about my failed bank robbery. But on page one, I'm gonna put the headlines from the day before I guess. To remember what life was like before I robbed the bank. I guess. Seals and pumpkins.
Sarah:That that was the biggest deal.
Mark:Then we are transported to the magical world of nineteen seventies. Broken wood.
Sarah:Sideburns and polyester and disco music equal 1976.
Mark:The bank posters have changed. They have a fantastic sort of vintage poster right in the middle where the tellers are.
Sarah:I was alive in 1976. You could almost drive.
Mark:I could remember 1976.
Sarah:You were seven. You were probably seeing movies you shouldn't have on your own.
Mark:Totally got his finger in his coat. Yeah.
Sarah:It's a gun.
Mark:It's a gun.
Sarah:So they take Eli to the hospital under guard, right, from his house because his arm is broken. Yep. And then they got him in the cop shop, and he's got his cast on. Yeah. It's such a good touch.
Sarah:It says love from Snuggie on it.
Mark:Love from Snuggie. Yeah. That's the only thing on the
Sarah:cast. But Sam, his fiancee, girlfriend, pregnant girlfriend, has written love from Snoogee in marker on his arm. And the sling is thin enough that you can read it.
Mark:I know that Eli's probably gonna go up the river a little bit. But
Sarah:I feel bad for Sam. She's gonna have that baby on
Mark:her own. I hope those kids make it. I do. I feel for them.
Sarah:They're not smart enough. I don't know. I won the lottery. You did? Okay.
Mark:Well, he always has a job as a frontline brand ambassador.
Sarah:That's true.
Mark:That is that is such fantastic business school speech right I have to admit that. We we work at a business school here in Indiana, and that is fantastic business school speech because what they are talking about is Eli wears the costume.
Sarah:Yes. Pigeon. Pigeon costume.
Mark:Now, I wasn't sure, but it is the same costume that Ray is shown in in episode one of this series.
Sarah:They give us a little flashback of the one scene of the robbery
Mark:Yes.
Sarah:That is a perfect example of how dumb these guys are. Yes. Two of them run into each other. They collide.
Mark:They almost knock each other down.
Sarah:And I think it's Eli says, go get Caleb. And the other one says, I'm Caleb, and don't say my name, you idiot. Go get Devin. They're they're so stupid.
Mark:They're so incredibly stupid. They also don't close their browser as we'll get to the culprit of the the event.
Sarah:Yeah. So Kenny can open it. But they're on the dark web, Mark.
Mark:No, they're not. They're on supervillain.co.nz. Not a real website.
Sarah:That's the supervillain store? What else do they sell besides plastic masks?
Mark:They sell a dragon mask, green mask, a yellow mask, a clown mask, and a Frankenstein
Sarah:That's just the mask page of supervillain. They're They've got to have like a laser gun page and like a spaceship It's
Mark:all costume stuff like that.
Sarah:Oh, that's no fun. Why would that be on the dark web?
Mark:I don't know. It's not real super villains. They paid way too much for these masks. When they walked up to the the computer to order the masks, I was really scared that they were gonna go to Archie McPhee because you could buy this mask
Sarah:Yeah. At Archie McPhee. Where I got it.
Mark:I think so.
Sarah:I think that's why we have one is that's where I got it.
Mark:Archie McPhee, if you don't know, is the greatest importer of useless crap. Novelty. Novelty.
Sarah:And the Rubber Chicken Museum.
Mark:Yeah. Rubber Chicken Museum, which I went to in
Sarah:Seattle. It's fantastic.
Mark:It is indeed.
Sarah:They they want well, okay. After Frodo offers to be Reese's lawyer and puts on a suit that's five sizes too big for him and brings in a nautical law Maritime
Mark:law Yeah. Third edition.
Sarah:They decide to put all of the culprits in one room together and let them be stupid and out each other, and they do, of course. But at the end, Reese stands up and he says, I peed on my car. Like, there, I said it. I did it. I peed on my car.
Sarah:Which, of course, Frodo has said is totally legal because it was his car, so it's fine. Yeah. It's fine.
Mark:It's okay to do that. How would you know that, Frodo? I know.
Sarah:It's okay to pee on your own car.
Mark:Mike makes a visit to doctor hypothetical. Hypothetically, if this happened
Sarah:I think she's the only doctor in Brokenwood.
Mark:I think so.
Sarah:She runs that whole hospital
Mark:All by herself. She's she's doing scheduling. Yeah. What doctor do you know that you Schedules their own appointments. And we find out that everybody loves Stamps who's 50 in this episode.
Sarah:Men 50.
Mark:Men 50.
Sarah:Because Angelique, Kenny's wife, she's not into stamps. Nope. She's into being on the job.
Mark:And we find that she gave up all that. We find that there are important stamps. Now, is a thing that I think happens, I want you to confirm or deny this.
Sarah:Okay.
Mark:The Devin keeps saying Box 42, Box 40 2, Box 40 2. Mhmm. Right? He says it a million times.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:And when Bernie goes into the to confront, sorry.
Sarah:When Kenny
Mark:When Kenny in to confront Bernie, he asks for box 24.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:Do you think Devin has dyslexia?
Sarah:Kenny's been lying to him
Mark:Oh, okay. All this time? Kenny's been lying
Sarah:to him?
Mark:Abs Okay.
Sarah:He has absolutely set up his own grandson
Mark:Okay.
Sarah:Because he's an asshole.
Mark:Yes. Kenny is fantastically evil. He is He's the worst. He's horrible. Yeah.
Mark:First of all, very first of all, he he doesn't have a good enough relationship with his ex prostitute wife that she can tell him that she's sick.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:And he hasn't even noticed. Yep. He's so self absorbed.
Sarah:He's been faking being more disabled than he is and letting her take care of him.
Mark:Cancer diagnosis like she gets, it's difficult to fake not being sick when you're that sick.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:So that. She's taking care of him. Yeah. Like, he doesn't need any of that. No.
Mark:Like, when they all leave the house, he must be up dancing jigs
Sarah:and Doing whatever he wants.
Mark:Doing whatever he wants. And then he frames his grandson.
Sarah:Yeah. He's just Plants the idea in
Mark:his killing somebody.
Sarah:Yeah. Plants the idea in his head so that he can pull off the caper that he regrets not pulling off.
Mark:Which is some weird, like vanity
Sarah:thing. It's totally vanity.
Mark:And Mike plays into it so well at the Yeah.
Sarah:He does the whole, well, you failed. Yep. Everybody knows, oh, now there's two generations of failed bank robbers in your family. Yep. And Bernie is just doing his job and wants to retire and have a cake.
Sarah:Yeah. And has been sitting on those inverted Kakapo stamps for forty five years.
Mark:And, like, they're his stamps.
Sarah:Yeah.
Mark:And they're his retirement
Sarah:It's not like he stole them from Kenny. No. Kenny was too stupid to realize their value back in 1976
Mark:I'll tell you And
Sarah:left him behind.
Mark:I'll tell you the ultimate stupidity. So Devin wears a wire Mhmm. So the cops are nearby listening. They hear a scuffle and they come running into the house. And in the middle of this intense action scene where we get Action Mike, Action Sims, and and Action Daniel.
Mark:I'm like, wait a minute. There's a box there that says supervillains.com. They didn't even put away the boxes?
Sarah:That's Kenny. Cause Kenny ordered a mask after they did. Yep. He absolutely goads him into confessing.
Mark:Then he goes to grab the gun and action Sims tackles him.
Sarah:I shot myself in the arse.
Mark:I shot myself in the arse.
Sarah:He deserves that too.
Mark:Does indeed deserve that. Mike makes a Nadia Comanichi reference, which Sims and Chalmers are like, who?
Sarah:Yeah. They know gymnasts.
Mark:I don't know. That's nineteen seventy six Olympics.
Sarah:But they get the joke. Maybe. Yeah. So
Mark:Simms almost gets shot twice, she gets shot once.
Sarah:I feel so bad for Devin though. Yeah. Because he wears that wire because he's sure they're wrong about his grandfather.
Mark:They're sure
Sarah:he And they are not wrong. That is so devastating. I mean, he's been raised by his grandpa and his step grandma, you know, and his parents are out of the picture. And this is the person who he's looked up to and he finds out that he was willing to let him go to prison
Mark:And they do murder. Such a good job in this episode of serious and non serious. Yeah. Like let's be honest, this is dog day afternoon, reservoir dogs, snatch all put together.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:Right? With
Sarah:With a big dose of dumb.
Mark:With a big dose of dumb. Right, altogether, and deals with that loss of grandpa in a way that makes you feel sorry for Devin at the end.
Sarah:Well, both Nicholas and Devin have lost their They should be friends.
Mark:Like, Nicholas has a really tough life.
Sarah:Yeah. And he, like Looked up to Bernie, and Bernie was shot Yeah. For no good reason.
Mark:Absolutely not. Greed. No. Ego. And he couldn't
Sarah:Why does Kenny tape the stamps to his chest?
Mark:I don't know. It's like super stamps Kenny.
Sarah:I thought he was gonna open his shirt and have like a bomb under there or something.
Mark:An Xbox.
Sarah:Just the controller taped to his chest with the buttons.
Mark:Okay. So we have a ton to do in cleanup for this episode. Okay? Yeah. So first of all, let's cover some of the after the credits.
Mark:Yes. Okay. Trudy performed by the amazing Tracy Gray goes on and does amazing things
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:With her brother Ray. Yep. Ray's almost a sub character now.
Sarah:Yeah. It's the TV show.
Mark:It's the TV show. So Eli and his girlfriend.
Sarah:Well, let's just talk about the the four burglars.
Mark:The four burglars.
Sarah:Reese, Devin, Caleb, and Eli.
Mark:I think if anybody's not going up the pogie, it's Reese. Right. Right? And we see Reese again in more episodes. So we
Sarah:Devin and Caleb are definitely the most culpable.
Mark:And I think go up the pogie.
Sarah:Yeah. I think they go to prison.
Mark:Yep.
Sarah:Not for a huge amount of time, but for some. Though Caleb's got money, so he may buy himself out of
Mark:it. He also is the barrister to the stars. Yes. So I think that that's the other movie I was thinking this reminds me of. It's very much like Raising Arizona because they don't have deadly weapons.
Mark:Right? So they they're trying to get away from being charged with armed robbery. Because that's the whole pretense of part of raising Arizona is that he doesn't have a loaded weapon, so it's not armed robbery. Right. Also stupid robbery.
Sarah:I don't think Eli's going away for long. Maybe six months or something. Maybe. He's got a pretty minimal part, and they weren't successful,
Mark:you know? And he's got a broken arm to deal with.
Sarah:But Kenny is going to jail for murder.
Mark:Kenny is going to jail for murder and robbery again.
Sarah:Yeah. In in Aggravated robbery.
Mark:The US, it would be felony murder because he committed the murder and
Sarah:While committing another felony.
Mark:While committing a felony.
Sarah:Yeah. And I think Angelique is gonna visit Devin in jail, prison, but not Kenny.
Mark:I think so.
Sarah:She's done with him.
Mark:She's gotta be done with him.
Sarah:She calls him out.
Mark:It does follow the rule that anyone who shows up in a wheelchair in a television episode eventually gets up from that wheelchair and moves around. Unless you're in an Agatha Christie episode where they play on that playing on.
Sarah:They They do the double slip.
Mark:They do the double slip. Sorry for the spoilers for a twenty five year old show, but
Sarah:Sam's gonna have the baby and I think Eli's not gonna be there, but shortly after he'll be there.
Mark:I think so. Will he continue to work as the brand ambassador?
Sarah:Maybe he'll get a new job as a brand ambassador.
Mark:Well, we don't see much of Ray's establishment anymore.
Sarah:The Porky Pigeon?
Mark:We see the boxes. Yeah. But we don't see
Sarah:the put more of his entrepreneurial focus on the pubs.
Mark:Yes. And making them aspirational. Yes. I know we're hitting this pretty hard, but just to give you an indication of Tracy's maniac behavior, she posted on her Instagram all posters in the latest episode of season eleven, all the posters that were in the pub. Nice.
Mark:Like close ups of those posters.
Sarah:Thanks Tracy, that's helpful to us.
Mark:I'm like,
Sarah:Yes please.
Mark:Dennis Buchanan goes on to be the fantastic Dennis Buchanan.
Sarah:Race goes on to be an ambulance driver after he does any time. I don't know if he does any time.
Mark:I think Dennis Buchanan's in every season. Maybe. I think so. Chalmers goes on to be excellent, popping his guns.
Sarah:This is another episode where there are firearms and Mike says no thanks. Yes. He always turns down a gun.
Mark:Yep. He always does. And Chalmers like, okay. I'll get two fisted now.
Sarah:Well, he came from the big smoke.
Mark:He comes from the big smoke.
Sarah:He knows about violence.
Mark:He knows about those gangs and things.
Sarah:So that is dog day morning.
Mark:Wow.
Sarah:What's our next one? What's season seven episode four?
Mark:Season seven episode four is entitled something nasty in the market. Oh. Which I think is a direct reference to the book and movie, which is Cold Comfort Farm, which if you haven't seen it, is fantastic. Rufus Sewell. Rufus Sewell, Ian McKellen.
Mark:Yeah. It's Everybody. Just fantastic.
Sarah:It's such a good movie. I can't say anything about the story of the book whenever didn't read it, but the the movie is fantastic.
Mark:But the line is repeated several times in the movie and the book, there's something nasty in the woodshed. Yes. Until the greatest comeback line of all time is said back to that, that she had seen Something Nasty in the Woodshed. So I think it's a direct reference to that. It's a farmer's market episode.
Sarah:Mhmm.
Mark:So there are all sorts of fun things to go along with that.
Sarah:So what have we learned from this episode? We've learned don't do bank robberies with morons.
Mark:Yes. We've learned that an Xbox is not a bomb. Yes. We've learned that when you steal things, tape them to your chest.
Sarah:And don't try to steal from Trudy because she will get you. She will kick your ass. Chase you all the way to the Wendy house, all the way to the playhouse, take you down. Alright. Until next week.
Sarah:Bye, maniacs.
Mark:Bye, maniacs. Thanks for joining us on the mystery maniacs podcast. If you enjoyed our crazy podcast today, don't miss out on future episodes. Follow us on social media for updates, beyond the scenes content, and exclusive sneak peeks. Subscribe, like, and share to spread the word.
Mark:Bye, maniacs. We find out that Nicholas' grandfather tried to rob this bank.
Sarah:No. Devin.
Mark:Oh, sorry.
Sarah:Nicholas is the bank teller.
Mark:Okay.
