Episode 09 - "Blood Will Out" - Hangry Tom, Juggalo Smith, and Cabbage Soup Sweats
Summary
In episode nine, we travel into town in our wagons full of thoughts on Season 2 Episode 4 , "Blood Will Out". Hangry Tom is confronted with a missing goose, a murder half way through the episode and a bunch of people telling him what to eat. Where's my Mars Bar?!If I can't have my friends over anymore, I think we should split up.
Speaker 2:I think
Speaker 3:so. When we say stuff like that, I just know that you're gonna extract that little bit of funny voice, and you're gonna put that right at the beginning of the podcast.
Speaker 2:Yes. That's what we're gonna do. I know you do.
Speaker 3:Welcome to Midsummer Maniacs episode nine.
Speaker 2:Hey, maniacs.
Speaker 3:Hey, maniacs. Tonight, we are covering season two episode four, Blood Will Owe.
Speaker 2:The last episode of season number two. And just as a reminder, if you let your kids watch the show, they can listen to the podcast. But if the show is too much for your kids, it's probably too much for the podcast.
Speaker 3:How many how many little kids do you think like Midsummer Murder?
Speaker 2:We finally we just broke in according to the statistics to the 18 to 22 market. We finally got some listeners down there.
Speaker 3:When we break into the 12 to 15 market, that's when I'll be excited.
Speaker 2:That's that's the midsummer slash Fortnite crossover podcast.
Speaker 3:That's right. Yeah. We gotta work on that one.
Speaker 2:Before we begin, we get news.
Speaker 3:News. News. Yeah. We should have a sound effect.
Speaker 2:Yes. We should have some sound effect for news. So we're recording on this on the September 9, but it goes live on the September 23.
Speaker 3:Maybe if you have news, you should do it like the Kermit the Frog. No. I went a little Kermit, but what I was trying to think about was the the old British newscasters that did it in, like, the American English, you
Speaker 2:know. Today
Speaker 1:on the waves, there was a boat Yes. And a war and a queen.
Speaker 2:Look at our go. Are you sitting comfortably? Then we'll begin.
Speaker 3:So what's the news?
Speaker 2:So first of all, October 1, Midsummer me Midsummer Murders will be leaving Netflix.
Speaker 3:On the first?
Speaker 2:Yes. This is a huge talking point on
Speaker 3:Kerfluffle.
Speaker 2:It is full on kerfluffle. But just remember that Acorn, Amazon Prime, and Pluto TV will still have Midsummer Murders. And Pluto TV is the where they have the channel that shows nothing but Midsummer Murders.
Speaker 3:Twenty four seven, baby.
Speaker 2:Sweet.
Speaker 3:All for free. You can't choose what episode you're gonna see, but they just keep rolling by. Also,
Speaker 2:the official Midsummer account on Facebook teased us on the September 5 with official Midsummer Murder t shirts. Merch. Merch. These included, one has a picture of the village. One has a phrase that says, I'm dying to visit Midsummer.
Speaker 2:One has, don't you think I look cool in my brand new Midsommar Murders T shirt? One way off in the background says, my blank went to Midsommar, and all I got was this blank. I don't know what it says exactly.
Speaker 3:Hopefully, these are, like, first draft of the shirts.
Speaker 2:But the one that I want is there is a picture of one that has a badge on it. And if it has a badger on it, that's the one I'm buying first.
Speaker 3:A badger on the midsummer badge on the it's the Costin PD. Yep. Right? The Costin Constabulary. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Constabulary. The CC.
Speaker 2:And finally, the biggest news of the week is you need to get ready for Midsummer Murders season 21 coming to Acorn TV December first.
Speaker 3:December. It's not that far away.
Speaker 2:It's not that far away. And we will have watched all of the episodes we can by December 1.
Speaker 3:We're so bad when something new comes on TV that we're really excited about. Like, oh, we can't wait. We can't wait. We're we're gonna ration them. We're gonna watch like one episode a night.
Speaker 3:Just one a week. One a week. Yep. And then we just watch them all. And then we're like, oh, we've seen them all now.
Speaker 2:Let's start again. I suggest that maybe we livestream those episodes when they come out.
Speaker 3:Oh, like we record our responses to them as we watch them?
Speaker 2:As we watch them. We might we might live tweet them. We could experiment. We could see. Something if we still have a podcast by the December 1 and we're saying those are two checks in the box in my opinion.
Speaker 3:Or maybe we should gogglebox it and and put up a Twitch channel of us watching Midsummer.
Speaker 2:I would I would also be up for that. I could easily set that up where you would watch us watching Midsummer on Twitch.
Speaker 3:Nobody's that lame. I'm so grateful for every single person who listens to our podcast that I would not put them through that.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh. The next week,
Speaker 3:the numbers would just drop.
Speaker 2:That would be so strange.
Speaker 3:We have to come up with all this funny stuff because this episode wow. Oh. There's just there's nothing to be excited about
Speaker 2:about this I gotta say that there are home runs in this show. Badger's Drift is a home run. You know? I I would
Speaker 3:Death of a Hollow
Speaker 2:Death of a home run. I would even say Strangler's Woods is a home run. This is a bad bunt anything.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So it was filmed in June 1999, May and June 1999. Now I wanna shout out to Midsummer Locations on Instagram for setting us straight because we got some of the times that shows were filmed wrong. So for example, remember when we had the All The Problem with the cult episode when because we said it was filmed in the winter, and it was
Speaker 3:clearly not the winter. Because the foxgloves were in bloom.
Speaker 2:So Midsommar locations on Instagram figured out what happened. Originally on Instagram, the shows were listed in production order, and then somebody reordered them in broadcast order.
Speaker 3:You mean on, like, Wikipedia? On Wikipedia. You said Instagram. Okay.
Speaker 2:Well, that he's from Instagram. He or she, that person who runs that account. And they reordered them in broadcast order but didn't change the filming order thing.
Speaker 3:So So there wasn't some scene setter running around with fake foxgloves No. Jamming them in the frozen ground?
Speaker 2:So the Midsummer locations Instagram account sent me a list of all the right times and dates, and I absolutely appreciate. That's fantastic.
Speaker 3:Thank
Speaker 2:very much. It was broadcast on the 09/19/1999. I can't believe we're not even into the twenty first century of this show yet.
Speaker 3:Nope.
Speaker 2:And it had 9,990,000 viewers.
Speaker 3:Or 10.
Speaker 2:No. 9.99. This episode, we'll get into it. But this is the first episode directed by a woman, Mora Armstrong. She's a Scottish TV director.
Speaker 2:Fantastic trailblazer in the industry. So I was so excited that a woman had directed this. And then I was like, the directing is okay, but
Speaker 3:The writing.
Speaker 2:And then, written by, speak of the devil, Douglas Watkinson. This is his first Midsummer.
Speaker 3:I know how that went. Right? We talked about this. Yeah. He had a list of ideas.
Speaker 3:He's like, travelers. Yeah. We ought to include those. And the Falklands. Yep.
Speaker 3:Yep. Yep. That all be
Speaker 2:Falklands and the Travelers. Oh, wife swapping. Wife. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yes. Wife swapping. Yeah. And we'll make it boring.
Speaker 2:How can you make wife swapping boring? They managed to do it in this episode.
Speaker 3:And we'll cram all three of those topics into one episode. Everything together with geese. And all of it will be red herrings.
Speaker 2:And so many extras.
Speaker 3:Yeah. It's a big cast.
Speaker 2:It's gigantic and includes Midsummer Juggalo.
Speaker 3:You gotta wait for that. Don't don't give that away.
Speaker 2:Okay. Let's do this, baby.
Speaker 3:I can't stop laughing every time I think about Midsummer Juggalo. He's in there.
Speaker 2:Okay. Cold open. It's beautiful.
Speaker 3:We're in Martyr Warren. Yes. Martyr Warren. Even have Midsummer in
Speaker 2:it. It doesn't even have Midsummer in it. We have a horse and buggy coming up the road. It's Travelers. Right?
Speaker 2:Yep. Orville Tudway. Then for some reason, costumer said, let's make honeysuckle weeks look horrible. Yeah. How can we do that?
Speaker 2:Okay. Well, she's a beautiful 20 year old girl. Pantsuit. Yeah. Okay?
Speaker 3:And and a pink helmet that looks more like a horse riding helmet than a motorcycle helmet.
Speaker 2:Well, what else could we make that pink purply color? The pantsuit. Yeah. Because you always match your helmet to your pantsuit.
Speaker 3:Well, she is kind of a richie girl.
Speaker 2:Oh. Just
Speaker 3:Riding a janky moped.
Speaker 2:That moped is jank. Totally jank.
Speaker 3:And I I agree with you. I don't even think it runs. I think somebody added the folio in afterwards. I think it's like that's a that's a moped.
Speaker 2:Somebody in the background go.
Speaker 3:And she rolls down the hill.
Speaker 2:This is Orville Tudway. Yes. And he meets up with Peter Fairfax who runs the store. Takes no checks.
Speaker 3:No. No checks. They take no checks.
Speaker 2:He says, I got a letter for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So Peter's got a letter that was sent to the grocery store for Orville, and it was he it was received a little bit after Easter.
Speaker 2:And Orville reads the letter, freaks out.
Speaker 3:But what time of year is it now?
Speaker 2:They don't say.
Speaker 3:Like how long has Peter had this letter?
Speaker 2:Probably at least a couple months, I would think.
Speaker 3:Because he's clearly dying to know what it says.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Like as soon
Speaker 3:as Orville opens it, he's like right there over his shoulder like, oh, what's it say?
Speaker 2:Can I see it? I see see it? I it?
Speaker 3:But all that time, he's just kept it next to the register, just not opening it.
Speaker 2:And Orville
Speaker 3:You would have opened it.
Speaker 2:I would have opened it two seconds Had the
Speaker 3:kettle out, storming that baby Orville who?
Speaker 2:Mhmm. The letter freaks out Orville. And then he's full on voice over crazy talk. Yep. Where he goes, it's bad news for somebody.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. And then we're back to the watercolors. Yeah. We we had no watercolors in season one, and then we have them for the first two episodes episodes of season two.
Speaker 2:For the third, and then they're back. I
Speaker 3:don't think there's a a secret conspiracy of watercolors, though. I don't think there's any meaning to whether they're there or not.
Speaker 2:I think it's a matter of do we have stuff that we can show the titles over?
Speaker 3:Yeah. They they needed some b roll, and they didn't have it, so they had to put the watercolors in.
Speaker 2:Yep. And I think but I think this is the last time we see the watercolors.
Speaker 3:That's what you said last time.
Speaker 2:I was wrong.
Speaker 3:And we cut from the awesome watercolors to the torture of Tom.
Speaker 2:So Tom needs some new clothes.
Speaker 3:His pants do look a little tight.
Speaker 2:And we are shown Tom in tight pants quite closely. It's There's
Speaker 3:Tom crotch.
Speaker 2:Full on Tom crotch. Yeah. Cully asks for another size. Now the Francis Lee plays the shop assistant.
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And as soon as Gavin gets there, which on rewatching last night, I was like, how does Gavin know they're there?
Speaker 3:Yeah. Oh, hi, Gavin.
Speaker 2:Like, Gavin has no idea that they're there. He's just wandering the streets of Costin and goes into a store. Look. It's the Barnaby's.
Speaker 3:You know, I don't know. Because in this episode, Joyce and Cully have been brain swapped with some possessive over controlling women aliens.
Speaker 2:It's the diet episode. I wouldn't use the
Speaker 3:price. By now. If they texted Gavin and said, come here. No human. Tell him his pants are too tight.
Speaker 2:This diet would not work on any human being.
Speaker 3:No. I mean, you might lose weight, but until you ate a meal.
Speaker 2:Like, I'm surprised Barnaby didn't go hangry here. Well, he's got
Speaker 3:He's hangry the whole episode.
Speaker 2:I think so.
Speaker 3:Because he's living on cabbage soup and raw vegetables and He's hangry. Yep. He he is aggressive in this episode.
Speaker 2:Wow. So he's like, whatever. You know, on my size, I'm off to Marks and Sparks. Marks and Spencer.
Speaker 3:You can't blame him.
Speaker 2:No. Definitely not. And also, they're like, you've been eating too many canteen lunches. Learn to cook, woman. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Really?
Speaker 3:What are his options? Is he gonna take leftover sheep neck and stewed grapes for lunch?
Speaker 2:And they're all like, diet. Like, they all agree upon it. I'm like Except him. Does Tom get a say in this?
Speaker 3:I'm disappointed in Tom. The fact that he goes along with it. Just why he doesn't put his foot down. Especially because he's hangry. The whole time.
Speaker 2:Okay. Fleur goes to get her thing fixed, her moped fixed, and it's codally implied that her and Will Saxby are doing something.
Speaker 3:Yeah. But he's her dad.
Speaker 2:He's her dad. And his wife Muriel. Current wife. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Muriel's all jealous.
Speaker 2:He's all jealous. You're jealous about spending time with your daughter? Apparently. I guess so.
Speaker 3:But there's this weird thing. So Orville's kind of like, I don't know, he's like a legend, apparently.
Speaker 2:I guess so.
Speaker 3:He comes back to town on a somewhat regular basis, maybe an unpredictable basis because he certainly knows plenty of people who live in Murder Warren. And when he shows up, it's like, Orville's here. Orville's here. Hey. Hey.
Speaker 3:Orville's here. It's like you expect there to be a dance number on the street. Yeah. Orville's back in town. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So he he pulls his wagon up in Will and Muriel's pasture. And Will's all like, sure, you can stay. And Muriel's like, I don't know. But then when they're talking to him, they're petting his horse.
Speaker 3:Like they're being made to pet his horse. Did you notice that?
Speaker 2:They're okay.
Speaker 3:They've got dialogue, but they're like pet pet. I pet
Speaker 1:the horse. I pet like There's
Speaker 2:so many animals. There's so many animals and so many extras in this episode. It I I think they lost some of the plot by having so much going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like, just the fact there's at least four different horses.
Speaker 3:Oh, plenty. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And sulkes and all sort oh,
Speaker 3:just just There's no sulkes.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's what they're called. The the chariots.
Speaker 3:No. I thought a selkie was a a Celtic water horse that drags people into the water.
Speaker 2:I'll look it up, but I think that's what they're called. They call them chariots. Yeah. And I thought I thought Barnaby was making fun of them calling them chariots. But that's what they somebody else calls them chariots later on.
Speaker 3:Okay. So we're already talking about the chariots. Okay. There's something I gotta know about them. Okay?
Speaker 3:When you ride one of these things so this is the two wheeled cart Yeah. That they race behind the horse.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:Sit with your feet wider than you do at the OB GYN.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:Okay? Behind a horse Yes. That's running. Yes. How do you not get horse shit in your face?
Speaker 2:Okay. First of all, usually horses when when they need to relieve themselves are not running. Okay. Okay. Second of all, it's not horse crap that you're gonna get in your face.
Speaker 2:It's all the mud from their hooves. Yeah. You're just covered with And
Speaker 3:and your legs aren't even out in front of you to kinda block it. Nope. I I don't know why their legs have to be so akimbo as they're riding on those things.
Speaker 2:It's what they like to do.
Speaker 3:I didn't grow up on a farm. You grew up on a farm. I'm just saying it looks a little messy. I don't wanna ride him one of those chariot things.
Speaker 2:Speaking of Orville, he arrives while the Saxby's are fighting. Just walks in the door.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Bad moment?
Speaker 3:Mhmm. You haven't seen me in years or whatever.
Speaker 2:He suggests that he's gonna bring one or two friends. And then he looks directly at the camera. Yeah. And goes, like,
Speaker 3:you know it's gonna be more than one or two. Right? Yeah. You're in
Speaker 2:a Like, I was almost ready for direct address at that point in time, which is never happened in Midsummer Words. No.
Speaker 3:If anybody should, it should be Tom looking at the camera going, I'm hungry.
Speaker 2:Please send bars, boss. Feed me. So then we meet Fleurs' parents, Hector and Tricia, who are just awful.
Speaker 3:No. It's Hector and Jenny.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right.
Speaker 3:See, you're doing it too.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's so hard to keep track of.
Speaker 3:This episode with all the wife swapping and all the extras and all the red herring parts, the names get all screwed up.
Speaker 2:It's it's because this episode is a soap opera of red herrings.
Speaker 3:Yeah. There are not enough murders. I'm It's the young and the red herring? Yeah.
Speaker 2:It is. Right. Not enough murders, and there's too much crap going on in the background.
Speaker 3:Like, Hector gets killed, and nobody cares. They're like, good. Anyway, on with the show.
Speaker 2:On with the show. Fleur wants to go to America and basically blackmails her mother because she knows that her and Orville are wanting to do the
Speaker 3:Rumpy pumpy?
Speaker 2:Rumpy pumpy. Casual sex. What's that smell is the next thing that's asked. And that smell is cabbage soup. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it to eat oh, god.
Speaker 3:It looks like kale soup.
Speaker 2:It oh my gosh. He's allowed to eat as much of it as he wants, and they give it to him for breakfast and dinner. No human can exist on cabbage soup alone.
Speaker 3:No. No. It's cruel. And Joyce is cooking it. So it's probably worse than just cabbage soup.
Speaker 3:It's probably bad cabbage soup, which is saying something.
Speaker 2:And it's fresh fruit day. So he can have all the fruit he wants,
Speaker 3:but no bananas. Because there's a whole another day just for bananas.
Speaker 2:And Troy drops a joke there, and it just clunks. It's a clunker.
Speaker 3:So okay. Tom is Troy's boss. Yep. How does Troy think he's gonna get away with policing what his boss eats?
Speaker 2:Apparently, it's how it's done in England.
Speaker 3:Just let one of the people who work for me try that. And we'll see how long that lasts.
Speaker 2:That's no. No. But Troy also arrives with a story of a stolen goose.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:And it's like this episode is like, we'll we'll we'll have a stolen goose, and then we'll tell goose jokes.
Speaker 3:What's good for the goose is good for the gander. See? Wife's Look at all
Speaker 2:those goose jokes. Yeah. Oh, gosh. Shut up. This episode, the goose being stolen is taken directly by hot fuzz.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah. I love Troy trying to count the geese too.
Speaker 2:Counting animals is tough. I have had to count animals in my life, and it is one of the toughest things I've ever had
Speaker 3:to But but it it plays like it's supposed to be this hilarious joke that Troy is trying to count these geese. And doesn't he look stupid? It just
Speaker 2:falls flat. And did you notice that Fleur is like all over him? Oh, yeah. Like and I'm like
Speaker 3:In every scene that they're together.
Speaker 2:I'm like, that's weird. Like
Speaker 3:He's young. She's young. She wants to get out of there.
Speaker 2:I guess. But ugh. In any way she can far in the background, it's not even interesting.
Speaker 3:Well, that's how he gets distracted from counting those geese. You know, there's a pretty young thing back there. So It's so blech.
Speaker 2:Hector blames Todwell, and he says he's a diddy koi, a word I'd never heard before. Well, I've seen this episode a bunch of times.
Speaker 3:I never paid any
Speaker 2:attention pay any attention to
Speaker 3:thought they're travelers.
Speaker 2:It's a in Britain, it's one of a group of caravan dwelling roadside people who are not true Roma. They're half blood. Yes. Diddy koi.
Speaker 3:They're half muggle. I guess. Half gypsy.
Speaker 2:The the geese can't fly away because their wings are clipped, so Barnaby suggests they walked.
Speaker 3:So I looked up Diddy Koi on the urban dictionary. Yep. Because I really wanted to know when you encounter a term like this, you gotta know, is this an offensive term and I just don't know it? Yeah. Cause I don't wanna drop it if it's actually an offensive term.
Speaker 3:And Urban Dictionary is great for that kind of stuff. Yes. Because it doesn't say that anything's offensive. You just assume that it is because it's on there. But the examples are always great.
Speaker 3:Yes. And the example sentence, one of them for Diddy Koi is like, dang, that Diddy Koi done stole our geese and our batteries. Our our diesel and our batteries.
Speaker 2:Her pigs are a geese.
Speaker 3:Yeah. It's it actually comes from a Romanic term. It's like Diddy Kai, which is it's like a term of like respect, but it's been bastardized. Yeah. When I first heard it, I I thought maybe it was Puff Daddy's body double.
Speaker 2:Maybe. Diddy Koi. Get it? Yep.
Speaker 3:Puff Daddy.
Speaker 2:That's a better joke than Troy made.
Speaker 3:Diddy. The entire episode. I almost dislocated my shoulder reaching for that one so hard.
Speaker 2:So the traveler camp is getting full with an invasion of travelers, and Troy and Barnaby are off to see what's going on. Yep. The Saxby's do nothing but fight. Whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And
Speaker 2:he asked them what he had for dinner. And he literally goes through the most luscious description of goose dinner
Speaker 3:you could have. Tom's like licking his lips.
Speaker 2:Tom's like, I'm so hungry.
Speaker 3:And bread pudding too. Was it good? Can I can I have is there any left?
Speaker 2:Nope. None left. Troy's over there.
Speaker 1:No. You can't have anything good.
Speaker 2:None for you, cabbage soup.
Speaker 3:And they talk a little bit about people don't like Hector. Somebody even tried to kill him Yep. Six or seven years ago. And Tom says that was before my time. Which was weird.
Speaker 3:Where was he six or seven years ago? I don't know. Not in Costin, apparently.
Speaker 2:He would have been in Costin. He he it's just The question
Speaker 3:is where did he transfer from? Maybe he was in the hustle
Speaker 2:and bustle London. Continuity. Oh, no. Remember, he's in MI 5. He just Oh, that's right.
Speaker 2:That's
Speaker 3:that's a later episode.
Speaker 2:Missus Dinsdale arrives and says, all these people have to go.
Speaker 3:And this, dear listener, is the scene in which, if you look very closely,
Speaker 1:there is a juggalo in the background. He's got crazy
Speaker 2:hair. He doesn't have the face makeup, but that's only because they took it off him.
Speaker 3:And and somehow, this is the second time that we've managed to mention insane clown posse in our Midsummer Murder podcast, and it makes sense.
Speaker 2:I will post a picture of said Juggalo Smith.
Speaker 3:I thought that lady in the back row of the Ramblers meeting had crazy hair. Oh, no. But this kid has her top. Or maybe this is her son. Maybe.
Speaker 3:Because they have the same kind of like
Speaker 2:Pokey hair.
Speaker 3:Pokey bunches all over. I'm just thinking if you're a traveler and you don't have regular access to like a nice hot shower Or hair gel. The last thing you're gonna do is put a whole bunch of tacky gel in your hair and spike it up. That kid can't even lay down. No.
Speaker 3:Except on his face. Yeah. Because it goes out in every direction.
Speaker 2:Maybe he should lay down.
Speaker 3:I'm so excited about the Juggalo in the background because there's so little else of interest in this episode. Anyway, sorry.
Speaker 2:Missus Dains Dinsdale's upset. What about the ones by the church? They go off to look at the church. And and
Speaker 3:Oh, no. Wait. Troy is kinky.
Speaker 2:Yes. Well, no. We haven't got there yet.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's right. Because that's the other traveler group at the church.
Speaker 2:The Smiths.
Speaker 3:You're right. Smiths.
Speaker 2:So there's two things okay. Two things that bother me about this episode because there's a lot more than two things, but two things. It's they don't understand Troy and Barnaby. First of all, they talk about the Bixby ladies, like her looks. They evaluate her based on her looks.
Speaker 2:Saxby. It's Saxby. Sorry. Not Bixby. It's not Bill
Speaker 3:Bixby. Muriel.
Speaker 2:You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. The Hulk would make this a better episode.
Speaker 3:Who talks about Muriel's looks?
Speaker 2:Troy does. He goes Well, he goes half bad given her age.
Speaker 3:Yeah. He he says that kind of stuff all the time.
Speaker 2:And when we get to the second one, I'll bring it up. But I stand by that they don't understand Troy.
Speaker 3:And The the writer? Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 2:So he's eating fruit. He gets his apple. Someone's crying in the churchyard, and they figure out that he prob Orville probably stole the goose from Hector as to taunt him.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then there's like this weird Pink Floyd reference about bricks and walls and stuff.
Speaker 3:There's this ongoing metaphor of a wall, of of little bricks of of wisdom that Troy should be building a wall with.
Speaker 2:And it's part of his education. Yeah. And again and again, they don't know them.
Speaker 3:No. That's not the kind of thing they say.
Speaker 2:I wonder if they've watched the show.
Speaker 3:Well, they clearly have decided they being the writer of this episode has clearly decided that Tom is a hen pecked husband.
Speaker 2:Who who
Speaker 3:just rolls over
Speaker 2:Who just rolls over.
Speaker 3:To the women in his life.
Speaker 2:And then sneaks like, would not do that.
Speaker 3:No. He'd eat a Mars bar right in front of them and say, I want it, so I'm going to eat it. Yes.
Speaker 2:We find out that everybody in the second camp, last name is Smith. It's a way to avoid prosecution. Right. So we get Including Juggalo Smith.
Speaker 3:So we get John Smith, grandfather of Michael and Rachel Smith, who are brother and sister.
Speaker 2:And they call Troy kinky. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Which we find out later why they call him kinky.
Speaker 2:Which Troy is all upset about being called kinky. It was kind of out of nowhere. It was kind of out of nowhere, but, like
Speaker 3:If somebody walked up to you and said, hi. I'm Michael Smith, perv. You'd be a little perplexed, wouldn't you?
Speaker 2:How did you know that about me?
Speaker 3:You just met me. There are
Speaker 2:other things in this camp, including the guy with the acoustic guitar and the acid washed jeans.
Speaker 3:Who just seems to be there to strum and and stare off. Just ugh. All of the extras. Because it's when they get to the Smith camp, they kinda circle around. Right?
Speaker 3:They circle around Tom and Troy. And as the camera changes angle, you see weird extras in the background. And yeah, this is you're right. This is where we get Juggalo Smith back there.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 3:But the people in the background are trying so hard to look suspicious and it's kind of sketchy and sneering and yeah, yeah. And they're trying so hard.
Speaker 2:And there are just so many of them. It's to be honest, the frame is crowded. Yeah. And I think that is one of the problems of the episode.
Speaker 3:Yeah. But is there are they trying to establish some kind of cultural difference between Orville's travelers and the Smiths? Think they are,
Speaker 2:but I don't think it comes through.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Orville's wagon is classy.
Speaker 2:And breaks up the kids. Yeah. And he has good kind words to say say to everybody when they
Speaker 3:teaching them how to ride horses. Yep. And they seem to have that kind of traditional sort of traveler culture and community. Yeah. And then the Smiths are more seen as like these kind of traveling kind of roustabouts
Speaker 2:They're criminals.
Speaker 3:Looking for little jobs here and there and like Yep. Yeah, committing small crimes. And they're clearly not supposed to be the kind of classy traveler that Marvel's gang is.
Speaker 2:Nope. They all figure out that they're gonna be here for something on Saturday. Yeah. On the way back, Barnaby notices the flowers where he saw the man crying earlier. And then Troy, who is very full of himself at this point, says, We're on a wild goose chase.
Speaker 3:One of us had to say it.
Speaker 2:And it's like, he's dropped another clanger. Like,
Speaker 3:just But Tom's reaction is even kinda like, Yeah. I knew when you weren't obviously, you're gonna say that.
Speaker 2:So they go back to the station, and they find out that somebody tried to run over Hector Bridges seven years ago. And he was found by his wife at that point in time, which is Muriel.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. Who's now Will's wife.
Speaker 2:Will Saxby's wife was originally married to Hector. And Hector's wife was originally married to Will Saxby. Making Fleur Will Saxby's daughter. Yeah. And Jenny's daughter.
Speaker 2:They make wife swapping boring. I don't know how they managed to do it, but
Speaker 3:they do. I don't know why they would have ever swapped in the first place.
Speaker 2:I don't know why any of those people married each other in the first place.
Speaker 3:Who would want to be married to Hector?
Speaker 2:Well, you know who I wanna be married to? I wanna be married to Troy because he cuts up the apples to make them look just like chips.
Speaker 3:It's so convincing.
Speaker 2:Tilly Dinsdale calls again. Mhmm. Now, like, at this moment, I'm like, this is another sister figure who all she does is call the cops on people.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And she's like the third wheel with her sister and her sister's boyfriend or spouse. And she's a nudge and a hassle.
Speaker 2:Which is what the lady from the cult was supposed to be. Yeah. But she's charming and interesting. Yeah. And this lady is annoying.
Speaker 3:And the rambler sister.
Speaker 2:Yeah. The rambler sister.
Speaker 3:Who cut the puzzle pieces up couple episodes ago.
Speaker 2:So we find out Felicity, her sister. So Tilly and Felicity are sisters.
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And she's Felicity is knocking boots with Peter Fairfax.
Speaker 3:The grocer. Yep. Knocking boots and playing Scrabble.
Speaker 2:Tilly's gonna It's
Speaker 3:not Netflix and chill.
Speaker 2:Tilly's gonna call Hector and and Fairfax says Peter says, Hector only makes things worse.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Because Tilly's convinced that Hector's like this stand up guy who gets things done.
Speaker 2:It's just more soap opera. Yeah. It's just more soap
Speaker 3:opera. Because he's all bluster.
Speaker 2:Yep. We're back to the Barnabas, more cabbage soup, and Barnaby goes to bed.
Speaker 3:And wakes up with cabbage soup sweats when the phone rings
Speaker 2:in the middle of night. Sweaty. Like, what what did they do to him?
Speaker 3:He's he's hangry and going through withdrawal for food. And Tom's got the cabbage soup sweats in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1:Poor man. He Wakes up. Fleur's on the phone pretending not to be Fleur.
Speaker 2:But it's clearly Fleur. Yeah. The travelers are gonna get beat up by Hexer and his bunch of boys.
Speaker 3:So now, not only do we have Didicois, we have Squatties.
Speaker 2:Squatties. Yep. And Fleur is calling, and she's at the Saxby's.
Speaker 3:Diddy coys, squatties, and waft wife swappers. Oh my.
Speaker 2:I can't even say So these are squatties. They're military people in military clothes.
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:This is highly illegal. You can't just call out your squatty buddies to go beat up other people.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Because though Hector is retired and and his friend who seems to be kind of organizing the rest of the guys looks to be of retirement age. The rest of them look rather young. So you could only guess that they're maybe active duty or maybe they're like
Speaker 2:I would assume they're active duty.
Speaker 3:Reserves kind of.
Speaker 2:Something.
Speaker 3:But they don't just have their old uniforms. They have access to military vehicles.
Speaker 2:Well, luckily, their vehicles drive up, there's nice bright lights.
Speaker 3:Yes. Hector's house is lit up. Those motion sensor lights are obnoxious.
Speaker 2:They're on, they're off. It makes no sense at all. No. Troy goes, we need some backup. Because he's not ready to fight a bunch of squatties.
Speaker 2:And Barnaby has a plan for that. And he goes in, and this is this this is real Barnaby here. Yeah. Because he goes in, and he says, we have some news about your goose, knowing full well what's going on.
Speaker 3:It's like distraction distraction. Yeah. Okay. You're gonna make me put the hammer down? I'll put the hammer down.
Speaker 2:Here's the hammer. And Hector goes, isn't it time for you to turn a blind eye? And Barnaby says, I don't do that. No.
Speaker 3:And Hector has a bat.
Speaker 2:A rounders bat.
Speaker 3:So what's the difference between rounders and baseball?
Speaker 2:Well, it's an ocean. That's the difference. I think there's different rules, but it sure looks like a baseball bat to me.
Speaker 3:The bat is the same. Yeah. The game may not be the same. But Hector is like, ball bluster. And Tom's just like, don't make me call it armed response.
Speaker 3:He's like, well
Speaker 2:We'll have armed response here in twenty minutes. And Troy's like, okay. Yeah. And
Speaker 3:he's like, I guess we gotta call it off then. They don't have an armed response unit. Oh. Wouldn't Troy know that?
Speaker 2:I would think Troy would know that.
Speaker 3:Because there have been some times when they could have used an armed response unit. Anna Massey with that big knife.
Speaker 2:Yeah. No. No. We have constables with pokey sticks, but no armed response unit. Right.
Speaker 2:Another thing, and this is Greenland here, but when they leave, it is clearly daytime.
Speaker 3:Yeah. When they're packing when the Squatties are packing up.
Speaker 2:They just have a blue filter over everything to make it look like night. And Hector's standing in front of the window, and there's a morning sunrise that you could clearly see.
Speaker 3:So now Tom has not eaten real food for over twenty four hours.
Speaker 2:And not slept well.
Speaker 3:He's been woken up in the middle of the night to go deal with a pompous ass.
Speaker 2:Who likes Barnaby. His wife likes Barnaby.
Speaker 3:And it's only gonna get worse.
Speaker 2:Yep. So right in the middle of an argument between Hector and Jenny. Jenny, she goes, you want some tea? And he goes, yes, please.
Speaker 3:But I really think we should get divorced. I mean, really.
Speaker 2:Like in the middle of divorce, like, oh.
Speaker 3:And and his ultimatum is, you know, I used to have my friends around a lot and then and then I didn't anymore. And and if I can't have my friends around, I just think that, you know, this just isn't working. She's like, okay. Yeah. Like what kind of ultimatum is that?
Speaker 2:It's just poorly written and poorly acted.
Speaker 3:No. He's an asshole. That's what the problem is. I mean, ultimatum isn't, you know, I don't feel like we connect anymore. We don't do enough together.
Speaker 3:He does say we used to laugh. Yeah. But we don't do enough together. And if we're not interested in spending time with one another, maybe we shouldn't be married to each other. That's one thing.
Speaker 3:That's not what he says.
Speaker 1:No. If I can't have my friends over anymore, I think we should split up.
Speaker 2:I think so.
Speaker 3:When we say stuff like that, I just know that you're gonna extract that little bit of funny voice, and you're gonna put that right at the beginning of the podcast.
Speaker 2:Yes. That's what we're gonna do. I know you do.
Speaker 3:And if you're listening, if you don't listen to the very end of our episodes, Mark always puts a little Easter egg at the end of the music at the end of the episode. So if you're not listening to that, you're missing out.
Speaker 2:There's there's some gems back there.
Speaker 3:Then Troy says, the didicoids have gone berserk.
Speaker 2:No. No. Before the didicoids have gone berserk, you have probably the best filmed, most useless scene in the entire show. You have Fleur and Orville who get to eat sausage, who doesn't get to eat sausage. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Barnaby doesn't get to eat sausage. Never. Oroville's got extras, but he doesn't get one. No. The content is irrelevant.
Speaker 2:It's filmed in this very moving camera way in which there's slow pans from right to left.
Speaker 3:You got the campfire kinda crackling. Campfire. A little bit of smoke coming up.
Speaker 2:And it moves in from mediums to close ups. You're supposed to feel that there is some emotional connection going on here.
Speaker 3:Flora's supposed to be learning a life lesson from Orville.
Speaker 2:And until the very last line, there's no life lesson there. No. The last line is we're going nowhere. We're not going anywhere, but you should be.
Speaker 3:Have a sausage.
Speaker 2:Have a sausage.
Speaker 3:Then it's Saturday.
Speaker 2:And the Barnabas are going to Blenheim Palace.
Speaker 3:No. They're
Speaker 2:not. No. Because the didicois have gone berserk.
Speaker 3:And it's just as well they didn't go because if they had gone to the Butterfly House at Blenheim Palace, Tom may have tried to eat them.
Speaker 2:Nom nom nom nom.
Speaker 3:They're like chips.
Speaker 2:Because he's just completely out of control.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Obviously, that's why they have to regiment his food so tightly because he has no self discipline.
Speaker 2:On the way to the horse race, Troy runs off the road and they just leave the car there. It makes no sense.
Speaker 3:Because three of the chariots go across the road. It's like, well, I guess the event must be somewhere around here. Let's just park here.
Speaker 2:No. No. No. They did not park. Troy ran off the road.
Speaker 2:He's in the ditch, and they just leave the car there.
Speaker 3:It's because Tom is so grumpy. He's like, god. Just give up. I just So Maybe if I can get Troy out of car by leaving it in this ditch, can get back in and get my candy bar.
Speaker 2:We have the chariot race, which is like a fate. Yeah. And somebody online corrected us today that it's not fed, it's fate. And they're right. It's a fate.
Speaker 2:But it's all illegal stuff. There's like Betting and booze and hooch and All sorts of crazy thing and Morris dancers and blackface and feathers.
Speaker 3:We looked it up.
Speaker 2:They're not in blackface sorta, but with the tradition with the reputation this show gets later on, this is not good.
Speaker 3:My favorite so I looked at several articles and I know you did too, trying to find out the origin of this blackface for these Morris dancers. Because the other Morris dancers we've seen didn't have that on.
Speaker 2:Nice white shirts and everything.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Well, and all these Morris dancers seem to have on sunglasses too. Yes. Which I don't remember seeing before. And and there's, you know, there's kind of a back and forth about the origin of this face paint and whether it's a racial thing or not a racial thing.
Speaker 3:Whether it's just hiding one's identity for the dance and that, you know, it has a different meaning. But my favorite was an interview with one lady who wears the black paint but only across like her nose and her cheekbones.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Like a stripe across her face. And she says she only wears it on part of her face because her daughter-in-law is African American and she doesn't wanna insult her.
Speaker 2:I'll give you an easy way to not insult her. Don't put black on your face.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there is that.
Speaker 2:That's just a simple little rule.
Speaker 3:So if somebody else out there has a more definitive answer for why some Morris dancers wear the dark pain on their face, we'd love to hear it. Because everywhere I looked, for every argument, there was a counter argument somewhere else that disagreed with it. I couldn't find a definitive source anywhere. So Troy does a little
Speaker 2:dance with the with the dancers.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:There are all these people from the village there, more than travelers. Yeah. Right? So this is like a party that everybody knew about. Now I'm Hector, and I'm grumpy.
Speaker 2:My wife has just suggested that our marriage is probably over, and I bet I'm not getting that tea. Okay? So I'm upset. So what am I gonna do? Let's go to the traveler's race.
Speaker 3:So where is this being held? Is it being held on Will and Muriel's pasture? It's
Speaker 2:not I think this is at the church.
Speaker 3:As we'll establish. They're on top of each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah. The church, Muriel's, hectares, and the saxpies all live on top of
Speaker 3:each other. Yeah. They're very
Speaker 2:Literally in one case.
Speaker 3:Yeah. They're and Tilly. Tilly and Felicity. They're all very, very close to each other.
Speaker 2:Okay. The stick in the mud club is there with Hector and missus Tillsbury or whatever. Felicity?
Speaker 3:Yes. She's got her gloves on.
Speaker 2:And why did they even come just to yell at Barnaby?
Speaker 3:Well, I think I think Felicity Dinsdale would have enjoyed it.
Speaker 2:Oh, I think she came because Peter's there.
Speaker 3:Right. But Tilly, her sister, yes, she's there to be a grump and to complain. Hector's And there to be a grump and complain.
Speaker 2:Stick in the mud club.
Speaker 3:I have to tell you something about Felicity Dinsdale.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:She's played by Phyllida.
Speaker 2:Phyllida. Okay.
Speaker 3:Phyllida Law is her She's Emma Thompson's mom.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's nice.
Speaker 3:And she's been in everything.
Speaker 2:Well, of course she has.
Speaker 3:And she's had the same hairdo.
Speaker 2:Of course she has.
Speaker 3:Always. I love her in Kingdom.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:If you haven't watched Kingdom, it's Stephen Fry. It he plays a lawyer in this little coastal town.
Speaker 2:It's not a mystery show.
Speaker 3:No. It's so good. Just like a nice warm day. Yep. Peaceful show.
Speaker 3:Yep. It is. Kinda northern exposure y.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I would say exactly the same.
Speaker 3:She plays his aunt on that show. And fill it all out. She's just a she's just a great actress. But but she always has that. It must be in her writer that she has the same hairdo.
Speaker 3:Yep. She's gotta have that big bun.
Speaker 2:Hector goes home. He's upset. And I have a note here, thirty one minutes and no bloody murder. He goes home and he fingers his guns. I don't understand why he puts his gun.
Speaker 2:Like, why he gets his gun out and loads it.
Speaker 3:Because he's a bully. He's like, well, I ought to go down there with my shotgun. Well But he knows that's patently illegal. He's not gonna do it. So he puts it down, and he starts drinking instead.
Speaker 2:And Orville shows up and says the letter. John Lampson's letter. Read it. Read it. And we find out that Orville was in the army with Hector.
Speaker 3:They were in The Falklands together.
Speaker 2:So the race is on. Tom even places a bet. $5.
Speaker 3:He's happy to turn a blind eye to
Speaker 2:And the gun goes off. Barnaby loses his bet. Oh.
Speaker 3:Tilly hears the gunshot. Muriel hears the gunshot.
Speaker 2:Yep. Hector's dead.
Speaker 3:Without his belt on. Yes. Muriel found him.
Speaker 2:George is back, but he doesn't do much in this episode.
Speaker 3:No. Except get to the crime scene incredibly fast with his whole They
Speaker 2:don't know how to write George either.
Speaker 3:He's been dead less than an hour and the whole crew is there and Tom is just showing up even though Tom was just right there.
Speaker 2:Thirty four minutes into this episode before death, I gotta say, it's a disappointment.
Speaker 3:Yep. And the killer stole a wine cooler.
Speaker 2:A wine cooler with 40 k.
Speaker 1:It's silver. Yep. It's old. It's fancy.
Speaker 3:It looks more like a punch bowl.
Speaker 2:How could we find a punch bowl?
Speaker 3:Let's poke the grass with sticks.
Speaker 2:Constables with poking grass sticks. Yes. Because you
Speaker 3:don't know. Maybe it's tiny.
Speaker 2:Maybe it's no. Maybe they buried it? Maybe? I don't know.
Speaker 3:With the shepherd's pie?
Speaker 2:And why are they all clumped together?
Speaker 3:They're very close together. If you're doing a fingertip search for a tiny piece of evidence, that makes sense. But I don't they didn't really have any reason to think that there was any evidence in the grass. No. But they had those extras.
Speaker 3:Were already in uniform and they'd already given them sticks.
Speaker 2:Sure have those sticks.
Speaker 3:Somewhere there's
Speaker 2:some because this this episode needs more extras.
Speaker 3:Somewhere there's some blind people wishing they had those sticks.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Okay. I gotta cut that
Speaker 3:chunk. Maybe all those constables are blind, and they're not looking for anything. They're just walking across the grass, and you're making fun of them. You're cold.
Speaker 2:I am. I'm cold. Muriel heard the shot.
Speaker 3:You're gonna cut that joke? Is that an insensitive joke?
Speaker 2:I I don't know. Muriel heard the shot and saw a man leaving that she describes as he has hair and is of a height.
Speaker 3:You got you gotta give her credit, though. Okay? So Elizabeth, Garvey, who plays Muriel, you gotta give her credit because she's acting like someone who is a bad liar.
Speaker 2:That's true.
Speaker 3:And that can't be easy to do. Yep. Because it's so clear that she's making it up as she goes along.
Speaker 2:And, like, okay. Forty minutes into this episode, Barnaby does a show off here Yeah. Where he's like, I figured this out. You used to be married
Speaker 3:to you, and you used to
Speaker 2:man Dead. And you used to be a goose.
Speaker 3:And how did you know all that? How
Speaker 2:because I have a brain.
Speaker 3:I'm just showing off. I'm just showing off.
Speaker 2:Travelers can't leave. They gotta stay on.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:And they search Orville's caravan. No gun. No wine cooler.
Speaker 3:Don't forget, Muriel was also there to report when Hector got run over by the car. Yes.
Speaker 2:However Convenient. There's no recreation of that crime. I'm so distracted by that crime.
Speaker 3:I would have liked to have seen Hector almost get run over. He that would have been nice.
Speaker 2:I
Speaker 3:don't know. He deserves everything he gets.
Speaker 2:But Barnaby has a plan. You, Troy, search the rest of I'll search the rest of these vans. Troy, you go see the Smiths. Without a warrant. Because then I can enjoy my Mars bar.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And then they go and confront well, they he goes home and then Cully, you know, who's She's just the hint, the clue dropper.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, by the way dad, while I was auditioning for my commercial that's not a tissue commercial, I thought I would tell you that Stephen Miller or Stephen Miller, who works at the grocery store
Speaker 2:He's a good guy.
Speaker 3:He's a good guy, but he swore
Speaker 1:he would kill Hector no matter
Speaker 2:what. Red herring. Yeah.
Speaker 3:She just, like
Speaker 2:That's what they should be feeding
Speaker 3:Barbie. He should be on fish.
Speaker 2:He should be on red herring because there's lots of it in this episode.
Speaker 3:When they go confront Peter in the grocery store, Tom is epic hangry.
Speaker 2:He is. And he smacks his hand down on these magazines, and it's made clear that he's smacking magazines. And I still don't know why.
Speaker 3:There's a close-up of his hand. Yeah. And I just thought, he kinda needs to trim his nails.
Speaker 2:There's that whole scene
Speaker 3:And there's that
Speaker 2:tries to be funny. Dome mirror Yeah. They can see them coming in the
Speaker 3:store. Ugh. What happened? When we find out that Stefan did three months in jail for stealing a motorbike, and Hector, who was a magistrate, like a local judge, sentenced him to three months in jail. Yep.
Speaker 3:Which is a pretty extreme sentence for a young kid, first crime.
Speaker 2:He also sentenced him to a red herring. Yeah. Because that's what he is.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So they're like, but you're Peter and you're the grocer, so you must know everything. He's like, I don't know anything.
Speaker 2:So we're gonna go to Stefan's house. And we head over to Stefan's house, which is the darkest house in the world.
Speaker 3:Stefan is a poor kid.
Speaker 2:He can't afford electricity. No. He doesn't have any lights in his cottage. There were there were times in this episode, in this cottage, I was like, I have no idea what's going on.
Speaker 3:Who is that? Who's fighting?
Speaker 2:Who's punching Who's going on? It's so dark. Where's Rachel? She's in the bedroom because this entire part is a soap opera. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But you work for the family business, tarmacking paths.
Speaker 3:That that little scrawny girl, she's the muscle of the operation apparently.
Speaker 2:Keep away from Rachel. What? There's too many characters, too many interactions, and too much soap opera.
Speaker 3:And so Rachel and Stefan are like Romeo and Juliet, you know, the forbidden love that just started the day before when he asked her to the movies.
Speaker 2:Yep. And now And now she's They
Speaker 3:cannot be separated.
Speaker 2:Can't be separated.
Speaker 3:Yeah. She'll she'll alienate her entire family, and she's known nothing but them, but Stefan, the grocer's boy.
Speaker 2:So Peter and Felicity are playing Scrabble. Tilly
Speaker 3:comes in. So happy together.
Speaker 2:Tilly comes in, and Peter asks Felicity about Tilly and Hector. And there's a nice scene here where she's listening to them talk about
Speaker 3:her Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And about how She had a thing
Speaker 3:for Hector when they were younger, but Hector liked Felicity.
Speaker 2:Until and Felicity would have never let her get anywhere near
Speaker 3:Hector.
Speaker 2:Hector, and she accuses Barnaby, which is the best joke in the whole episode.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I know who killed Hector. I bet you it was that Barnaby. Hardy, hard, hard.
Speaker 2:Well, Tilly goes to bed, but she is awoken by the dark pig wrestlers.
Speaker 3:The pig wrestlers. Big wrestling. And they they that may be the best scene. I know you like the scene of of Fleur and Orville at the campfire, but that silhouette Yeah. Of the Rustlers at the top
Speaker 2:of the hill. The Rustlers.
Speaker 3:It's all backlit.
Speaker 2:It's a nice scene.
Speaker 3:Nice shot. Maybe that backlight is from Hector's safety light.
Speaker 2:Maybe. Maybe. Because his bright Like the piggy looks great.
Speaker 3:But it's like a Three Stooges scene up there. And then Peter shoots one
Speaker 1:of them. He's like, I got that one.
Speaker 2:Barnaby arrives the next day because he's called over and says that shooting thieves is illegal. It's clearly not a story in America. And then plays around with the Scrabble letters. And the second time we watched this, I was like, okay. I'm so discertened by this episode.
Speaker 2:I'm like, you didn't put your Scrabble board away from the night before?
Speaker 3:What are you, children? Meanwhile, I'm like obsessed with that giant pipe on the wall in Felicity's kitchen. Every time they cut to it, that big wide pipe with that big pipe strap on it. I'm like, what's in the corner? Does it lead to like a furnace or is there a fireplace?
Speaker 3:Or is that a heating element over there? Like what needs an exhaust pipe in the kitchen? Why would they put it at that angle and on the wall instead of
Speaker 2:in the And the
Speaker 3:same time Wow. This scene is boring.
Speaker 2:Barnaby moves the the tiles on the Scrabble saddle, whatever it's called.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. On the rack.
Speaker 2:I love NT, which I immediately thought, like, Windows NT? Because I'm an IT nerd. Too violent. Done. Barnaby would never do that.
Speaker 2:Why not? Because he he
Speaker 3:In his hangry state, he is not himself.
Speaker 2:I it's no excuse.
Speaker 3:Okay. If you fed me nothing but cabbage and raw vegetables for three days, I would be the one wrestling
Speaker 2:his fruit day.
Speaker 3:Chewing on them. We
Speaker 2:go off to Costin Woods to find Saxby.
Speaker 3:Well, don't forget. This is when Felicity tells Barnaby, there's something of the knight of Hector.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes. Something of the knight. Children of the knight. Children of the knight.
Speaker 1:Like, Hector was a vampire.
Speaker 3:That would mean it good.
Speaker 2:That would have made it more He's not
Speaker 3:really dead. He wakes up in George's in George's morgue. Yeah. That would have been a better episode. It
Speaker 2:have been a much better episode. They go off to Cottonwood, and Troy trashes the car yet again.
Speaker 3:They're all looking at you, Troy. And laughing. It's like this clear flat kind of pasture. And Troy manages to find the one, like, one by one foot sinkhole for the tire of the car.
Speaker 2:He cannot keep the car on the road. He cannot do it.
Speaker 3:And so this is this is supposed to so so Will is a a a forester. Right? Yep. And so he's at work. This is him at work Yeah.
Speaker 3:In the forest.
Speaker 2:And by the way
Speaker 3:Not
Speaker 2:really. Hector was a brazing floor. Yeah. Like, he just drops it like it was nothing.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Why wouldn't somebody said something before? Anyway and then Muriel just appears. Like, she psychically knows when people visit her husband at work.
Speaker 2:I got I gotta I gotta agree.
Speaker 3:Do you have that power?
Speaker 2:I I do.
Speaker 3:Are you gonna appear at my workplace one day?
Speaker 2:If the cops show up, yes.
Speaker 3:You just flip up here.
Speaker 2:Up here.
Speaker 3:In your Range Rover.
Speaker 2:Yep. Let's go see Fleur. Barnaby goes, Hector never touched you. Like, like, did they not not I don't know.
Speaker 3:Me so sorry about that later.
Speaker 2:Saxby and Jenny realized that something's on, and suddenly Muriel's like, at least Hester should be fun. What what fun could Hector be?
Speaker 3:Son. So we know that Hector abused Fleur. We find out later that he he beat her.
Speaker 2:Right? We know that Jenny, Muriel, Will, Orville are all in on something.
Speaker 3:Yes. But why does Jenny stay married to him?
Speaker 2:I do not understand.
Speaker 3:When she knows that he's abusive, because he must beat her too. Yeah. And he he admits that he hit Muriel for a lot less than this. Right?
Speaker 2:So and then Muriel's sticking up for him and not in
Speaker 3:a Why would she even
Speaker 2:abused wife.
Speaker 3:Yeah. She's like, oh, but he used to be fun. Like,
Speaker 2:what? Just
Speaker 3:ugh. We saw nothing redeemable about Hector. Nothing.
Speaker 2:Nope. Nope. Nope. But they have an idea. Yep.
Speaker 2:We run into Fairfax at the church. Hector killed his wife while
Speaker 3:his This is the second time that we've seen Peter in the graveyard. The first time we just kinda pan across him and there's just a gray haired guy sitting on the bench. Yep. And now we know it's Peter. And he's looking at some lily of the valley Yeah.
Speaker 3:He's planted over his girlfriend's ashes.
Speaker 2:And he has a this is a good scene in the sense that he says, I didn't kill him because I found a new love in my life. Yeah. He has felicity now.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So he doesn't have to be angry anymore. Yep.
Speaker 2:Aw. Back to the travelers camp, old man Smith has taken a knock to the head.
Speaker 3:Yep. John Smith is dead in his trailer.
Speaker 2:John George, are you put Tom, are you putting on weight?
Speaker 3:It's just so heavy handed. Like, who would say that? And Troy, yeah, at a murder scene. The body's still warm. He hasn't been dead an hour.
Speaker 3:Are you getting fat, Tom? No. We're in a tiny trailer, George.
Speaker 2:Oh, look. What's in this box? Red herrings. Hair jewelry. Oh, look.
Speaker 2:What's in this cupboard? Red herrings.
Speaker 3:Wine cooler. I had so I was curious about this. So I knew that so he opens the box. We see this this really fine delicate jewelry made of human hair. And of course that's why John Smith said that Troy was kinky.
Speaker 3:He was talking about his hair. His hair's not kinky. Maybe he's got a little bit of a wave. No. Maybe.
Speaker 3:I've got kinky hair.
Speaker 2:I have kinky hair. Anyway,
Speaker 3:so we know that John Smith makes this very fine jewelry from human hair.
Speaker 2:It's gorgeous.
Speaker 3:Now this is not a new thing. Right? No. It's been around for a long time. The Victorians were well known Yep.
Speaker 3:For making hair mostly from dead relatives. It was a way it was a memento of somebody dead. Yep. And that made me curious because I thought, wow. These people are supposed to be at least part Romani, so they're Eastern European.
Speaker 3:And I I didn't know if that tradition existed in that part of the world too. Yes. And so I started the Googling, you know, and looking it up and everything.
Speaker 2:We're so gonna get in trouble with our Googling for the show. Making jewelry from human hair.
Speaker 3:No. It's not really that weird. You'd be surprised how many people do it now. And of course, so big in the Victorian era. Yep.
Speaker 3:A huge deal. And the so the first interesting thing I found was that not only were there instruction books on how to make things out of human hair, but they used to sell kits Oh. In the Victorian era. Everything you need except the hair. Oh.
Speaker 3:Ain't that nice?
Speaker 2:Nice of them. Yeah.
Speaker 3:So you just gotta go, you know, pluck some from your sister or whatever.
Speaker 2:Where is this?
Speaker 3:But there still exists in England, this Victorian Hair Workers Society.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Though I have to tell you, I don't think their website's been updated since 1997.
Speaker 2:They have a website.
Speaker 3:That's what it says at the bottom.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 3:Apparently now
Speaker 2:I have to link to that in the
Speaker 3:show notes. It's a great website. Apparently Why
Speaker 2:are we getting all these hits?
Speaker 3:Yeah. Hair work is suddenly becoming a really big thing. But the people who run it not only support the preservation of Victorian hair jewelry and Memento Mori, that kind of thing, but they also sell horse hair
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:For the making of this jewelry.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:So you can now make, which I think is just cheaty because a horse's tail, the hair in a horse's tail is so much bigger than a human hair. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's just, that's just Cheaty.
Speaker 3:It's like knitting with like great big heavyweight yarn.
Speaker 2:But that fact alone is more interesting than anything in this episode.
Speaker 3:I don't know. There's blood spatter coming up.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3:It's not missus Bundy level blood spatter, but it's there.
Speaker 2:Okay. They go off to see Steven, and there's a big fight. Stefan, there's a huge fight in the dark again.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Michael's like, what are doing with my sister? You got a guy.
Speaker 2:You killed my grandfather.
Speaker 3:And then grumpy Barnaby's gotta break it up.
Speaker 1:Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.
Speaker 1:Stop. I'm so hangry. I'm gonna chew on one of you if you don't stop fighting.
Speaker 2:And they figure out that there's a different time for the shot than what Muriel's telling them.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So they claims it was at 03:15, but Tilly's like, oh, I really I maybe I could have done something if I had only when I heard the shot at 03:00 during the race.
Speaker 2:Right after the race started. Yeah. So they go over to the Saxby's and go, you have a day to figure out your alibi. What cop would do that?
Speaker 3:You know that question that you can't answer now because you don't remember? Well, you
Speaker 2:I'll give you some time to think about it.
Speaker 3:You better remember by later. Thanks, cop. No problem.
Speaker 2:They call Todwell's old army buddy and talk to his wife?
Speaker 3:Yeah. Okay. No. You gotta hold on a second. Because so the Ministry of Defense has not been helpful.
Speaker 3:Right?
Speaker 2:Which I don't understand why the Ministry of Defense would not be helpful. I I understand that the falcon's war might not have been a very positive or
Speaker 3:And maybe they would be helpful, but not on the three or four day investigation timetable of Midsummer Murder. Nope. Right? Where things happen rather fast.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:So but they do have a list of the people who were in the unit that Orville and Hector were both in. And Barnaby says, I don't care. Just pick one.
Speaker 2:Just call anybody.
Speaker 3:Call any of them. And Troy just happens to choose Lampson.
Speaker 2:Just happens.
Speaker 3:And then he's looking at the at the map trying to figure out which of them they should visit, and he says everybody I know lives on the edge of a page. Yeah. Again, this kind of weird
Speaker 2:It's just strange.
Speaker 3:And Tom says, well, that guy lives just far enough away. We ought to call before we go. Yeah. But we ought to call before we go. Yep.
Speaker 3:And they get his widow instead. Yeah. And that's when they find out the key to the entire relationship between Orville and Hector, which again, red herring. But
Speaker 2:Was that the name of their unit in Argentina?
Speaker 3:But if Troy had picked anybody else
Speaker 2:It would have been a different story.
Speaker 3:They wouldn't have known what was up between the two of them.
Speaker 2:Yep. So they go confront Orville, and he tells the whole sad story without a flashback. Nope. Would have been interesting if there was a flashback.
Speaker 3:They would have had to get what's her name from the cult to pretend to be a military officer in the Falklands.
Speaker 2:Some something. Just, ugh.
Speaker 3:Here I am in our
Speaker 2:Well, we can't do that because it would require too many people and too many other things. Like every other scene in this episode. Horses and stuff. Travelers are off, but not Orville. He's staying around because maybe he's a Daisy.
Speaker 2:Where did you even get any indication of that, Troy?
Speaker 3:Troy's just making stuff up.
Speaker 2:Just insert silly Troy statement here. It doesn't like, Troy is smarter than that.
Speaker 3:So Barnaby uses the last bit of his energy from not eating real food to climb all the way up to the top of the church tower.
Speaker 2:And set Troy up there.
Speaker 3:Yep. Troy steals his candy bar.
Speaker 2:But here's the second part that I say is not Troy and Barnaby. In the glove compartment where the Mars bar is supposed to be, there is clearly the enlarged bosom of a young lady Nipple. From page three, including a nipple. Yeah. That's not Barnaby and Troy.
Speaker 3:Folded to that page. Yeah. Folded open to that page.
Speaker 2:That is not Barnaby and Troy. No.
Speaker 3:They wouldn't have that in their
Speaker 2:fucking They're not those kind of guys. No. Remember, Troy gets the comic book and pets it. Yeah. They're not page He watches X Files.
Speaker 2:It's it's just no. They're not page three guys. It just I hated that part. And plus, Barnaby should go Bill Bixby at that point. Give me my Mars bar.
Speaker 3:Well and and Peter's grocery store is right there. You could just go in there and get something
Speaker 2:Just get something.
Speaker 3:Whenever he wants. But instead, he goes to Felicity's farm and gets the ghetto.
Speaker 2:Oh. He gets the good stuff. We find out that Hector was abusive after some drinks, And Troy is a psychic phone man phone person
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Because he knows Barnaby's eating.
Speaker 3:He can tell.
Speaker 2:And Barrie says banana and hangs up. That was that's Barnaby.
Speaker 3:That was a good line. So why do you think Felicity is, like, touching Tom's hand?
Speaker 2:I don't know. It's so weird that both Jenny and Felicity have this crush on Barnaby. It's weird.
Speaker 3:Maybe he just comes across as needing to be taken care of.
Speaker 2:Maybe because he's so weak with hunger. Hungry.
Speaker 3:His clothes are now falling off of him. The scene where he goes and gets in the car after leaving Troy and Church Tower Yep. His suit looks like they've put a suit on him that's, like, two sizes too big.
Speaker 2:It it stopped making sense. He's in the big suit.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. He that that's a talking heads reference. Right?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:Okay. Some of us wouldn't know Yes. The name of the document. The talking heads in the giant suits. Yes.
Speaker 3:Yes. He's in his giant suit. But she's, Phyllis said he's touching Tom's hand and he's like, I don't care, lady. You can stroke my hand as long as I get this cake. Yep.
Speaker 3:Do whatever you want.
Speaker 1:Gatto. Just get away from my gatto.
Speaker 2:Give me my gatto. They pull in Fleur and the Bixby's to to Police station. Police station only so that Jenny and and Orville are left alone.
Speaker 3:I didn't really wanna talk to you anyway.
Speaker 2:Then why don't watch a five minute scene of it?
Speaker 3:Can you imagine if the police pulled you into the station with your spouse and your child and grilled you, and then at the end went, I didn't really wanna talk to you anyway. No. I just wanted to get you out of there. Now Jenny has a giant house all to herself. It's an estate.
Speaker 3:It's a man's.
Speaker 2:With many rooms. Huge. Big, bedrooms with beds.
Speaker 3:But she goes to Orville's little wagon to do the rugby Yeah. The shagging wagon to do the rugby puppy. Like, I get I don't know. Maybe she associates the house with Hector or maybe it's just a little, you know, badness doing it in the wagon.
Speaker 2:I guess.
Speaker 3:But if I was given the choice, I think I would choose the giant house over the little wagon.
Speaker 2:I would think so. And we forgot something because it's completely irrelevant. The whole Michael and Rachel and Stefan ending thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah. That that John said to Stefan, instead of confronting him said, I don't want Rachel to live this life. I want her to have a better life. Are you gonna take care of her? And then when the Smiths leave the village.
Speaker 2:Oh, save me shopkeeper boy.
Speaker 3:Michael stops and Rachel heads for twenty four hours? With no bags, no luggage, no belongings. They're travelers. They don't need bags. Then why do they have a big caravan full of stuff?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 3:She's gonna stay with Stefan.
Speaker 1:Bye. Bye, they
Speaker 2:wave. They put Jenny in the cell overnight.
Speaker 3:But Troy's face, when he pulls back the little curtain of Orville's wagon, it's like, They're
Speaker 2:at it. I
Speaker 3:got you. Like, wouldn't he have known from, like, 30 feet away if the wagon was rocking a little bit? Like, did you really have to pull the curtain back and be like, I see you. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So it ends up that Kelly wasn't selling Kleenex. She's selling co chocolate cake. It's not good. It doesn't taste good. And Barnaby's like, I beg to differ.
Speaker 3:And that commercial is so bad. It's so bad. I'm having a dinner party, and I got all this food from this great place that does carry out. And here's the food, and here's the food, and here's the food. But what he doesn't sell is dessert.
Speaker 2:No chocolate ghetto. No. And then she just sticks her finger her fork in the cake.
Speaker 3:Bad hostess. Bad
Speaker 1:hostess. Bad hostess.
Speaker 2:Orville and Jenny are in the interrogation room, and she falsely confesses to killing Hector. Yeah. I was obsessed with the sign behind them. It says, a couple of drinks never stopped him driving. The dead girl will.
Speaker 3:Bum bum bum. But that's the kind of drunk driving posters they had in the nineties.
Speaker 2:Yep. Jenny heard Rowe take the slag and run. Troy has arrested the wrong person because
Speaker 3:Yeah. Because Hector has never been a grocer bully than he was in the scene that we didn't see until now. Yeah. The way he talks to Orville about Jenny and Fleur.
Speaker 2:And they talk they stop Fleur from getting on the plane.
Speaker 3:She's going to Milan.
Speaker 2:She's going to Milan. And we see the reenactment and blood all over Fleur's shirt. Yep. The blood from the last episode where there was no blood. We now have blood everywhere.
Speaker 3:I don't know why I have a hard time wrapping my brain around this that Hector can physically abuse Fleur. She's not a child. Yep. And one would presume Ginny doesn't have a job. No.
Speaker 3:Right? So she's home. Why would she have never stopped him from beating her daughter with a belt? Yeah. And why would Flor have ever let him?
Speaker 3:She's 18, she's over 18. She could have left. She could have gone to live with her dad who's like what two feet away in his house. Yes. Why she didn't get out of there?
Speaker 3:I mean I'm not trying to like blame blame a victim, but she seems gutsy enough to not put up with it.
Speaker 2:To be when she gets a gun in her end, she ends it.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And she and she has options. She's not beholden to him. Unless she's really just money grubbing to try to get her ticket to America, and she's willing to put up with it. But that's not worth it.
Speaker 2:It makes no sense at all.
Speaker 3:No. Why Ginny would have put up with it, why Fleur would have put up with it, why Muriel doesn't say don't marry him. He's an evil abuser.
Speaker 2:Yep. And we find out that John Smith was killed on accident by Will Saxby who was planting evidence.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Oh, well. Whatever. Does Barnaby look like a red trouser man to you?
Speaker 2:And then they apply him with food and then thank God the episode is over.
Speaker 3:Coco Van and bread pudding. And Tom is like, yes, please. Can I have some more food, please?
Speaker 2:So to sum up, probably best episode ever.
Speaker 3:So who who's the better corpse? Hector or John Smith? I'd say John Smith. I'd say so too.
Speaker 2:Just because I hate Hector.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I don't wanna give Hector anything. And Hector didn't even really get blood on him. He was shot in his vest. Yeah.
Speaker 3:But Hector but John had to pretend to have a big head wound. Yeah. And all those people had to step over
Speaker 2:There was some makeup going on there.
Speaker 3:They at least had to like smoosh his head with some fake blood.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 3:And he had to lay there while George like straddled him and Tom was fat
Speaker 2:and even I know it's sad that Fleur was being abused, but she committed murder. Mhmm. Even in self defense. Okay? Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Will Saxby killed another man, planning evidence. Mhmm. Muriel knew everything. Yep. Jenny knew everything.
Speaker 2:Yep. Orville. Muriel lied to the police.
Speaker 3:Orville knew everything.
Speaker 2:Orville knew all of those people should go to jail. Yeah. Every last one of them, jaily jail jail jail.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And then maybe the writer. Maybe. For this horrible episode.
Speaker 2:Yep. They didn't learn anything from the last episode in which they had waited years to get revenge.
Speaker 3:That shopkeeper holds up the red pants, and Tom should just grab them
Speaker 1:and just chew on them. I'm so hungry.
Speaker 2:And and this is such a letdown after, like, this second season has some great episodes in it. It's got Death's Shadow
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Strangler's Woods, and Dead Man's 11. Like, that is a great lineup heading into your last episode, and you get this episode.
Speaker 3:That's why it was only 9,990,000 people who watched it.
Speaker 2:I I think maybe nine total people should have watched this episode.
Speaker 3:What's the first episode of the next season? Give me something to look forward
Speaker 2:It's Death of a Stranger is our next episode. And that's the one where Barnaby goes on vacation, and the other guy takes over this the case. Yes. And he's so frustrating. Yes.
Speaker 2:And Barnaby's like
Speaker 3:That's a good one, though.
Speaker 2:Yep. It's got it's got horses. It's got tramps, and it's got fox hunts.
Speaker 3:Yep. Oh, and the fake fox.
Speaker 2:Yep. No. No. This is not the one with the fake No.
Speaker 3:No. No. That's right. That's right. So Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's right. This is the hunt.
Speaker 2:We have that one next season.
Speaker 3:But but wait but wait. The little old lady who lives in the woods in the next episode, I think she lives in Orville's wagon.
Speaker 2:Yes. I think so. The next then we have blue herrings, which is the the great episode with the old ladies.
Speaker 3:So if you listen to this episode of our podcast and you got really tired of us saying, oh, this episode of Midsommar sure did suck. It was so horrible. Tune in for the next one because it does get better. It does. And we won't just whine about how bad is.
Speaker 2:Still, you know, so much better than so many other shows.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah. Oh,
Speaker 2:yeah. But it's a low point. It's not the worst episode yet. Well, it's the worst episode yet, but it's not the worst episode ever, I don't think.
Speaker 3:So here's another kind of controversial thing. And I'm gonna controversial thing. And I'm gonna throw this out because I'm I'm eager to hear what our audience thinks about this. So one of the notes I have is that Kevin McNally, who played Orville Tudway in this, he plays Jap in the ABC murder Poirot with John Malkovich playing Poirot.
Speaker 2:Yes. He does.
Speaker 3:Which I think is a kind of controversial Poirot. Yes. Far
Speaker 2:as I'm I
Speaker 3:know it's not a Midsummer, but
Speaker 2:I wonder It rewrites Poirot's backstory.
Speaker 3:Yeah. A lot. So if this Midsummer wasn't so good, I'm curious about what people think about John Malkovich as Poirot.
Speaker 2:And Yep.
Speaker 3:About Kevin McNally as as Jap.
Speaker 2:I liked him as Jap. Not as good as Jap, the real Jap.
Speaker 3:With the David Souche Jap.
Speaker 2:Right? David Souche Jap. Yeah. That's the real Jap. But
Speaker 3:But it's it's interesting. And and we get Kevin McNally again in noble art in another midsummer in 2010. Art? I can't give you the summary of
Speaker 2:the book. Oh, know what noble art is.
Speaker 3:But I I think it's a better episode than this one. So we we get another chance
Speaker 2:to No. You've forgotten noble art. Okay. Because I think noble art's the piano teacher.
Speaker 3:We'll see.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:So Toby Jones Yep. Which who who was our coroner when George was away. Yeah. He's the son of Freddie Jones Yep. Who is also in A Midsummer.
Speaker 3:Yep. Right? So they were our first father and son who were both in Midsummer. It's not the same episodes, but different but they were both in the series.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 3:And now we've got Honeysuckle Weeks whose sister is in another episode later.
Speaker 2:What's her sister's name?
Speaker 3:I didn't write it down. Okay. I think it's like Felicity weeks. Okay. She's she's not like
Speaker 2:Rules of Sharon.
Speaker 3:Petunia or anything. No. Honeysuckle's got the got the only plant name. But her sister is in an episode later. And if you saw them next to each other, you'd say, oh, yeah.
Speaker 3:Those two are
Speaker 2:yeah. Okay, maniacs. Our Twitter handle is at mid midsummer maniacs. Our Instagram handle is at midsummer maniacs. We're all over the Facebook.
Speaker 2:We're all over the Twitters. Please keep coming back with all sorts of reviews and input. We love every last minute of it.
Speaker 3:If there's something redeeming about blood will out that you saw that we didn't see, tell us.
Speaker 2:Yes, If
Speaker 3:there's something you disliked about it as much as we did, tell us.
Speaker 2:Please. And, you know, again, just thank you so much for listening. And next week, we will have Death of a Stranger.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Season
Speaker 2:three episode one. Halfway through Troy's tenure.
Speaker 3:Booyah. Alright, maniacs. Bye, maniacs. I I thought that lady in the in the background of the the Rome what they're not they're not roamers or meanders. What do they call?
Speaker 2:Wander no. Travelers.
Speaker 3:No. The walkers. The people who like to walk. Oh, ramblers. Ramblers.
Speaker 3:Thank you. Gosh.
